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Scientific Boehner: The new creationism and the congressmen who support it.
The American Prospect ^ | June 5, 2002 | Iain Murray

Posted on 06/05/2002 6:55:45 PM PDT by Gladwin

Two Republican congressmen are playing fast and loose with accepted definitions by suggesting that their home state should alter its science curriculum to include references to the so-called intelligent-design (ID) theory. Representatives John Boehner and Steve Chabot of Ohio want the curriculum amended to include the language, "Where topics are taught that may generate controversy (such as biological evolution), the curriculum should help students to understand the full range of scientific views that exist."

This might seem unobjectionable, except that most observers agree that the language is being used as a Trojan horse for a theory that is decidedly unscientific. ID argues that the complex nature of life and the universe provide evidence of an organizing intelligence. This is an old notion: The ancients marveled at "the harmony of the spheres," while the early-nineteenth century theologian William Paley likened God to a watchmaker (something as complex as a watch could never have occurred naturally, and so the same must be true of living things).

Intelligent design does have a thing or two going for it. Superficially, at least, it tries to address the concerns of science, being a more sophisticated and less airy attempt than the watchmaker theory at reconciling the human need for divinity with evidence.

ID is not, however, true science. According to the eminent modern philosopher Karl Popper, the defining characteristic of science is that its assertions are falsifiable. In other words, if we have no means to prove a theory wrong -- by experiment, observation, and the like -- then it is not scientific. And theories that cannot be falsified simply have no place in science books or classrooms. (Thankfully, most things to do with nature and the various physical laws can be tested, so our science curricula have plenty of material.)

Some elements of intelligent design can indeed be tested, such as the doctrine of irreducible complexity. This is the contention that complex biological entities cannot have arisen by chance because removing just one element in them often causes them to cease to function. Thus the Catholic biochemist Michael Behe, an ID theorist and author of Darwin's Black Box, has argued that certain biochemical systems within our cells are like a mousetrap: Take away any part of the trap -- the base, the spring -- and it stops catching mice. Therefore, Behe's argument goes, just as a mousetrap was consciously designed (by humans) to trap mice, so these molecular systems must have been designed for the role they play.

This is a false conclusion, however. Most traits of living things that arise by natural selection are advantageous but not essential -- or at least not at first. However, successive traits can then develop that are especially advantageous in combination with a previous trait, in the end making one or both of them essential. An example might be the air-breathing advantage of lungs. At first, this would have benefited an amphibious creature whose habitat was extended by the ability to stray from water onto dry land. But when paired with the extra mobility gained from legs evolved for walking, lungs might have become essential in order to allow the evolving organism to fully thrive in a land habitat. (Another quintessential example, of course, is the eye, an immensely complex organ that nevertheless obviously evolved in stages.)

Intelligent Design theorists such as Behe have attempted to include empirical examples in order to bolster their case. In the end, however, the underlying basis of the theory -- the proposition that a designing intelligence deliberately assembles complex living things -- remains unfalsifiable. We can certainly demonstrate how it is that natural selection can produce very complex organs such as the eye, and thereby falsify one tenet of the theory. But the overarching proposition, of a pre-existing intelligence, cannot be put to any scientific test.

That's why the National Academy of Sciences stated quite categorically that "intelligent design … [is] not science because [it is] not testable by the methods of science" in its definitive 1999 investigation, Science and Creationism: A view from the National Academy of Sciences. No amount of dressing the issue up in scientific terms can circumvent this problem. Until the "scientific creationists" come up with a theory that can be submitted, in its entirety, to scientific tests, they must recognize that what they are proposing to teach in schools is religious faith, not science.

And ID fails the test even using an alternative, non-Popperian view of the way the scientific method operates. In his influential book The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, Thomas Kuhn argued that science is ruled by paradigms, worldviews that fit the available knowledge and according to which scientists operate. But intelligent design is not part of any current scientific paradigm, and besides a few fringe elements, no serious evolutionary biologists accept it. Moreover, it is hard to call ID an emerging scientific paradigm when its leading proponent is a University of California, Berkeley law professor, Phillip E. Johnson, who is not a scientist at all.

The only scientific theory of life's origins thus far is the theory of evolution. ID may have a genuine role to play in the classrooms of philosophers or comparative theologians, but it certainly does not belong in the science lab. If creationists want to have their views taught, they must first meet the biggest challenge in history: proving the existence of God.


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To: Tomalak
"I hope these Congressmen will also ensure equal time for the Stork theory in biology classes."

Belittle, demonize and marginalize. You guys are good, but not good enough.

21 posted on 06/05/2002 8:22:06 PM PDT by Washington_minuteman
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To: Washington_minuteman
"It’s remarkable that the same liberals who think business monopolies are sinister think... monopolies---of political power are progressive. When they can’t pass their programs because of the constitutional safeguards, they complain about “gridlock” — a cliché that shows they miss the whole point of the enumeration and separation of powers."
22 posted on 06/05/2002 8:26:01 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Raymond Hendrix
The page you linked to is useless. An excellent system for judging Creationist literature's scientific credentials is to search for words like "chance", "random" etc. If the writer states anywhere that evolution is a theory of blind chance, or that something cannot have evolved by random means, then he doesn't understand evolution.

Anyway, let's just take two paragraphs from that long page:

Dawkins goes on to explain how with the help of natural selection it is possible for this random jumble of letters to form into the “target” phrase of “Me thinks it is a weasel.” The assumption of course in natural selection is that the evolving system builds on minor improvements one step at a time until a complicated organism comes into being and that organism eventually evolves into a human being. He explains how with the aid of his computer program the jumble of letters eventually “evolves” into the target phrase with minor changes and improvements made one step at a time. After his program has run for a while he comes up with this improvement for instance: “MELDINLS IT ISWLKE B WECSEL”. As you can see that is a definite improvement. Finally the phrase is perfectly evolved into the target sentence. Now can anyone see one flaw here before I go on?

The flaw of course is the “target phrase”. Anyway, who decided what that target was? Whose intelligent intervention decided that was a worthy goal? Natural selection as Dawkins’ clearly and correctly explains elsewhere does not have knowledge of the future and it cannot direct itself with a mind. There is no hidden intelligence involved in natural selection. It is a “blind watchmaker” as he calls it. It does not know what a “target phrase” is.

The `target phrase` is chosen not by a designer, but by natural selection. In other words, just as the closest phrase in Dawkins' simulation survives each time, the best adapted creature in nature survives each time. The target phrase is whatever unlikely organ you would like to postulate. The better adapted organs survive in nature better than the less adapted organs. If the author can misunderstand (or pretend to misunderstand) a very lucid explanation like that, he isn't worth reading.

23 posted on 06/05/2002 8:26:03 PM PDT by Tomalak
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To: Tomalak
So the people who mean to do without the Constitution have come up with a slogan to keep up appearances: they say the Constitution is a “living document,” which sounds like a compliment. They say it has... “evolved”---in response to---“changing circumstances,” etc. They sneer at the idea that such a mystic document could still have the same meanings it had two centuries ago, or even, I guess, sixty years ago, just before the evolutionary process started accelerating with fantastic velocity. These people, who tend with suspicious consistency to be liberals, have discovered that the Constitution, whatever it may have meant in the past, now means — again, with suspicious consistency — whatever suits their present convenience."

"changing circumstances,” etc.

"whatever suits their present convenience."

24 posted on 06/05/2002 8:28:32 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Washington_minuteman
I posted that out of fairness, although I personally find it unconvincing.
25 posted on 06/05/2002 8:32:29 PM PDT by Gladwin
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To: f.Christian
I am not sure what point you are trying to make. If you are suggesting that accepting that in nature life evolved means you have to accept whatever some wacko says the US Constitution should change into, then obviously this is nonsense. Evolution has no moral message. Just because in nature the fittest survive does not mean we should starve unfit humans. Just because male mice abort the babies of females who have already copulated does not mean we should kill the unborn. Why so many people seem to think that someone who argues that something did happen is also arguing that it *should* happen, I have never understood.
26 posted on 06/05/2002 8:34:43 PM PDT by Tomalak
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To: Tomalak
If the writer states anywhere that ... something cannot have evolved by random means, then he doesn't understand evolution

This is a proposition which, in principle, is testable. One of the resources with which a putative evolutionary biogenetic process must work is time, and the upper bound in the case of our universe and Earth is generally agreed upon. If life on earth turns out to be such a construct that to produce it by "evolution" would need many orders of magnitude more time than this, well biogenesis starts to look an awful lot like it needs more than "evolution" to happen.

27 posted on 06/05/2002 8:43:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Washington_minuteman
Belittle, demonize and marginalize. You guys are good, but not good enough.

Well the Stork theory of reproduction has as much scientific evidence as the Genesis theory of Creation. I say that if one is allowed in the classroom the other should be too.

28 posted on 06/05/2002 8:44:11 PM PDT by Tomalak
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To: Tomalak
I've been told by the evo cult nazis on the FR that computers and cars---all science too...are all from evolution?
29 posted on 06/05/2002 8:44:15 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
This is true. The problem is that science hasn't evolved to the point of real intelligence yet LOL.
30 posted on 06/05/2002 8:47:18 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
My point was that evolution is not a theory of complex life coming into existence by randomness or chance. Anyone who claims otherwise is either a liar or is ignorant of evolution. And why listen to the evolutionary speaking of a man who is either lying about what he is talking about or doesn't know what he is talking about?
31 posted on 06/05/2002 8:47:46 PM PDT by Tomalak
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To: Tomalak
You know what, you are absolutly right, it is a discrace that in America that even though there are thousands of books that document that human reporduction is accomplished with the assistance of the nobel stork out children can't learn the truth about human reproduction

I am disgusted, sexual intercorse obcessed heatens have banished the stork from American schools.

Thanks for the idea man, next time the creationist clymers show up at the parent council meetings at my daughters school I am going to demand equal time for "Stork Theroy"

32 posted on 06/05/2002 8:47:54 PM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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To: Gladwin
"I posted that out of fairness, although I personally find it unconvincing."

I was refering to the commentary on Raymond Hendrix's link as deserving the hurrah. If you're an evolutionist, you are one of the most unbiased and objective evolutionists I've ever run into, which is refreshing, to say the least.

33 posted on 06/05/2002 8:48:45 PM PDT by Washington_minuteman
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To: Tomalak
Once your mind goes ego-plastic-evolution...

the whole world---country---society morphs into this african bee colony---empire!

What's left---allowed(atheism)---forbidden(creation)?

34 posted on 06/05/2002 8:49:45 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If life on earth turns out to be such a construct that to produce it by "evolution"

(and no help from outside the known physical order... this is what critics of evolution generally mean by "random")

would need many orders of magnitude more time than this, well biogenesis starts to look an awful lot like it needs more than "evolution" to happen.

35 posted on 06/05/2002 8:49:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: NetValue
(PING)
36 posted on 06/05/2002 8:50:16 PM PDT by Woodstock
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To: Tomalak
"Well the Stork theory of reproduction has as much scientific evidence as the Genesis theory of Creation."

I guess it all hinges on one's definition of scientific. Doesn't it?

37 posted on 06/05/2002 8:50:32 PM PDT by Washington_minuteman
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To: f.Christian
Well I speak only for myself, and not all Evo Cult Nazis here, but methods of transportation, and scientific knowledge and so on evolved in the sense that as time went on they got better. I still don't see how this relates to whether life evolved or was created in six days fifty centuries ago.
38 posted on 06/05/2002 8:50:33 PM PDT by Tomalak
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To: Gladwin
The materialists are running scared.

They far exceed Pope Urban VIII in the ferocity of their resistance to new ideas.

39 posted on 06/05/2002 8:50:53 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Yeah...before Darwin the world didn't exist---wasn't even born for these quacks--whacks!
40 posted on 06/05/2002 8:52:46 PM PDT by f.Christian
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