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Hillary the Centrist Presidential Candidate (The Mother of All Barf Alerts)
Newsweek ^ | May 31, 2002 | Eleanor Clift

Posted on 06/02/2002 4:55:21 AM PDT by Ordinary_American

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:35 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

"The former First Lady is positioning herself as a showy centrist for Campaign 2008."


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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; hillary
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To: Samwise
Let's pray that she doesn't pull this one off.

Too late......she already did!

Open at your own risk!
Not too Flattering of hitler clintoon

21 posted on 06/02/2002 6:00:08 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: steve50


22 posted on 06/02/2002 6:01:24 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Ordinary_American
Clift is a shill

That woman's face on television is a barf alert all by itself (pick one--Clift or Hillary ;-) ).

Clift thinks the Socialist Workers party is centrist. In her political spectrum the left wing has been cut off the bird.

If you can stand to look at the witch Clift for more than a nanosecond you will notice that her facial expression is a vicious hatred of all that is good in this world.

She--and Hillary--are the enemies of civilization. For each to be so prominent in public life is a frightening development that bodes ill for the futures of generations to come.
23 posted on 06/02/2002 6:01:56 AM PDT by cgbg
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To: Samwise
That is my most riveting memory of those two as well. I do recall her saying they laughed heartily while saying it. Sick...sick...sick...
24 posted on 06/02/2002 6:03:24 AM PDT by Crawdad
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To: Ordinary_American
From http://www.msnbc.com/news/760135.asp:
IMG: Eleanor Clift
Whither Hillary?
The former First Lady is positioning herself as a showy centrist for Campaign 2008. But the Republicans also have their favorites waiting in the wings

NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE


May 31 —  All politics is personal. Nobody knows that better than Hillary Clinton, whom voters seem to either love or hate depending on her latest hairdo or karma with her husband.
HILLARY REMAINS resolutely opaque on the subject of her future ambition. Neutral observers give her high marks for the way she has blended into the Senate’s clubby culture, even joining conservative Republicans in a weekly prayer group. The junior senator for New York has never been the wild-eyed liberal her critics imagine, but she must have squirmed just a bit when protesters showed up outside her Washington home in late May objecting to her support for a Republican-backed welfare bill.
The former First Lady’s makeover as a political centrist dates back to the shellacking she took as the architect of the health-care plan that almost sank the Clinton presidency. Her acquiescence to punitive welfare rules on poor women is analogous to her husband’s capitulation to his political advisors in 1996, when he signed the original welfare-reform bill that the Republican-controlled House has now voted five years later to toughen. Senator Clinton claimed in a letter to the editor of The New York Times earlier this month that she backs the bill because her intention is to try to improve some of its provisions, like making more money available for child care for mothers required to work more hours.
        But the political calculation is transparent, and it may pay off. Hillary is establishing her bona fides as a centrist, which is where elections are won when the country is as divided between the two main parties as we are today. She rebuffs all talk about a presidential run for now and is focused on New York. But watch what she does, not what she says. This is a woman who knows how to keep her options open, and she’s doing it very well.

        The likely scenario for 2004 is that President Bush will win re-election. Americans don’t like to change presidents in the middle of war. And you can be sure the war against terrorism will be ongoing, as the Bush administration defines it, until at least election day in 2004. Even if we go a full three years without another attack, Bush will say it doesn’t mean a thing—and who’s to say he’s wrong?
        President Clinton is telling friends that Al Gore has a 60 percent chance of winning the nomination in 2004. The likely path for Democrats is that Gore runs again, probably teamed with Sen. Joe Lieberman, on a “We wuz robbed” ticket. Unless Sen. John McCain jumps in the race as an independent and scrambles the numbers, Gore will lose.

Looking ahead to 2008 is therapy for Democrats. “Will Rudy [Giuliani, the former New York mayor] run against Hillary ?” muses a Democratic pollster. “Only if Rudy makes up with W,” he concludes. “Otherwise Bush will block him.” Speculating about a race six years out may be foolish given the vagaries of politics, but it’s such fun. The three biggest GOP stars are McCain, Giuliani and Secretary of State Colin Powell. Each, however, has crossed swords with Bush either personally or ideologically. The successors Bush might prefer, Vice President Dick Cheney or Homeland Security tsar Tom Ridge, are not credible contenders; Cheney because of his health, Ridge because he’s been a dud on TV.
        Bush might once have looked to Powell, but their dissonance on hot-button issues like the Middle East and a missile-defense shield have eroded Powell’s popularity with the Bushies. Powell may be a huge hero to everybody in the country, but to Bush’s brain trust, namely Cheney and Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, he is a staff officer. They knew him when he was a lieutenant colonel and those hierarchical relationships get set in stone. For his part, Powell is extremely respectful of the chain of command. A Democrat who served in the Carter administration regrets that President Carter didn’t discover Powell when he was just beginning his rise through the ranks. “He’s the guy you dream about,” says this former official. “How could we have let him slip through the net?”
        Powell voted Democratic at least through the 1964 election of Lyndon Johnson, and who knows after that. On social issues, he appears to favor the Democrats. But Republicans gave him his breaks, and he is Republican more by circumstance than inclination. He’s an unlikely future candidate for the GOP because the party’s foot soldiers don’t regard Powell as a real Republican.
        The country loves Powell, but Bush doesn’t. That doesn’t mean that Powell will quit in disgust or disagreement. Friends who know him say that will never happen. One, he’s a military officer trained to be loyal. And two, as an African-American, he’s very aware he’s carrying a unique historical legacy. He’ll never quit, but he won’t have a second term after the election. “He’s a one-term secretary of State even if Bush wins a second term, and even if Cheney leaves,” says a former ambassador who has worked closely with Powell. And there’s only one person who Bush can replace Powell with, and that’s national-security adviser Condoleezza Rice.
        Aside from her race, which would soften the blow of losing Powell, she is the natural successor to the job. There are enough historical precedents that if Bush didn’t promote her, he would be criticized—and deservedly so. Her critics see lapses in her expertise on non-Russian issues and aren’t sure where she stands, if anywhere, on some of the big strategic questions such as the Middle East. But her skills in presenting the administration’s message and staying cool under fire are unsurpassed. “She’s their surrogate daughter,” says a former Clinton official. “They love her, and she’s given her life to them.”
        Imagining Rice as the next secretary of State makes Democrats crazy. Not that they don’t think she can do the job. But Clinton made so much of the fact that he was appointing the first woman to the job with Madeleine Albright, having Bush trump him is hard to take. Still, the Clintons have a few cards left to play as well, which is what Hillary’s showy centrism can do: get her ready for 2008.
       
       © 2002 Newsweek, Inc.

25 posted on 06/02/2002 6:12:48 AM PDT by RonDog
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To: Ordinary_American
Hillary the Centrist Presidential Candidate

What country is she going to run in? Cuba or maybe one of those forward looking african nations?

26 posted on 06/02/2002 6:14:52 AM PDT by tcostell
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To: steve50
I'm afraid it's a done deal, just a question of 04 or 08.

I agree, but my gut tells me it's `04 after another one term Bush Presidency.

GWB has played too nicely with the vipers and they will be happy to make him pay for that.

Also, has the Bush admin thoroughly examined the 9-11 attacks from the angle of an attempted coup?...if not, why not?
27 posted on 06/02/2002 6:16:11 AM PDT by wheezer
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To: backhoe
You are right ! This is Clintons mess ..

I always think it is funny when someone says Clinton left Bush with a good economy..and he ruined it.. Clinton left Bush with 8 years of foreign policy incompetency and no military ...thus we get 9/11

28 posted on 06/02/2002 6:20:11 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Ordinary_American

Noticeably absent - HRC (can't bring myself to write her name). Intentional ..... ???????

29 posted on 06/02/2002 6:22:23 AM PDT by NYer
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To: wheezer
Not sure about the coup angle. I think his move to the left is going to do more damage than his poll takers expected. It's going to cost him some right wing support and he's not going to pick up much from the left.
30 posted on 06/02/2002 6:27:13 AM PDT by steve50
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To: Ordinary_American
The article reads like a gossip column, yet it's under the opinion section.

Clift is drinking some heavy duty Kool-aid again

31 posted on 06/02/2002 6:31:06 AM PDT by JZoback
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To: RnMomof7
Yes, it's "The Legacy that just keeps on giving..."
32 posted on 06/02/2002 6:32:01 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: RonDog
Still, the Clintons have a few cards left to play as well, which is what Hillary’s showy centrism can do: get her ready for 2008.

Wow!!!!!! Putting aside the desperate grab for the Barf Bag over Clift's pik and the actual content of what is written........what I am astounded by is the unbridled PROPAGANDA and TRIAL-BALLOONing of this article.

No doubt, that there are many weak-minded Dems (Is there any other type?) that will be shaking their heads in the affrimative and salivating at the thoughts expressed herein.

33 posted on 06/02/2002 6:33:11 AM PDT by DoctorMichael
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To: Samwise
When she was asked how it felt to wake up in the White House as First Lady, she responded that she and Bill pulled the covers down, sat up in bed, looked at each other, and said, "We pulled it off!"

Almost -- she had to nudge Monica out of the way first.

34 posted on 06/02/2002 6:34:00 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg
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To: RonDog
I loathe Clift just as much as any FReeper, but that article seems balanced (or maybe even Right-leaning!). It talks about the utter failure of HillaryCaretm, her caving on welfare issues, being "transparent", "watch what she does, not what she says", touts GWB as the likely winner in 2004 against the Go/Lie 'We wuz robbed' ticket, "Looking ahead to 2008 is therapy for Democrats", Carter's failure to use Powell (although she does suck up to Powell over Bush), "Hillary’s showy centrism", and "makes Democrats crazy"... I dare say it could've been written by a majority of FReepers. Aside from the author, where's the need for the BARF-Alert?
35 posted on 06/02/2002 6:34:17 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: DoctorMichael
Wow, I read a very different article than you, LOL. I think it's pretty well-established that Hillary will run in 2004 or 2008, no matter how oblique she's being with the media. Clift's article surely couldn't be a trial-balloon for something that's already common knowledge. In fact, it mentions Republicans more than it does Hitlary... a clear violation of propaganda ethics! ;^)
36 posted on 06/02/2002 6:40:47 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Ordinary_American
What Clift and her puppetmaster Her Evilness fail to notice is that they belong to a coterie of liberal women who are just going to rub the nation the wrong way. Another good example is Susan Estrich; I love the fact that Fox News now broadcasts over here, but dear GOD, when she was on there yesterday I nearly put a rock through my telly just to shut her up. Hillary and Eleanor are the same way - the smug, condescending socialism of a nanny elite, the "it takes a village" variety of noblesse oblige, the "L'etat c'est moi" brand of Democrat politics has a limited audience, namely those who cannot be bothered to think or fend for themselves.

Unfortunately, these people existed in enough of a concentration in the New York area to get the First Bitch elected to the Senate, but there are insufficient numbers in the country as a whole to give her anything more.

Regards, Ivan

37 posted on 06/02/2002 6:41:08 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: steve50
"There is a natural aristocracy among men. The grounds of this are virtue and talents... There is also an artificial aristocracy founded on wealth and birth, without either virtue or talents; for with these it would belong to the first class... The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government, and provision should be made to prevent its ascendency."
--Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, 1813.

38 posted on 06/02/2002 6:43:17 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Ordinary_American
She will find a way to run in 2004....that's why Clinton's hand picked man is running the DNC.
39 posted on 06/02/2002 6:44:10 AM PDT by Solid Oak
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To: Ordinary_American
I learned long ago to "Never trust anyone named Eleanor!".
40 posted on 06/02/2002 6:52:34 AM PDT by reg45
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