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Radical Islamists Honored at University of Wisconsin Christians Dismissed from Staff
Holy Bible, Koran | 6/8/02 | M. Curtiss MD

Posted on 06/08/2002 7:03:11 AM PDT by Love of Country

On January 10th, I received a registered letter from John Fry MD Dean of the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine. My contract at Wausau Family Practice was not to be renewed. My offense, I asked several questions of radical Islamists during a required lecture at the previous week. Lecture topics are always of a medically revelant nature; trauma, podiatry, fracture treatment etc,, However, our program director Kevin O'Connell allowed two new islamist interns two and a half hours of required lecture time to preach islam.

One of the muslims actually sang his prayers. He then went on to discribe "the Pillars of Islam" after two plus hours of this several people began get uncomfortable with the lecterers calls for jihad and militancy toward the United States. All my questions were theologic in nature. I was hoping to display for the audience the plagerism mohammed practiced in writing the koran by quoting the Holy Bible when relavant. At no time was any member of the audience disrespectful.

At the end of the talk the muslims true nature showed itself as raw paranoia. He said that soon all muslims would be interred "I've seen the pictures of prisons on the internet" He admitted tithing to Global Benevolence Foundation, sending money to the families of suicide bombers. "I know Mr. Haddad, he's being held prisoner"

I was content to dust off my feet and move on. I interviewed and was offered a position at Michigan State. Somehow word of my new position got back to the people at University of Wisconsin. They called up my new employer. I was informed that Michigan state no longer had a position for me. My wife cried for hours.

Another Christian physician was also told his position was closed. His offense like mine was to ask an innocuous question.


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101 posted on 06/08/2002 3:56:51 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: jwalsh07
A Jew is an adherent of Judaism and a Zionist is an adherent of Zionism but a Zionist need not be a Jew. However, what has that to do with my post that the correct word is Muslim for a person who is an adherent of Islam, not islamist. There is no such thing as a radical islamist but there are radical Muslims.

Sometimes people use the language incorrectly. For example, suggesting that the female counter-part to gentleman is gentlewoman is incorrect. The counter-part to gentleman is lady. It is not me you disagree with, it is the language you are disagreeing with.

102 posted on 06/08/2002 3:57:01 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: dagoofyfoot
DECLARE WAR ON ISLAM NOW!

With this kind of BS going on at home, the war on terrorism somehow seems too far away!

103 posted on 06/08/2002 4:01:13 PM PDT by mikeIII
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To: MosesKnows
I don't think you are getting the point Moses! maybe you need another 40 years of wandering to understand.Nez Pas
104 posted on 06/08/2002 4:03:02 PM PDT by Love of Country
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To: MosesKnows
Islamism

Perhaps you can lecture the author of this encyclopedia on the use and misuse of the English lnguage. I don't really need your help.

By the way substitute Muslim and Islamist in your sentence for Jew and Zionist and see what you come up with.

105 posted on 06/08/2002 4:16:45 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Love of Country
Any ideas on attorneys or conservative legal firepower? Someone want to e-mail O'Reilly, Rush etc,,,, thanks in advance.

Do you want restitution of your job and money incompensation or do you want to be a "cause." Seems likely if you go after some legal think tank you may never work again but you will generate great plenty of headlines for them. Think through what you want you want and who is benefiting from any suit filed.

106 posted on 06/08/2002 5:01:13 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: MosesKnows
There is no such thing as an islamist. A person who follows the religion and practices of Islam is a Muslim, not a islamist.

Tell that to the arab guest on Lou Dobbs MOneyline last night. He and Dobbs were both using the term Islamists as in radical or militant Islamists to represent a small portion of the Muslim population.

107 posted on 06/08/2002 5:04:09 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: MosesKnows; jwalsh07
There is no such thing as an islamist. A person who follows the religion and practices of Islam is a Muslim, not a islamist.....Post #53 by MosesKnows

A Jew is an adherent of Judaism and a Zionist is an adherent of Zionism but a Zionist need not be a Jew. However, what has that to do with my post that the correct word is Muslim for a person who is an adherent of Islam, not islamist. There is no such thing as a radical islamist but there are radical Muslims.....Post #102 by MosesKnows

There are "Islamists" and the term is widely used in the literature of international affairs.

The term "Islamist" does not merely mean an individual who practices the religion of Islam. The term "Islamist" is reserved for those individuals who seek to use Islam as a political force. The Islamist's goal is the imposition of Islam upon Government and society.

Let's take, for example, Turkey. Although Turkey is a Muslim country, it's Government is secular. There is a "separation of Church and State" in Turkey between the Islamic religion and the Turkish Government. The President of Turkey is a Muslim but he is not an "Islamist".

Those individuals in Turkey that wish to replace the secular Turkish system of Government with an Islamic theocratic form of Government such as that found in Iran or in Afghanistan during the Taliban rule are "Islamists".

Those Islamists that do not merely express their opinions about their desire to establish an Islamic theocratic form of Government but cross the line and engage in violence to secure their political aims are "radical Islamists".

THE RISE OF THE ISLAMIST MOVEMENT IN TURKEY:
Middle East Review of International Affairs, Volume 3, No. 3 September 1999

Algeria's Islamist Revolution: The People Versus Democracy?
Middle East Policy Council Journal, Volume V, January 1998, Number 4

108 posted on 06/08/2002 6:57:18 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Love of Country
I have gotten two degrees from UW. A BSEE in 1970 and an MBA in 1977. I also fought three riots as a National Guardsman in 1968-1970. It is sad to see my alma mater degenerate into the spawning ground for politicial correctness and the last bastion of radical communism.

There will be a day of reckenning on the ismus between Lake Mendota and Lake Monona. Some day, the scum shall be flushed from this campus.

109 posted on 06/08/2002 7:17:50 PM PDT by Redleg Duke
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To: Love of Country; all
Saturday night bump!

We need to keep this thread alive through the weekend. FReepers who are fired for exercising their first amendment rights deserve no less....

110 posted on 06/08/2002 7:36:11 PM PDT by Humidston
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To: Steve Eisenberg; floriduh voter
Hey, people, there's also state law. Even if the professor here cannot prove a violation of federal law, through discrimination or the like, there still may be an action for wrongful termination under state law. In those states where employment is at will, those actions are hard for employees to bring. But I suspect Wisconsin has more liberal law.
111 posted on 06/08/2002 8:02:14 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Please see #111 re: wrongful termination. We're discussing federal laws and were wondering about state laws?
112 posted on 06/08/2002 8:36:04 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: dheretic
Did you read the article at the top of this thread? "several people began get uncomfortable with the lecterers calls for jihad and militancy toward the United States"

It doesn't sound like the foreigners like the US as much as you think. The Middle Eastern foreigners don't tend to join in pro-American demonstrations much on campus, even back in Carter's presidency, middle-easterners from Iran were famous for burning the US flag in their anti-American demonstrations here on US campuses.

113 posted on 06/08/2002 9:10:46 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: MosesKnows
Sometimes people use the language incorrectly.

It seems to me that you might be technically correct but sometimes things change enough and new words have to get made or put into place. There might be enough Muslims ---like the Turks who aren't all that intent on putting us all under the Koran's laws and there might need to be a distinction made between the more benign kinds of Muslims and the types that are doing a lot of damage to the world right now.

114 posted on 06/08/2002 9:14:18 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Love of Country
At the end of the talk the muslims true nature showed itself as raw paranoia. He said that soon all muslims would be interred "

Let's hope so.

115 posted on 06/08/2002 9:14:41 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: mhking
Bumping Post #10, especially. Freep away, all...
116 posted on 06/08/2002 9:31:38 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Love of Country
Dr. Curtiss -- I've just sent you a FreepMail....
117 posted on 06/08/2002 9:34:13 PM PDT by Theo
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To: semper_libertas
...would you or somebody else elaborate at length what's all about this all so dreaded "CFR", please, and along the way point the USofA position on this issue??????

This is NOT a sarcastic posting, but a real one. Please comment.....

118 posted on 06/08/2002 9:48:49 PM PDT by danmar
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To: VOA; adakotab;
Like you, VOA, I work in academia, and know first hand of the incredible intolerance that lurks behind the "liberal" facade. Your account of the aggresive response to your points on the middle-east conflict does not surprise me. Sorry to hear that you have to communicate with dolts.

But I am surprised by some elements of this story, as reported, and so I doubt its veracity. For one thing, the job offer that was withdrawn after they spoke to the previous University. Most unlikely. Not unlikely that he would be shafted by his previous employer, but rather, that the call was made AFTER they offered him a job. That is not how it is done. They would check references prior to making the offer.

119 posted on 06/08/2002 10:33:33 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: Love of Country
I agree with Blennos. They need to be slapped with a lawsuit!
120 posted on 06/08/2002 10:48:48 PM PDT by brat
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