Question about the OKC bombing and the latest Al Qaeda guy caught at O Hare.

06/10/02 | TMMT

[The Magical Mischief Tour]

Question about the OKC bombing and the latest Al Qaeda guy caught at O’Hare.

Can someone post a side-by-side comparison of the “Arab” John Doe sketch from the OKC bombing and the sketch released today of the Al Qaeda guy nabbed at O’Hare, please.

It may be just me but at a glance they look similar.

TMMT

[OKCSubmariner]

From reply #198 by Nancie Drew, a self identified contact for Jayna Davis:

"One of the people involved in the WTC ’93 bombing was picked up by the FBI on day two and questioned, questioned again on day three. He told them everything about the plot, where the bomb was built, who was involved including himself. He was not held, and on day four, he flew to Iraq. There is now a reward of $25 million on his head. So there was at least one other time where our government allowed a Middle Easterner involved in a terrorist act to go free."

Questions:

What is the name of the man in the above paragraph who flew to Iraq?

Where is the man now-Iraq or somewhere else?

Where did the story come from about the man who flew to Iraq, TV, print media or FBI 302's etc? How is it known that he told authorities where the bomb was built and who built it? How do we know that he told the truth ( I am not saying he did not tell the truth-I do not know)?

Abraham Ahmad, an associate of Al Huaaini (the Iraqi seen with McVeigh) and the employee of Samir Khalil, was detained, brought back to the US and questioned by the FBI during the same time sequence identified in reply #198.

[archy]

the dude's name is mohammed azmuth.

syriacus started a whole thread devoted to him: click here for "Families shattered over arrest"

Mohammed Jaweed Azmath:

Mohammed Jaweed Azmath is shown while in federal custody after being detained shortly after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, at an Amtrak station in Fort Worth, Texas. Azmath, who lived in Jersey City, N.J., was one of two men removed after authorities found what they called suspicious items in his possession.

(AP Photo/Tarrant County Sheriff's Office, File)

The one I was thinking of was this one:

Nabil Al-Marabh, 34

Status: In custody in New York

Al-Marabh, who listed addresss in Massachussetts, Illinois and Canada since 1994, was arrested Sept. 19 at a Burbank, Ill., convenience store. Al-Marabh once worked for Boston Cab Co., where an associate of suspected terror chief Osama bin Laden also worked.

Nabil Al-Marabh

The FBI linked Al-Marabh to Raed Hijazi, now jailed in Jordan on charges that he planned to blow up a hotel filled with Americans and Israelis on New Year's Day 2000.

Al-Marabh holds a commercial driver's license and is certified to transport hazardous materials. Canadian media reported that a man with the same name and age lived in Toronto in the mid-1990s and was collecting welfare while waiting word on his refugee application; it was denied. Authorities will not say why they were seeking Al-Marabh

more info *here*

[OKCSubmariner]

Correction to reply #201:

Abraham Ahmad, an associate of Al Hussaini (the Iraqi seen with McVeigh) and the employee of Samir Khalil, was detained, brought back to the US and questioned by the FBI during [roughly] the same time sequence [day one , day two day three etc}] identified in reply #198 [but different year-1995 as opposed to 1993].

[OKCSubmariner]

The person likely referred to in reply #198 was Abdul Ramhan Yasen who went to Iraq after the 1993 WTC attack, was let go by authorities and has a large reward out for him posted on the FBI web site.

[MizSterious]

Please check your freepmail. If you have none, please say so here?

[thinden]

mohammed azmath vs. JD2 vs. padilla

whadda ya think?

[MizSterious]

Good match. My opinion. (Which is under tremendous fire of late)

[carenot]

Do any of you people feel like opening up the John Wilkes Booth case again?

I've got info here that indicates a 'John Doe' was seen leaving the theater shortly after the shots were fired ...

Hey James! How y'all doin'?

Can you put in a good word for me?
I would love to be paid for reading and posting.

Tell'em I will say anything they want me to! I am easy, if the money is good.

Come on, man. Put it a good word for me!

I bet I can do better than your stupid posts.

Thanks in advance.

[thinden]

My opinion. (Which is under tremendous fire of late)

cain't be true! I haven't seen you on the board in weeks.

[flamefront]

Just so people do not get confused the FBI lists him as "Yasin" not with the 'e.'

[It'salmosttolate]

[Burkeman1]

That's real funny. Too bad that about at least two people caught up in the net of the Assissination of Lincoln who were later executed had nothing to do with his murder. And another Doctor Mudd- spent years in prison as well.

[_Jim]

There is no history of "past problems" with the center fuel tank.

... and I didn't say there was now did I ...

But -

Do you mean to say NO Boeing 747's have ever crashed by themselves?

Ever?

(C'mon - QUIT playing stupid.)

[_Jim]

IIRC the US provided a number of these to the Afghani forces when they were fighting the soviets.

... and they worked REAL WELL against slow-moving helicopters didn't they ...

[rdavis84]

Good work on the animated .gif.

[Eroteme]

When was the last time Ricks was trotted out to dismiss a John Doe speculation? As far as I know, not since the case was neatly wrapped up with McVeigh's execution. Interesting that Padilla trips the damage control meter when Azmuth didn't.

[piasa]

While I must admit Padilla looked like a dead ringer at first, now that you've posted Azmath's photo I'm not sure. Azmath looks like a better match because of the nose. Padilla is closer on the eyes, but Azmath's eyes also are in the ballpark. I'd be interested in hearing if in the desriptions people were particular about the nose in the description or if the artist was just lousy at noses. I think the former since it looks like the photo was made up from letting people pick and assemble predrawn face parts. If the nose of the person seen was what people remembered most, then I'd go with Azmath being the one.

Of course, I wonder if Padilla's ever had surgery- alot of al Qeada's guys have, though maybe not low level players. For a gang-banger he has an incredibly straight nose. Usually anyone with even a minor dustup or two in the past has an off-center nose or one with a crook in it from being broken. For that matter, how many of al-qeada's people just brought along for 'muscle' have straight noses? The ones I've seen in the mugshots looked rather rough. This guy is awfully free of scarring or scuffing to just be 'muscle.'

Has anyone got a side view photo of Azmuth to compare with the OKC drawing with the baseball hat? I don't think Azmath fits the side view drawing others have posted. His face is too long and the nose I don't think would be a match for the drawing. But then, I don't think the two OKC drawings, the front and side view, really look like the same guy in the first place.

[honway]

whadda ya think?

The only thing I am certain of is that John Doe II will never be arrested and charged with a crime of any kind. So anyone arrested and charged by the federal government for anything should be eliminated from the JD2 list of possibilities, IMHO.

[honway]

All those that provided cover for the Middle Eastern terrorist network role in the bombing of the Murrah Building are accomplices in their later work on 9-11. This includes you.

[Robert Lomax]

Yep, Bunting is a dead ringer for John Doe #2. /sarcasm