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LIMBAUGH RIPS BUSH WHITE HOUSE OVER GLOBAL WARMING 'FLIP-FLOP'
Drudge Report ^ | 6/3/02 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 06/03/2002 10:04:46 AM PDT by hchutch

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To: clintonh8r
"I turns out we really are the stupid party. It's all over this thread."

Republicans don't need political enemies...we've got each other---with too many believing it proves strong principles to eat our young.

Some of the posts on this thread could not be more harmful and further from the truth if they'd been penned by Terry McAuliffe or Hillary Clinton.

641 posted on 06/03/2002 6:02:39 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: christine11
Conversely, the same can be said about anyone who questions Rush.
642 posted on 06/03/2002 6:03:18 PM PDT by rintense
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To: CaptBlack
Most of us feel that President Bush is telling us the truth. The rest of you will never feel that way. You see as our problem, and we see it as your problem.

When so called conservatives jump into bed with the left wing maggots of the NY Slimes and quote their opeds as factual, they have lost all reality with me!

643 posted on 06/03/2002 6:03:19 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: floriduh voter
probably driving lots of listeners away.

From what I understand, those who prefer less government intrusion are tuning in in droves.
Bush really let a lot of real patriots down by joining the Democrats.
He might just as well pull a Jeffords and get on with it. No sence lieing to us anymore.

644 posted on 06/03/2002 6:03:36 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: cmsgop
(don't make me hit you wit my purse CMS..)
645 posted on 06/03/2002 6:04:06 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Yes, and it turns out that the "sheeple" are the ones who believe everything they read (or rather, someone reads to them) in the NYT.
646 posted on 06/03/2002 6:05:23 PM PDT by clintonh8r
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To: rintense
In June 2001 President Bush said the following about Global Warming........

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
June 11, 2001

President Bush Discusses Global Climate Change
     listenListen to the President's Remarks
     watchView the President's Remarks

11:10 A.M. EDT

     THE PRESIDENT:  Good morning. I've just met with senior members of my administration who are working to develop an effective and science-based approach to addressing the important issues of global climate change. President Bush makes a statement about global climate change on Monday, June 11 at the White House.

     This is an issue that I know is very important to the nations of Europe, which I will be visiting for the first time as President.  The earth's well-being is also an issue important to America.  And it's an issue that should be important to every nation in every part of our world.

     The issue of climate change respects no border.  Its effects cannot be reined in by an army nor advanced by any ideology.  Climate change, with its potential to impact every corner of the world, is an issue that must be addressed by the world.

     The Kyoto Protocol was fatally flawed in fundamental ways.  But the process used to bring nations together to discuss our joint response to climate change is an important one.  That is why I am today committing the United States of America to work within the United Nations framework and elsewhere to develop with our friends and allies and nations throughout the world an effective and science-based response to the issue of global warming.

     My Cabinet-level working group has met regularly for the last 10 weeks to review the most recent, most accurate, and most comprehensive science. They have heard from scientists offering a wide spectrum of views.  They have reviewed the facts, and they have listened to many theories and suppositions.  The working group asked the highly-respected National Academy of Sciences to provide us the most up-to-date information about what is known and about what is not known on the science of climate change.

     First, we know the surface temperature of the earth is warming.  It has risen by .6 degrees Celsius over the past 100 years.  There was a warming trend from the 1890s to the 1940s.  Cooling from the 1940s to the 1970s.  And then sharply rising temperatures from the 1970s to today.

     There is a natural greenhouse effect that contributes to warming. Greenhouse gases trap heat, and thus warm the earth because they prevent a significant proportion of infrared radiation from escaping into space. Concentration of greenhouse gases, especially CO2, have increased substantially since the beginning of the industrial revolution.  And the National Academy of Sciences indicate that the increase is due in large part to human activity.

     Yet, the Academy's report tells us that we do not know how much effect natural fluctuations in climate may have had on warming.  We do not know how much our climate could, or will change in the future.  We do not know how fast change will occur, or even how some of our actions could impact it.

     For example, our useful efforts to reduce sulfur emissions may have actually increased warming, because sulfate particles reflect sunlight, bouncing it back into space.  And, finally, no one can say with any certainty what constitutes a dangerous level of warming, and therefore what level must be avoided.

     The policy challenge is to act in a serious and sensible way, given the limits of our knowledge.  While scientific uncertainties remain, we can begin now to address the factors that contribute to climate change.

     There are only two ways to stabilize concentration of greenhouse gases.  One is to avoid emitting them in the first place; the other is to try to capture them after they're created.  And there are problems with both approaches.  We're making great progress through technology, but have not yet developed cost-effective ways to capture carbon emissions at their source; although there is some promising work that is being done.

     And a growing population requires more energy to heat and cool our homes, more gas to drive our cars.  Even though we're making progress on conservation and energy efficiency and have significantly reduced the amount of carbon emissions per unit of GDP.

     Our country, the United States is the world's largest emitter of manmade greenhouse gases.  We account for almost 20 percent of the world's man-made greenhouse emissions.  We also account for about one-quarter of the world's economic output.  We recognize the responsibility to reduce our emissions.  We also recognize the other part of the story -- that the rest of the world emits 80 percent of all greenhouse gases.  And many of those emissions come from developing countries.

     This is a challenge that requires a 100 percent effort; ours, and the rest of the world's.  The world's second-largest emitter of greenhouse gases is China.  Yet, China was entirely exempted from the requirements of the Kyoto Protocol.

     India and Germany are among the top emitters.  Yet, India was also exempt from Kyoto.  These and other developing countries that are experiencing rapid growth face challenges in reducing their emissions without harming their economies.  We want to work cooperatively with these countries in their efforts to reduce greenhouse emissions and maintain economic growth.

     Kyoto also failed to address two major pollutants that have an impact on warming:  black soot and tropospheric ozone.  Both are proven health hazards.  Reducing both would not only address climate change, but also dramatically improve people's health.

     Kyoto is, in many ways, unrealistic.  Many countries cannot meet their Kyoto targets.  The targets themselves were arbitrary and not based upon science.  For America, complying with those mandates would have a negative economic impact, with layoffs of workers and price increases for consumers. And when you evaluate all these flaws, most reasonable people will understand that it's not sound public policy.

     That's why 95 members of the United States Senate expressed a reluctance to endorse such an approach.  Yet, America's unwillingness to embrace a flawed treaty should not be read by our friends and allies as any abdication of responsibility.  To the contrary, my administration is committed to a leadership role on the issue of climate change.

     We recognize our responsibility and will meet it -- at home, in our hemisphere, and in the world.  My Cabinet-level working group on climate change is recommending a number of initial steps, and will continue to work on additional ideas.  The working group proposes the United States help lead the way by advancing the science on climate change, advancing the technology to monitor and reduce greenhouse gases, and creating partnerships within our hemisphere and beyond to monitor and measure and mitigate emissions.

     I also call on Congress to work with my administration to achieve the significant emission reductions made possible by implementing the clean energy technologies proposed in our energy plan.  Our working group study has made it clear that we need to know a lot more.

     The U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change commences to stabilizing concentrations at a level that will prevent dangerous human interference with the climate; but no one knows what that level is.  The United States has spent $18 billion on climate research since 1990 -- three times as much as any other country, and more than Japan and all 15 nations of the EU combined.

     Today, I make our investment in science even greater.  My administration will establish the U.S. Climate Change Research Initiative to study areas of uncertainty and identify priority areas where investments can make a difference.

     I'm directing my Secretary of Commerce, working with other agencies, to set priorities for additional investments in climate change research, review such investments, and to improve coordination amongst federal agencies.  We will fully fund high-priority areas for climate change science over the next five years.  We'll also provide resources to build climate observation systems in developing countries and encourage other developed nations to match our American commitment.

     And we propose a joint venture with the EU, Japan and others to develop state-of-the-art climate modeling that will help us better understand the causes and impacts of climate change.  America's the leader in technology and innovation.  We all believe technology offers great promise to significantly reduce emissions -- especially carbon capture, storage and sequestration technologies.

     So we're creating the National Climate Change Technology Initiative to strengthen research at universities and national labs, to enhance partnerships in applied research, to develop improved technology for measuring and monitoring gross and net greenhouse gas emissions, and to fund demonstration projects for cutting-edge technologies, such as bioreactors and fuel cells.

     Even with the best science, even with the best technology, we all know the United States cannot solve this global problem alone.  We're building partnerships within the Western Hemisphere and with other like-minded countries.  Last week, Secretary Powell signed a new CONCAUSA Declaration with the countries of Central America, calling for cooperative efforts on science research, monitoring and measuring of emissions, technology development, and investment in forest conservation.

     We will work with the Inter-American Institute for Global Change Research and other institutions to better understand regional impacts of climate change.  We will establish a partnership to monitor and mitigate emissions.  And at home, I call on Congress to work with my administration on the initiatives to enhance conservation and energy efficiency outlined in my energy plan, to implement the increased use of renewables, natural gas and hydropower that are outlined in the plan, and to increase the generation of safe and clean nuclear power.

     By increasing conservation and energy efficiency and aggressively using these clean energy technologies, we can reduce our greenhouse gas emissions by significant amounts in the coming years.  We can make great progress in reducing emissions, and we will.  Yet, even that isn't enough.

     I've asked my advisors to consider approaches to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, including those that tap the power of markets, help realize the promise of technology and ensure the widest-possible global participation. As we analyze the possibilities, we will be guided by several basic principles.  Our approach must be consistent with the long-term goal of stabilizing greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere.  Our actions should be measured as we learn more from science and build on it.

     Our approach must be flexible to adjust to new information and take advantage of new technology.  We must always act to ensure continued economic growth and prosperity for our citizens and for citizens throughout the world.  We should pursue market-based incentives and spur technological innovation.

     And, finally, our approach must be based on global participation, including that of developing countries whose net greenhouse gas emissions now exceed those in the developed countries.

     I've asked Secretary Powell and Administrator Whitman to ensure they actively work with friends and allies to explore common approaches to climate change consistent with these principles.  Each step we take will increase our knowledge.  We will act, learn, and act again, adjusting our approaches as science advances and technology evolves.

     Our administration will be creative.  We're committed to protecting our environment and improving our economy, to acting at home and working in concert with the world.  This is an administration that will make commitments we can keep, and keep the commitments that we make.

     I look forward to continued discussions with our friends and allies about this important issue.

     Thank you for coming.

END
11:20 A.M. EDT     


647 posted on 06/03/2002 6:05:33 PM PDT by deport
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To: jbstrick, goldilucky, kattracks, RonC, Buchanan mama, Aloha Ronnie
Chris Ruddy of www.newsmax.com hasn't forgotten that the FBI was ***GUTTED*** by Clinton!

...HAVE **YOU**?

How did Clinton get away with this? Because the MEDIA lets us forget! We are just marshmellows being warmed on the fire, our only worth is the vote we cast, and even that is manipulated by hapless Third Party Candidates who steal GOP victories!

This isn't about Principal, but about SURVIVAL! And anything President Bush has to do to UNDERMINE the Liberal/Socialist Machine is OKAY by me!!!

Look here at Rudy's fabulous article!! http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/29/215900.shtml

*** The Coup D'état at the FBI ***

"...[The] FBI's problems began when President Bill Clinton, for the first time in American history, fired the sitting FBI director, William S. Sessions. Clinton took this act on July 19, 1993, the day before his deputy White House counsel Vince Foster was found dead with a gunshot wound to the head in Fort Marcy Park.

"In a written statement to me soon after the death of Foster, Sessions explained the reason he was fired: He opposed the White House's politicization of the bureau...."

648 posted on 06/03/2002 6:06:03 PM PDT by Joy Angela
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To: WRhine
Does the burning fossil fuel contribute to an increase in the average temperature of the planet?

Did Bush sign Kyoto?

Is Bush placing new restrictions on the burning of fossil fuels in America?

Does Rush's nose get longer when he is led around by the New York Times holding on to it?

649 posted on 06/03/2002 6:06:54 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: rintense
You have a point there, rintense. I think that all these guys are finding out they are not the center of the universe and are just talk show hosts in the final analysis. They should just be glad that they've made millions for themselves but they are in an ego driven business. Thank God, that Dubya is his own man and is the most important head of state in the world, not just a wealthy, talk show host. FV


650 posted on 06/03/2002 6:07:16 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: Jhoffa_
BACK FROM THE DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!! WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!
651 posted on 06/03/2002 6:07:43 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: floriduh voter
You make an excellent point regarding steroid use in auto immune disorders. Can't tell you how many times, I wondered that myself. I know Rush complained of the bloating effects,pre surgery- I do not know if steroids are given post implant, but one of the side effects of long term prednisone use is a an altered personality.But, there is no doubt in any of the minds of the large group of ex listeners that I know-Rush has definitely had a personality change and it seemed to coincide with his ear surgery. He's flat out mean, now.
652 posted on 06/03/2002 6:07:47 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Deb
Rush is NO bush-hater deb... and you know it. Neither am I. I just know a leopard by its spots. And cannot call it a racoon. Conservatism USED to be about the truth, to some it has become the support of the unsupportable.

This report could have and should have been tabled indefinitely. Period. Taking away issues from the dems by espousing liberalism is NOT my idea of wisdom.

You like it... good for you. I don't. Bush is acting like a sellout on this and other issues. ONE of them is on the front page of FreeRepublic and has been for months... the issue of CFR... which bush signed in to law. MOST freepers hate it. Bush bought it, hook line and sinker.

Signing it, if he truly disagreed with it, was dishonest at heart and immoral at best. This issue on the global warming will be no different. It will become the apriori for governmental aegis for the next three or four years... Bush issued the report. We are signed on with it.

What issue remains that bush has NOT yet partially caved on. Has he never met a principle that he could not compromise to get more mileage out of? Is that what I want in a president?

I had hoped for something better, that is all. And I am disappointed. I think it is just too bad... although it could have been worse, I guess.

... spilled milk. nevermind... next issue.

653 posted on 06/03/2002 6:08:19 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: jeremiah
Because there was probably some statutory requirement tied to its release?
654 posted on 06/03/2002 6:10:47 PM PDT by marajade
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To: floriduh voter; rintense; MJY1288; Grampa Dave
When Rush lost his hearing, apparently his mind went with it. I heard him today, though I vowed I would give him up, and from what I heard, I would call him certifiably insane.

Grampa Dave, I'm sorry I didn't follow your advice, but I was almost glad I heard Rush make a Bush/algore comparison. Now I know he's in it for ratings, and not for truth, nor the Conservative cause. Any idiot knows the gulf between the algore and the President is enormous, and saying there is no difference has got to be for entertainment effect only.

As of today, I have lost all remaining respect for Rush.

655 posted on 06/03/2002 6:11:49 PM PDT by ohioWfan
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To: deport
" For example, our useful efforts to reduce sulfur emissions may have actually increased warming, because sulfate particles reflect sunlight, bouncing it back into space. And, finally, no one can say with any certainty what constitutes a dangerous level of warming, and therefore what level must be avoided.

The policy challenge is to act in a serious and sensible way, given the limits of our knowledge. While scientific uncertainties remain, we can begin now to address the factors that contribute to climate change."

That's as sound a policy as you can get with the limited scientific knowledge we have right now. But lets see if these pouting pitchforkers here can do as good a job as spinning this as the NYT's!

656 posted on 06/03/2002 6:12:36 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: MJY1288
my answer to you was so well said by captblack that i will repost it.

Personally, I'm left to wonder at a "strategery" that leaves a great deal of your base annoyed (at best confused or in a "wait and see" posture) and your enemies emboldened. Whatever happened to simply telling the truth boldly and consistently? To taking the fight right to the enemy in the way of speeches? Whatever happened to courage of convictions? Why are folks on this thread left to surmise and argue among themselves what is meant by this or that move by the administration? Is there anything wrong with longing for a day when you have a leader who will clue you in?

657 posted on 06/03/2002 6:13:01 PM PDT by christine
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To: jwalsh07
Yeah.. I believed it also, because it sounded so legit.

I mean, if they aren't yanking air quality standards out of the abyss or whining about some guy draining the ditch behind his house they are harping about "global warming" and how it's gonna kill us all by the end of the week.

I figure the NYT story will be widely read and widely believed because there is such a great precedent for this kind of thing.

658 posted on 06/03/2002 6:14:10 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: christine11
Have you read the report? can you answer that?
659 posted on 06/03/2002 6:14:44 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: Jhoffa_
Haven't seen you around. All OK on the western front?
660 posted on 06/03/2002 6:16:07 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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