Why Islam Hates Democracy

FrontPage Magazine ^ | 6.6.02 | Jamie Glazov

[=Intervention=]

No. Rather, in the West, the truth is thought to be so important and so powerful, that the laws of man shall not prohibit nor interfere with it. That's what's behind our First Amendment and the lack of a theocracy in the U.S. Indeed, all of Western civ has gone that route since the last gasp of the Byzantine Empire in the 1400's...the last successful empire based upon church and state unity, IMHO.

[=Intervention=]

You're right in that you missed his point entirely. Did you think Hamilton and Jefferson, by so advocating a state that would not dictate to men's souls (and thereby rob them of the freedom granted by God after the fall of man) were somehow advocating secularistic belief? Not hardly. Or do you claim that some forms of government are "divine" and others are "secular?" This seems almost as silly as saying rock music being made by Christians then becomes "Christian rock." No, it is still rock music, for that is the form. The spirit, the content, the lyrics, the effects, are the true distinction, not the form.

[ppaul]

I think it's capitalism, not democracy, that they hate. Just like the damn socialists.

Actually, you are close.

For years, the Soviet Union funneled millions of dollars of arms and aid to various radical Islamic groups and regimes ("useful idiots") in its drive to foster worldwide terrorism on the road to world communist domination. In fact, if it wasn't for all that Soviet aid that went to these groups and regimes, there would probably not be problems with these groups anywhere near the scale of today. Yassir Arafat and his PLO was a major beneficiary of much of this aid (he is purported to have billions collecting interest in Swiss bank accounts), and if you study the history of Arafat and his murderous brigades, you will find that Arafat himself was never a fundamentalist Muslim, but a revolutionary Marxist. He merely utilized the underlying class hatreds to rally the fanatical Muslims under his terrorist umbrella. If you look at the photos of the intifada, you will see numerous red "hammer & sickle" flags side by side with "Palestinian" flags and green banners of Allah.

[ppaul]

This is in sharp contrast with the older European tradition of Kings ruling based on the will of God.

The Magna Carta and the Protestant Reformation changed all that. The roots of our nation's freedoms, steeped in the fundamental tenets of Christianity, are the underlying basis of our liberties. That is why the Aamerican War for Independence was not the "secularist" bloodbath like the French revolution.

[Constitutions Grandchild]

Thank you. It is always important to correct revisionist history. My ancestors did love God and carry his Word in their hearts. They made sure those of us who followed knew Him, too. He has loved this nation because His true nation loved Him and made sure His law was the "rule of law." A lot of new-comers (those after 1776) have made light of those of us who began it all, but I truly believe a part of my ancestors views what is happening now through my eyes, and they made sure I'd recognize evil when I saw it.

[Constitutions Grandchild]

While they were fairly enlightened in their time, they never envisioned a country devoid of a moral compass. We were all just conceited enough to think nobody would want to live any other way but by self-determination, hard work and a respect for the Almighty. We just didn't want anybody shoving any particular rules about how we showed our respect to the Almighty down our throats. We "assumed" rightly or wrongly that folks could make up their own minds. In the meantime,they were not averse to making a buck. Everytime another heathen moved into the neighborhood, we just moved west a little further. Problem is, we're running out of space to hole up.

[Aquinasfan]

Islam cannot reform and still remain Islam.

That's it in a nutshell. Few people seem to understand this because most journalists don't understand this.

Little has changed since this was written for the 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia:

In matters political Islam is a system of despotism at home and aggression abroad. The Prophet commanded absolute submission to the imâm. In no case was the sword to be raised against him. The rights of non-Moslem subjects are of the vaguest and most limited kind, and a religious war is a sacred duty whenever there is a chance of success against the "Infidel". Medieval and modern Mohammedan, especially Turkish, persecutions of both Jews and Christians are perhaps the best illustration of this fanatical religious and political spirit.

[knighthawk]

Ping

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

[weikel]

I hate both Islam and democracy mob rule.

[Calvin Locke]

"We had to kill him, because he attacked our beliefs."

"Life of Brian" anyone?

Brian: "I am not the Messiah!"
Bannerchaser: "The true Messiah denies his divinity."
Brian: "What!? What chance does that give me?"

And the beat goes on...

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Part of it is just pure jealousy. Jealous of our wealth, and scared of out FREEDOMS!!

[AmericanCheeseFood]

Good find.

...and thanks for the headsup knight!

[Madame Dufarge]

And it is no mystery why the worlds of competition and commerce have spawned economic success stories in places like Japan

There seem to be great similarities between Japan prior to and during WWII and present Muslim attitudes.

The Western nations realized the importance of secularization of Japan (the emperor's denouncement of his divine nature in 1946.).

Political Correctness run amok seems to be depriving the Western nations of the ability to make a common sense judgment that was patently obvious 57 years ago. It's the religion, stupid.

Japan's Rightist military ruling elite saw their nation as a harmonious family under a divine father, the emperor. They saw Japan as spiritual and the one divine nation on earth, which helped serve as a rationale for domination of others. The destiny of Japan, they believed, had been outlined by the gods and nothing could stop Japan from becoming the greatest empire on earth. In contrast, they believed, the Koreans were eaten by vices, the Chinese were corrupted by opium and other narcotics, and their old enemy the Russians were corrupted by their vodka. These were men from an agricultural and military tradition, and they saw the capitalist West as materialistic, egoistic and founded on exploitation and personal profit. Some Rightists in Japan were using the old notion that war was basically the work of greedy men in search of profits. This and the spiritual superiority of the Japanese was expressed by the poet Takamura Kotaro just after the attack on Pearl Harbor:

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[America's Resolve]

Nope. They're allowed to steal and use technology, they just aren't allowed to develop it on their own. They were great thieves of other peoples learning for most of the life of their empire.

"Slay the infidel and plunder his wealth!"

All of islam in one evil line. The mission and the reward.

Godspeed

[cicero's_son]

Plato "hated" Democracy.

Somehow, the West managed to survive him.

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