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How did the infidels win?
National Post ^ | June 01 2002 | Bernard Lewis

Posted on 06/01/2002 11:01:44 AM PDT by knighthawk

From the time of Muhammad till the second siege of Vienna in 1683, Islamic civilization regarded the Christian West as a benighted backwater. Then things changed. Historian Bernard Lewis asks:

In the enormously rich historical literature developed during 14 centuries of Islamic history, until very recent times, there were no histories of countries or nations. Rather, there are histories of Islam and histories of particular dynasties or states within Islam. We think, for example, of the long wars involving the Muslims and the Europeans, the Moors in Spain, the Tartars in Russia or the Turks in Europe. But in the Muslim world, they do not describe encounters in these terms. They never use the words "Arab" or "Moors" or "Tartars" or "Turks" in this context. The division is always the wars between the Muslims and the unbelievers.

In the West, the nation is seen as the natural unit of identify and allegiance. But until recently, this was not so in the Muslim world. In modern times, the Arab world has been chopped up into what would apparently seem to be nation-states. But if you look at them closely, you can see their artificiality. Look at the borders. Most of North America's borders are straight lines. That's understandable because they were drawn with pencils and rulers on maps. The borders of Europe are different. They are not straight lines. They are the result of a thousand years of struggle. You would expect the same to be the case in the Middle East, where the entities are even more ancient than those of Europe. But no, their borders are straight lines drawn by Europeans. Perhaps even more remarkably, there is no word in Arabic for Arabia. This is not because Arabic is a poor language. On the contrary, Arabic is an incredibly rich language. It is because the Muslims simply did not think in terms of territorial ethnic identity.

I mention this point because I think it's important in understanding Muslim perceptions of what is going on.

In the Muslim perception, the world took a new turn in the 7th century when Islam was born and spread rapidly in all directions with enormous success. This was seen at the time, with some justification, as a challenge to other faiths. Anyone who has been to Jerusalem will surely have visited the Dome of the Rock. That magnificent structure is the oldest surviving Muslim religious building outside Arabia. If you go inside, you will see inscriptions written on the dome. One says "He is God. He is one. He does not beget. He is not begotten." This is an explicit rejection of certain basic Christian dogmas. By building this structure in Jerusalem of all places, which at that time was not yet regarded as a Muslim Holy City, by putting up this building with these inscriptions in Jerusalem, the Muslims were in effect saying to the Christian world -- and, in particular to the Christian emperor in Constantinople, "Your time has passed. Now we are here. Move over."

There has been a lot of talk of late about the clash of civilizations. Most of the civilizations known to history -- such as those of China, India, Greece, Rome, Egypt and Babylon -- have been regional. Christianity and Islam are different. These are the only two civilizations whose underlying religions claim not only that their truths are universal -- all religions claim that -- but also that their truths are exclusive. Both believe that they are the fortunate recipients of God's final revelation to mankind, and it is therefore their duty to bring it to the rest of the world. It is inevitable that you will have a clash between two religions that are geographically adjacent, historical consecutive, theologically akin.

For a long time, Islam got the better of this clash. For a period of centuries, the civilization of Islam was by far the most advanced and the most creative in the world. It was enormously successful in every material sense. Its armies coming out of Arabia conquered everything across the Middle East and North Africa. They invaded Europe, conquering Spain, Portugal, Southern Italy and even advancing into France. Eastwards, they advanced across to Central Asia and India. Muslims also developed a highly sophisticated economic system of production and exchange with a remarkably advanced system of banking and credit. As far back as the 10th century, a Muslim merchant or a non-Muslim merchant living under Muslim rule could draw a cheque in Southern Iraq and cash it in Morocco.

From the perspective of Muslims, Western Europe was a kind of outer darkness of barbarism and unbelief, a primitive tribe beyond the border to which they gave understandably little attention. There was nothing to fear and nothing to learn. On the contrary, it was the Europeans who went to the great Muslim universities in Spain, in Sicily and in the East. In those centuries, Europe -- meaning Christendom as Muslims saw it -- was a poor benighted backwater.

Then things changed. The change was gradual, and took place over a vast area and a long period. But what brought the change home were rather dramatic single events. One of those events was the second Turkish siege of Vienna in 1683.

It is important to remember that, in the 17th century, Islam was still threatening Europe, not the other way around. Turkish pashas were still ruling in Budapest and in Belgrade. Corsairs from North Africa were still raiding the European coasts, including the coasts of England and Ireland and, on one occasion, even Iceland -- collecting human booty for sale in the slave markets of Algiers.

The first Turkish siege of Vienna ended in a sort of draw. But the second siege, in 1683, was a disaster. A Turkish historian of the time, describing the episode, said: "This is the most calamitous defeat that we have suffered since the foundation of our state." One must admire his candour and regret that similar candour is rarely to be found among present day historians of the region.

The defeat outside Vienna was followed by a headlong retreat through the Balkans and a peace treaty, the Treaty of Karlowitz in 1699, the first ever imposed on a defeated Ottoman empire by victorious Christian European enemies.

The lessons of history are often taught on the battlefield. In this case, the lesson was clear.

Among Muslims, the debate began at the beginning of the 18th century, and has been going on ever since. The main question: What went wrong?

There was a growing awareness that Muslims, who had always been victorious, were now losing on the battlefield, in the marketplace and, in fact, in every significant field of human endeavor. The debate became increasingly agonized, and continues to the present day.

When you become aware that things are going wrong, there are two ways you can approach the problem. First, you can ask "What are they doing right?" There were many Muslims who followed this line of inquiry, and experimented with Western forms of warfare and weaponry, Western-style factories, parliaments and the like.

The second approach is to say "Who did this to us?" This of course leads into a twilight world of anti-Western conspiracy theories and neurotic fantasies. Unfortunately, this approach has prevailed in many parts of the Muslim world to the present day.

In answering the question, "Who did this to us?" Muslims have often blamed "Imperialists." (Of course, when Muslims were invading Europe, imperialist expansionism was seen as natural and good because the invaders were bringing the word of God to the heathens. When the Europeans, after centuries of Muslim domination, counterattacked on the other hand, this was wicked.) In this regard, the United States has now inherited the role of its Christian predecessors. As many Muslims see it, the world continues to be divided between the Islamic world and its age-old imperialist rival, the Christian world. This division is at the heart of the writings of Osama Bin Laden and his complaints about the "crusader" presence in Saudi Arabia and so forth.

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Even after the second siege of Vienna, the Arab world was largely shielded from reality by Ottoman power, even in the era of Ottoman decline and retreat. But eventually, that came to an end.

The modern history of the Arab world is generally held to begin at the end of the 18th century, when the French Republic sent a small expeditionary force commanded by a young general called Napoleon Bonaparte to Egypt. To the utter shock and horror of the Egyptians and everyone else in the region, this small army from France was able to invade, conquer, occupy and govern Egypt without the slightest difficulty. The fact that an army from the West managed to penetrate one of the heartlands of the Islamic world -- not just Vienna or the Balkans -- was a terrible shock.

But if the arrival of the French was a shock, their departure was a second and perhaps more salutary shock. The eviction of the French was accomplished not by the Egyptians, nor by the Turks, but by a small squadron of the Royal Navy commanded by a young Admiral called Horatio Nelson.

The lesson was clear: A European power could come to the region and do what it pleased, and only another European power could get them out. Thus began the game, so to speak, of playing European powers off against one another.

For two centuries or more, the scenario remained the same -- though the players were sometimes different. In the final phase, the players were the two superpowers, the Soviet Union and the United States; and Middle Eastern leaders used the skills they had perfected over two centuries in playing them off against each other.

Then, suddenly, it came to an end. The phase in history that had been initiated by Bonaparte and Nelson was terminated by Bush and Gorbachev. Suddenly, there was no rivalry; there were no rival powers. First one and then the other seemed disinclined to play the Imperial role -- the Russians because they couldn't and the Americans because they wouldn't.

Some Muslim leaders are trying to keep playing the old game, and so are seeking another power to play off against the West, as it is embodied by the United States. The prime candidate is the European Union, or at least some parts of the European Union where there is a negative sentiment regarding America. Unfortunately, for those who pursue this policy, even if the Europeans have the will to play this role, they lack the ability.

The other, and at first sightly more promising response to the end of the Cold War, was that of Osama bin Laden. He and his followers make it perfectly clear in their writings that they regard the defeat of the Soviet Union as their achievement -- through their long struggle in Afghanistan. I think you must agree it is not by any means an implausible explanation of what happened.

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Where are we now? Within the Islamic world, more particularly the Middle Eastern world, I think one must divide countries in terms of their attitude to the West into three zones. One zone comprises those countries that have governments that we are pleased to regard as pro-Western and pro-American. These governments are therefore, and I stress the word "therefore," cordially detested by their people. They are detested not because they are pro-West but because they are regarded as Western puppets and therefore the West is held responsible for the corruption and tyranny of these regimes. It is no accident that most of the hijackers and terrorists on Sept. 11 came from countries with Western-friendly governments.

A second group are countries with hostile governments. I am thinking in particular of Iraq and Iran, perhaps also Syria. These are bitterly anti-American and anti-Western; and therefore their peoples are very pro-Western and pro-American. Let me relate an Iranian joke that I heard only last week from an Iranian, which I think captures the mood. (Jokes are often the only uncensored form of comment in these countries.) When American planes began to fly over Afghanistan, many Iranians put out notices over their houses saying, "This way, please."

In these countries whose governments detest the West, all the indications are that there is general goodwill toward the West among the people. In Iran, for example, after 9/11, great numbers of people went out into the streets and lit candles in sympathy vigils. This did not happen in nominally U.S.-friendly countries like Saudi Arabia; quite the reverse.

The third group comprises the Middle Eastern countries where both the government and the people are friendly. There are just two countries in this categories: Turkey and Israel, which happen to be the only two countries with functioning democracies.

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Let me end with a discussion about Western influence in the Middle East. We tend to think of modernization and Westernization as good things. And, in many ways, they have been good things. But they have also done tremendous damage to Muslim societies. They have, for example, strengthened dictatorship to a degree that was never possible previously.

Modernization has strengthened the central power, and given the government new means of surveillance and repression. This has made possible that ultimate example of Westernization -- the one-party dictatorship. It flourishes in Syria and in Iraq at the present time in a way that combines the Nazi and Soviet models.

Westernization also has the effect of enfeebling or eliminating the limiting powers within a society. In traditional societies, there were many limiting powers that acted as constraints on government power. There were the urban patricians, the country nobility, the religious establishment, the military establishment and others. All these were enfeebled or abolished and made subject to the central authority.

There was a time when socialism and nationalism were the two most widely accepted creeds in the Middle East -- particularly after the end of the Second World War, when the Soviets had won great victories in Eastern Europe. The British Labour Party had won a great electoral victory, throwing out the mighty Winston Churchill. Socialism was seen as the wave of the future. So they brought in a whole series of socialist governments all over the Arab world. There was some debate. Some said that we must have Arab socialism; that is to say socialism, but adjusted to the different Arab cultural context. Others said, "No, that's nonsense. We must have scientific socialism," meaning the Moscow Marxists' variety. By now, I think they would all agree that socialism is neither Arab nor scientific.

The other great slogan of the time was nationalism, which was supposed to bring freedom, throwing off the foreign yoke. Unfortunately, there was some confusion between freedom and independence. Indeed, in most of the places that had previously been under Imperial rule, they had less freedom under independence than they had under foreign rule. So you had the two ideas discredited -- socialism discredited by its failure; nationalism discredited by its success. These were the two great movements that dominated public discourse and public life in these countries for half a century. Both are dead. Both are gone. So, where do they turn now?

Basically there are two alternative approaches. One is the approach of those who ask, "What did we do wrong?" and who feel that the way forward is to modernize their societies but to do it properly and, most important of all, with a measure of democratization of their political institutions and liberalization of their economies.

On the other hand you have those who say: "The source of all our troubles was the West" -- either what Westerners themselves did or, more frequently and more importantly, what Westernizing local "puppets" or imitators did. And the remedy, therefore, is to go back to back in time to the true, authentic, original Islam. This is the remedy proposed by the Islamic Republic in Iran and also by the various terrorist movements.

The choice between the two approaches is an awe-inspiring one; and, at this point, I would not like to predict which way it will go. It is, of course, going both ways at the present time.

Bernard Lewis is the Cleveland E. Dodge Professor of Near Eastern Studies, Emeritus, at Princeton University. He has written numerous books about Islam, including, most recently, What Went Wrong: Western Impact and Middle Eastern Response. This essay is adapted from a May 30 speech delivered by Prof. Lewis in Toronto as part of the Donner Canadian Foundation Lecture Series.


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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
War against "evil?" Who is fighting this war and who are the combatants? I'm familiar with the one against terrorism, but not evil.
41 posted on 06/01/2002 3:46:40 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: aristeides
Unfortunately, Edward Said's acolytes of Orientalism run Near-East Departments.
43 posted on 06/01/2002 5:02:23 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: knighthawk
This infidel sez: interesting read.
44 posted on 06/01/2002 5:40:03 PM PDT by BMCDA
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To: knighthawk
What happened? St. Thomas Aquinas and Ghengis Khan.

Early in the 13th century, Aquinas argued for the validity of Science as the investigation of the will of God. (God made the world and gave us stewardship of it; should we not then investigate it, to better know His creation and thus Him?) At the same time, Muslim mystics were arguing the exact opposite. Shortly thereafter, in 1260, the armies of Ghengis Khan came out of central Asia and sacked Baghdad, and Islam almost collapsed. Islam was always a religion of conquest; Allah's legitimacy usually depended on whether or not his armies were victorious, and in the Sack of Baghdad, they lost. The Caliph was trampled to death by the Khan's horsemen. Islam was saved by the Mamelukes of Egypt, who quickly invented their own Caliph, and then won a victory by fighting scorched-earth war across Syria. I think the decisive battle was at Aleppo, but it may have at - you guessed it - Mount Meggido (Har-Meggido AKA Armageddon).

Anyway, eventually the Mongols did adopt Islam (to better control their subjects) and the Ottoman Turks then began their winning streak until Lepanto in 1572, and finally Vienna.

But the point is that Europe was theologically ready for the Renaissance after Aquinas; Islam was condemned to primitivism by its mystics. The fact that shortly thereafter the irruption of the Mongols (who were at that time pagan) permitted the opening of Europe to the east (as long as Moslems controlled the passage east, Christian Marco Polo would never have made it to China) and thus set Christendom on the road to dominance can only be described as an act of God.

45 posted on 06/01/2002 6:42:05 PM PDT by Chairman Fred
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To: jimmyBEEgood
If the press had any guts --- and I include Fox News --- they would show pictures like this on the boob tube. But they have no guts. They don't want the boobs to know the truth.
46 posted on 06/01/2002 6:52:19 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: knighthawk
This one is SO easy. Here's why the "infidels" are winning:

- Loaning of money at compound interest rates (forbidden under *both* Islam & medieval Catholicism)

- Many roles for women even in 16th-19th century Western society;

- End to the guild system and the rise of capitalism;

- Widespread literacy and "numeracy" (knowledge of math) largely through more widespread education (for BOTH boys & girls);

- Science;

- The Jewish/Christian worldview (where God is a loving, providential Trinity, caring for his human family vs. God as an abstract master lording it over his slaves.)

47 posted on 06/01/2002 7:13:24 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
How fortunate that his theories so closely conform to traditional Anglo/Saxon prejudices and yet pay careful homage to the proper multi-cultural pieties.

You got something to say? Then say it - no beating around the bush. Out with it. Now.

48 posted on 06/01/2002 8:41:51 PM PDT by tictoc
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To: knighthawk
Bookmarking and Bumping for my woman to read.

You have mail.

49 posted on 06/01/2002 8:46:24 PM PDT by AmericanCheeseFood
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
The civilization that engineered the sleek, antiseptic, bulky rectangles on the tip of Manhattan island will NOT be able to prevail, in the long run, against it's many enemies. It's too fragile--too rootless.

Just 58 years ago, that civilization bleed, died, and buried its finest sons here; to save others.

Today, weekly American church attendance in America is 43%; whereas in Europe it is in the single digits, mostly among the very old. On October 4th 1997, the Washington Mall was filled up from the Capitol reflection pool to the Washington Monument with men, on their faces before God for the Stand in the Gap rally, asking for healing of their nation. When was the last time that took place on the Champs de Eliese?

50 posted on 06/01/2002 10:17:30 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Mitchell
Maybe the prime candidate is not the European Union, but China.

Most assuredly. They have been courting each other for awhile now.

China and Saudi Arabia Relations (detailed)
http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/eng/4424.html

The key point, all this started at the end of the cold war.
Hmmmmmmmmmm
51 posted on 06/02/2002 12:42:02 AM PDT by My Identity
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
But maybe, with some sort of miraculous intervention, the civilization that inspired the tiny church at the base of the Trade Towers--crushed in the collapse--will.

Some of today's most insightful commentators on the real public issues of the day, such as E. Michael Jones, are of the Roman communion. Other, such as R J Rushdoony, are rooted in rigorous Calvinism. The anti-intellectual traditions (fundamentalist) and the anti-christian traditions ("mainline protestantism) contribute more heat than light to the public discourse.

52 posted on 06/02/2002 1:19:33 AM PDT by TomSmedley
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To: knighthawk
bump
53 posted on 06/02/2002 9:58:07 AM PDT by timestax
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To: My Identity
China's role, if any, in the current world crisis is not known. It is clear, however, that China stands to benefit from a protracted war between the West and the Muslim world, as such a war would weaken their two main enemies.

I wouldn't put it past China to be taking steps to encourage the Islamic extremists. Meanwhile, the Islamic extremists would hypothetically be taking advantage of Chinese support (much as the mujahideen were willing to accept U.S. support during the Afghan war against the U.S.S.R.). If this is happening, it's an alliance of convenience between the two sides (China and the Muslim world), with each side figuring that it will get the long-term advantage.

This is all very speculative. China has provided military support to Pakistan, even in connection with Pakistan's nuclear program. China reportedly purchased U.S. missiles from Osama bin Laden (the missiles were retrieved by al-Qaeda after a U.S. attack in the 1990's, as I recall). Videotapes of the World Trade Center attack were said to be very popular in China after 9/11, including even at the highest levels of the Chinese government.

The background is also not encouraging. China is doing something with all the information stolen or purchased during the Clinton years. There is lingering resentment over the U.S. bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade. And, of course, the incident with the downed American plane in the first part of 2001 demonstrates the current state of U.S.-China relations. There are repeated reports that China is developing techniques of cyberwarfare (don't just think of vandalism like website defacement -- these techniques would be useful for espionage, for disrupting communications and other computer-controlled intrastructure, for inserting false information into our systems, and generally in support of a traditional attack).

By the way, why do we hear nothing about China's biological weapons program? They must have one.

54 posted on 06/02/2002 11:23:23 AM PDT by Mitchell
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To: knighthawk
Little wonder the Islamaniacs hate Bernard Lewis he has their number.
55 posted on 06/03/2002 6:46:04 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
Who can you point us to with a better understanding of the Islamaniacs and their psychotic "prophet" Mad Mo (piss be upon his head)?
56 posted on 06/03/2002 7:01:11 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Ibn Warraq, the writer of the book 'Why I am not a muslim' and writer of articles like:

STATEMENT BY IBN WARRAQ ON THE WORLD TRADE CENTER ATROCITY

An interview

From him:

Nowadays many people are asking questions about the nature of Islam. Apologists of this religion often assert to the media that Islam is a religion of peace. People who have not read any of the Koran often have the same idea, because it sounds familiar to them from media reports. It is usually a Mohammedan true believer who makes such a public proclamation. In today’s political climate, it is likely that a harsh, but honest, exposition of Islam’s central ideas is of interest to Westerners. Talking-head news announcers frequently inform us that Islam is a peaceful religion. When interviews of representatives of Islam are presented, the claimant is seldom pressed to explain the scriptural basis of Islamic intolerance, or why today’s, faith-based terrorists are Islamic. The news presenters do not know enough abut Islam.

One thing that is within our power to accomplish in the near term is to instruct the people who present information to us via the media. If this is done, it may be possible to let independently thinking members of the public discover for themselves that religion is bunk.  

The claimant is rarely asked to explain what the scriptural / spiritual basis of the terrorism is thought to be. The answer, of course, is faith in the Koran. The Koranic dictum should be stated in the press. References should be given. We must argue that it can’t be that the Koran is merely misunderstood. When the Koran urges to kill and to torture the unbeliever, the Jew or the apostate, there is only one possible way this can be understood.

It is the Taliban and the like, who understand the Koran as Mohammed intended! For centuries, the Koran has been interpreted the Taliban way. It is the fundamentalists who act morally with regard to their Holy Scripture. This must be made clear to the public. Once this is understood, anyone may examine the source of the Koran's authority and compare it with that of any other holy scripture. That authority, of course, is faith. Faith can lead to opposite opinions. Because of this, the question may be asked: What value has faith?

The comparison with other religions should not be emphasized initially. People may discover for themselves some parallels with their own religions. For now, the momentum should carry the idea that there is something wrong at the core of Islam. In effect, Islam has invited the relatively free thinking West to enter its Jihad.

57 posted on 06/03/2002 7:59:07 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
The civilization that engineered the sleek, antiseptic, bulky rectangles on the tip of Manhattan island will NOT be able to prevail, in the long run, against it's many enemies. It's too fragile--too rootless.

Au contraire, mi amigo.

The American civilization is rooted in Christianity and its concepts, although political correctness, "inclusion," and "diversity" have severely diluted and eroded that foundation. The United States Consitution and the principles that this country were founded upon are HARDLY fragile or rootless -- they are bedrock principles of truth, and as such will stand the test of time IF ADHERED TO. Its many enemies can succeed in defeating American only if they succeed (further) in moving the nation away from its founding ideals.

58 posted on 06/03/2002 8:32:44 AM PDT by MickMan51
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci; skypilot
That tiny Church was, ST. NICKOLAS GREEK ORTHODOX CHURCH...so glad you mentioned it.
59 posted on 06/03/2002 8:00:53 PM PDT by crazykatz
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To: Heuristic Hiker
Another Bernard Lewis ping for you.
60 posted on 06/04/2002 5:52:27 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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