A New Round of Anger and Humiliation: Islam after 9/11

Stanford: Hoover Institution Press, 2002, pp. 41-61. ^ | 10 jun 02 | Daniel Pipes

[white trash redneck]

Great article on how the Islamofascists didn't realize what a hornets' nest they were poking on 9/11, and how it will come back to destroy them.

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[DoctorMichael]

Bump for later reading.

[pabianice]

Islamo-apologistic crap. Sounds like a speech Al Gore wrote. Utterly irrelevant. When enough Americans have been murdered by these savages, we will destroy them. The pity is that more thousands of Americans have to die first.

[ppaul]

To be Muslim meant to be on the winning team.

Hardly.
It's a one-way ticket to hell.

[white trash redneck]

How do you read this:

The implication is clear: There is no substitute for victory. If the U.S. government wishes to weaken its strategic enemy, militant Islam, it must take two steps. First, continue the war on terror globally, using appropriate means, starting with Afghanistan but going on to wherever militant Islam poses a threat, in Muslim-majority countries (such as Saudi Arabia), in Muslim-minority countries (such as the Philippines), and even in the United States itself. As this effort brings success, secondly Washington should promote moderate Muslims. Not only will they represent a wholesome change from the totalitarianism of militant Islam but they, and they alone, can address the trauma of Islam and propose ideas that will ease the way for one sixth of humanity fully to modernize.

as "Islamo-apologist crap"? Pipes has always been a hard liner in the Mideast.

[Maceman]

Wake up Ping

[Gorzaloon]

More broadly, to understand the impact of September 11 on the Muslim world requires putting aside the response in the West and immersing oneself in Muslim sensibilities...

I "understand" the impact, allright, and I do it just fine without the touchy-feely New Age BS.

I am as "Immersed" as I need to be....Now.

I was always receptive to other points of view, but as of September 11, 2001, I do not wish to hear one thing from a (deleted) murder cult, except "Goodbye".

As if they have even SEEN a "Response from the West" yet!

[Ciexyz]

Very informative article. We can applaud President Bush for pursuing his policy of hammering at pockets of militant Islam while promoting ties with moderate Arab leaders.

[Maceman]

Not knowing the nature of democracy – slow to be aroused but relentless when angered

It's not the nature of democracy (France is a democracy)-- it's the nature of AMERICA!!!!

[adx]

Not only will they represent a wholesome change from the totalitarianism of militant Islam but they, and they alone, can address the trauma of Islam and propose ideas that will ease the way for one sixth of humanity fully to modernize.

Hmmm......sounds like wishful thinking to me.

[mondonico]

Islamo-apologistic crap.

Read the whole article.

[SauronOfMordor]

The major vulnerability of Islam is its fatalistic viewpoint on events happening because it's "the will of Allah". When things go seriously wrong, the obvious reason is that Allah has turned against their cause

[Poohbah]

That isn't touchy-feely New AGe BS, it's knowing your enemy.

"Know yourself and know your enemy, and in a hundred battles you will never be in peril." Sun Tzu, The Art of War

[Britton J Wingfield]

How could bin Laden and his colleagues know that their acts would lead to a rousing call to arms? Why should 240 deaths in a Beirut barracks lead to no retaliation and just over three thousand deaths on the east coast mobilize the country in a way not seen since Pearl Harbor? One can hardly fault them for not having foreseen this shift. It has something to do with the mysterious forces of democracy and public opinion, about which they are highly ignorant.

Yup, they provoked the "American Street."

Bad move. They should have consulted Yamamoto.

"In the first six to twelve months of a war with the United States and Great Britain I will run wild and win victory upon victory. But then, if the war continues after that, I have no expectation of success."

Great post. Bookmarked, and probably emailed to everyone I know :)

[Savage Beast]

"the Muslim world had experienced more than eighty years of 'humiliation and disgrace' at American hands, during which its sons were killed and its sanctities defiled."

Wrong!

the Muslim world had experienced more than eighty years of 'humiliation and disgrace', during which its sons were killed and its sanctities defiled, and the Muslims themselves are to blame. No one else.

The sooner Muslims realize that they are responsible for their own destiny--for their own humiliation and disgrace--for the death of their sons and the defiling of their sanctities--for their poverty and backwardness--the better off they're going to be.

And the September 11 massacre, the dancing in the streets afterward, the Muslim terrorism have defiled Islam even further--have brought nothing but disgrace to Islam and Muslims--have been a profound humiliation to them before history and all the world.

Muslims can thank themselves.

"...a sense of failure has suffused Muslim life. If Islam brings God’s grace, many Muslims have asked themselves, why then do Muslims fare so poorly? "

Because Islam does not bring God's grace. The best thing for these benighted people to do is to repudiate Islam and convert to Christianity.

"Despite extensive soul-searching, Muslims have not yet found an answer to the question 'what went wrong?"

That's easy. They worshipped a false "idol" insead of God. They accepted a phoney "religion". Their entire commitment was to baloney. They need to convert.

"They have bounced from one scheme to another, finding satisfaction in none of them."

They're trying everything except the one thing that is the answer: Abandon Islam. Convert to Christianity.

"Islamists see the United States as an aggressive force that seeks to steal Muslims’ resources,"

No.

" exploit their labor,"

No.

" and undermine their religion. "

Yes. A worthy goal.

All the problems that plague the unfortunate souls can be solved by their conversion to Christianity.

Islam is the problem. They are worshipping a false "idol". Whether they know it or not--and on some level they probably do--they have been worshipping Satan--not God.

They need to turn to God--not Satan.

God will help them. He is the answer.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

Ironically, the same strengthening of resolve could be seen even in the United States itself; after monitoring the Holy Land Foundation, an Islamic "charitable" foundation, since 1993, the federal authorities only closed it down in December 2001 when it felt the confidence that came from its own successful military campaign.

Strange, isn't it, that this change of heart came at the same time the regime changed from Clinton to Bush? This happened because Bush is a man of principle, not an empty moral and ethical suit like Clinton, and not from gaining confidence from a successful military campaign. The successful military campaign resulted from the same man's resolve.

[laredo44]

Despite extensive soul-searching, Muslims have not yet found an answer to the question "what went wrong?" Instead, they have bounced from one scheme to another, finding satisfaction in none of them. A succession of false starts have left Muslims deeply perplexed about their predicament, and not a little frustrated. In all, Muslims sense their own conspicuous lack of success in emerging from the humiliation of their current circumstances.

And so, militant Islamists prove to be an immature group flashing juvenile tempers and fashioning impotent responses when faced with adult challenges. Their main problem is that as the world moved to from tyranny to the liberty of a republic, they remained, and still remain focused on an afterlife continuing to subject themselves to the will of those claiming to control access to that afterlife.

The latter half of the second millenium has shown that tyrannies are no match for republics, although they can cause a great deal of damage when left unchecked. Muslims will find their lives much more rewarding and the world a whole lot more friendly and understanding once they ditch their overlords.

[Gorzaloon]

That isn't touchy-feely New AGe BS, it's knowing your enemy.

True. To know is good. To sympathize, however..... :-)

There was a tone of "Compassionate understanding" beneath the surface that put me off.

[Dan Day]

Islamo-apologistic crap. Sounds like a speech Al Gore wrote.

You clearly didn't read the whole article. Please do so.