FIRST REPORT: ISRAELI GUNSHIPS, TANKS HITTING JENIN

GAMLA: News and Views from Israel ^ | June 5, 2002 | GAMLA: News and Views from Israel

[Challenge]

[Diddle E. Squat]

Actually I just watched several minutes of coverage by FNC. But you're right, I flipped to CNN and MSNBC after seeing your post(about 3 minutes past the hour), MiSrepresentNBC was back onto homeland issues, CNN blathering about the Westerfield case(perhaps a much more direct threat to CNN news people, given their 'morals' and proclivities).

FNC did give a good sense of the horror of the scene, with stark images of the charred bus frame, volunteers sifting through ashes looking for body parts(so all victims are buried properly within Jewish customs), and explanation that the bus was blown up in front of a prison holding Palestinian terrorists.

I say(with no sarcasm) pulll out the jailers and blow up the jail.

[sheik yerbouty]

If the jihadist Arabs said "The Sky is blue", it would be wise to first see for yourself rather than believe them, as they are liars on a Clintonesque scale.

[sheik yerbouty]

One wonders how Powell made it to the top of The Joint Chiefs. If Bush the Elder didn't fall for Powell's bad advice re: Iraq and Saddam Hussein.

[CCTeen]

On FOX news they had to do "both sides" and so they had a Arab spokes"person" who was blathering the typical whining excuse about Israeli "settlements" as the root cause of the problem. He implied that Israel is still building their settlements in "palestinian" areas, and that's why these bombings continue. I know when Sharon first came into power, they did put up a lot of settlements, but I was under the impression that this building has stopped and many settlements have been turned over. What's the current status of the settlement situation ?? (I don't trust either pro-Arab or pro-Israeli sites to be entirely truthful)

It struck me as absolutely absurd that this bombing was supposedly in "memory" of the 1967 "war" against the "palestinian" people...didn't the Arabs (Egypt and Jordan ??) start this war and Israel was forced to defend herself and consequently whipped the Arabs' butts, which is what led to the whole "palestinian" refugee "camp" situation ? Weren't these "displaced palestinians" actually told to leave in '67 by their own fellow Arabs, and promised the "spoils of war" after Israel was driven into the sea ?? Umm...turns out they were a little over-confident and lost the war(that they started), so why do they have any "right" to the lands they now claim -- and why does the UN and the rest of the world back this claim as valid?

[onedoug]

More wastes of time and resources for more of the same?

[ez2muz]

Well said.

Doesn't seem too hard to do.

The Red Cross is a nice touch too.

[Diddle E. Squat]

Yep, the PA lies like the Clinton administration: nonstop.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

There's got to be someone around to collect the checks from Saddam and the Saudis.

Israel's policy towards the families of these vermin should be, every six months, to bulldoze their house, then to confiscate all of their property, place it in the street, and burn it. Do this every six months in perpetuity.

[Tauzero]

The American public has a short attention span. And it is hard in general to sustain a high level of outrage.

One benefit of frequent attacks, from the Palestinian point of view, is to numb the population of Israel's chief ally.

[TheBattman]

Has anyone noticed - not even the Pali's "allies" want them....

There is so much un-used land in most of the Arab countries surrounding Israel that could be used to give the Palis a home, yet none of those countries want them.

The reason the Arab Muslim countries support the Palis is so they can be rid of them, and at the same time, use them as pawns in their own chess game of hatred against Israel.

[monkeyshine]

There have been several attacks in the last week or so, and Israel did not respond. Their lack of respose was a show of good faith, to allow Arafat room to maneuver, to prove that Israel would give him a chance to cooperate.

Not that I (or they, in all likelihood) thought he would lift a finger to prevent terrorism, but the west put pressure on Israel to let Arafat prove (again!) that he would reform himself and his government.

Now, finally, the cat may be out of the bag, the tiger is out of the cage, the box has been opened, the rubicon has been crossed. Run these depraved savage murderous beasts off the land for good.

[ohioman]

You sir are exactly right. The pali's are there to do the fighting for the rest of the Islamo-nazi regimes, because all of these countries know that in a conventional war Israel would turn their countries into a nice shiny clump of glass.

[tracer]

The message is "Take the bus -- and leave the driving to Allah"......

[Redbob]

Martyrdom for the cowardly sack of pork's entire family sounds like a wonderful idea!

Perhaps if the IDF demonstrated clearly that the families of suicide bombers are 'fair game', this whole bombing business would come to a screeching halt.

That's what I'd do if I were Emperor of Israel, and public opinion by d*mned!

[Redbob]

"Run these depraved savage murderous beasts off the land for good."

No, run them off ALL lands.
"ethnic cleansing" is looking better and better.

[S.O.S121.500]

"One wonders how Powell made it to the top of The Joint Chiefs."

Two words:

QUOTA
BLACK

[Scott from the Left Coast]

A couple of months ago I was ridiculed by the support-Bush-at-all-costs contingent when I asked (in response to the Powell mission) how many Israeli lives was the Bush Policy (peace through negotiation) willing to sacrifice to implement its policy (appeasement of terror).

We are, apparently, learning that the number of Israeli lives (or to put it differently, the lives of the citizens of our ally in the war on terror) is a pretty large one. I now wonder if there even is a limit to the number of Israeli lives that we are willing to sacrifice to appease Islam. Because, just like two months ago, the Administrations' policy of appeasement is simply stated as trading Israeli lives for Arab (and leftist European) favor (oil, calm, Congressional elections, the pie-in-the-sky future Iraqi invasion - pick your reason).

I'd still like to know, how many lives these things are worth. And when can we say it is enough and wage war?

[rmlew]

My aunt was on that road about 2km back. Burn down Jenin.

[monkeyshine]

In one sense, it appears that there is no number of Israeli lives we will sacrifice in order to appease the Arabs. And in some sense maybe it shouldn't matter to us, since our interests should be the most important if not all consuming.

On the other hand, if we are to have a client relationship with Israel, than we are somewhat duty bound to protect Israel. If we don't expect anything from Israel, than we should not ask anything of her. Meanwhile it goes the other way, as long as they are asking for things from us, we should expect them to do our bidding from time to time (within reason). This episode is testing both sides -- and that is just where the Arabs want us.

My advice is for Israel to forego American $ support. Renounce it completely. It may cause the standards of living to be cut in half for the average Israeli. But it is obviously what they must do. Once they give up our $, they can then do what needs to be done to ensure the security of her people and her state.

I'm willing to bet that the minute Israel announces that they will no longer accept US foreign aid, the Arabs will crap in their robes and beg to make peace.