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Mexicans, Legal & Illegal, Transform USA
National Anxiety Center ^ | May 29, 2002 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 05/29/2002 2:42:12 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

The 2000 Census revealed that, in at least 13 States surveyed to date, more US residents are speaking Spanish at home. Not English. This is the result of nation’s growing Hispanic population throughout the 1990s. It has risen an astonishing 58 percent to 35.3 million.

In some places such as California, native-born English-speaking business owners are taking Spanish lessons or hiring bilingual employees. Speaking Spanish at home is fine with me, but taking it out to the larger community and, in effect, requiring that it too speak Spanish is just dead wrong. A common language binds Americans to one another. Two languages in the same nation creates two separate communities.

The flow of illegal aliens from Mexico and nations further south is a virtual torrent. In the first six months of this year, the US Border Patrol apprehended 176,655 illegal aliens in just the 21-mile Douglas, Arizona, section alone! The same individual may be apprehended more than once and the Border Patrol estimates that, for every one that is caught, three to five are not! Since 1983, at least a half-million illegal aliens have entered the US from our southern border.

A study by the non-profit Center for Immigration Studies confirms that "annual immigration in 2030 will still approach 400,000 a year, 8.3 to 11.4 percent higher than the 370,000 estimated for 2000." The Mexican-born population of the United States will double to 18 million by the year 2030. There is a powerful incentive for this because, in the last decade, Mexican immigrants sent more than $45 billion to their relatives. In 2000, they sent $6 billion or about $17 million a day!

Federal investigators recently revealed that "tens of thousands of foreigners are illegally obtaining Social Security numbers by using fake documents involving identity theft and other crimes. Federal officials have not yet found a way to search US immigration records to prevent the practice. Using the Social Security identification, the next step is to secure credit cards and even security clearances that permit illegal aliens to work in sensitive areas such as airports. In 200l, the Social Security Administration issued 5.8 million numbers, including 1.5 million to non-citizens.

On May 5th, both the Washington Post and Washington Times reported that the families of eleven illegal immigrants who died while attempting to enter the United States had filed a $41 million lawsuit against two federal agencies. Allow me to provide my standard disclaimer. I do not dislike Mexicans. I don’t even know a Mexican. If a Mexican has come here legally and become an American citizen, bravo! I have no problem with that, but the notion that the United States should be sued because it did not tend to the needs of those entering illegally is just nuts!

According to them, the failure of the United States, specifically the Department of Interior and the US Fish and Wildlife Service, to provide water to Mexicans trying to sneak into America, was the reason they died. Their bodies were found last year in the Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge between Tucson and Yuma. That area was being used because, say the attorneys for the families, the US Border Patrol has effectively shut down more populous portions of the Arizona border, thereby forcing illegal aliens to come in through more remote areas.

Well, it should be obvious that the US is to blame, right? Why should we stop at providing water in a desolate desert where ground temperatures can exceed 130 degrees in the summer? Why not a fulltime bus service? Or chauffeured limousines? This Mexican version of an Alice in Wonderland approach to illegal immigration is why, in 1997, according to the Immigration and Naturalization Service, 54% of all illegal immigrants coming into the US were Mexicans.

Could this be because elements of the Mexican government are carrying out a strategic depopulation program, centered around approximately ninety communities in central and southern Mexico? Some informed sources believe this to be the case. Making matters worse, according to Rep. Tom Tancredo (CO-R), since 1996 there have been 118 incursions across the border into the US; 61 by Mexican military and 57 by Mexican law enforcement. At least 60% of the time, the Mexicans were armed. Sometimes US Border guards come under fire.

The INS estimates that, in the past three years, more than a thousand migrants have died of various causes trying to enter the United States illegally. Their deaths, each one of them, were a tragedy, but it seems to me that it is a greater tragedy that Mexico does nothing to stem this human traffic. Maybe if Mexico took steps to improve its economy and provide jobs for its people, they would be working in Mexico instead of sneaking across the border?

And maybe President Bush’s enthusiastic support for yet another amnesty program for illegal aliens is one of the dumbest ideas he’s ever had? We are talking about adding another 200,000 illegal Mexican immigrants to the population. That’s equivalent to adding a city the size of Baton Rouge, Bakersfield or Mobile. All this does is say to Mexicans that, if they can get into the US, they have a fair chance of going to the head of the line when the next amnesty comes. No need to apply for citizenship like others do. No need to come here, get a Green Card, and earn the right to be a citizen. Just sneak across the border.

Our immigration policies are so stupid that the House Judiciary Committee recently voted out Rep. Barney Frank’s HR 1452, misnamed the Family Reunion Act, but in fact is legislation that would permit foreign criminals to stay in this country! It has 52 sponsors, most of whom are from the far Left of the Democrat Party, but that is not a long distance to traverse. The bill would erase the reforms achieved in the landmark 1996 immigration law requiring that, after serving their prison sentence here, they get deported.

This is why, at current rates, between legal and illegal immigration into this nation, we will double our population within the lifetimes of today’s college students.

In the last decade, the 11.2 million immigrants who arrived, plus the 6.4 million children born to immigrants living here, equaled almost 70% of the nation’s population growth. That’s just flat-out too much, too fast.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: amnesty; assimilation; aztlan; balkanization; bilingualism; border; immigrantlist; immigration; ins; mexico; reconquista
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To: Marine Inspector; Tancredo Fan; Sabertooth; Joe Hadenuf; twodees; Don Myers; Janetgreen...
I wish I had time to deal with your entire answer, now. The most obvious mis-communication is over the 50% of the California/Mexico border that's impassable by foot.

The object of building walls is to keep Illegals, terrorists, other criminals, drugs smugglers, etc. from crossing the border and getting to L.A., Dallas, Phoenix, Chicago, Detroit, New York, etc., not out of the canyon. We're not building a wall for the sake of building a wall, for Pete's sake. ;^)

If the natural terrain makes it impassable enough by illegals, etc. then we don't need to build a wall, there.

Sounds like the cost of building walls along our borders just got alot CHEAPER!

61 posted on 05/30/2002 9:43:26 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: Brownie74, tancredo fan,thebattman;travelgirl;pulaskibush;freethesouth...
This is from the Border Governor's Annual Conference in Tijuana in 1999.

Hull's Guest Worker Proposal Gains Support

NR 99:65

(TIJUANA, Baja Mexico . Sept. 10, 1999) Governor Jane Dee Hull today said her proposal for a more effective "guest worker" program is beginning to gain support from key officials.

Governor Hull discussed her proposal with governors attending the biannual meeting of the Border Governors Conference held in Tijuana, Baja California. The members of the Conference will put the proposal on the agenda of their next meeting.

"I'm pleased people are beginning to consider this proposal, especially here in the Southwest. The more support we can gain here, the better we can make the case to Washington. After all, it is the federal government that would implement the proposal," Governor Hull said.

Governor Hull also has written a letter asking key federal officials to consider the proposal. New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson signed the letter while in Tijuana. Texas Governor George W. Bush, who was unable to attend the conference, has indicated he supports the proposal. Members of his staff at the conference agreed to deliver it to Governor Bush for his signature.

Governor Hull is calling for a reformed guest worker program that would allow foreign nationals to obtain temporary permits in certain job classifications, including seasonal staff in agriculture, tourism and custodial services. These industries currently are experiencing severe labor shortages. At the same time, the proposal would significantly increase the penalties for employers who fail to comply with the law.

Any reforms also should include protection of the human rights of those workers, the Governor said. Issues of housing, health care and transportation must be addressed, Hull said.

"We need to match workers looking for jobs with jobs going unfilled. A revamped program would let people who want jobs to earn a living legitimately, while assuring that their rights are recognized," Governor Hull said.

Hull has volunteered Arizona as the site of a pilot project testing a revised and expanded guest worker program.

The letter on the proposal reads:

"On behalf of the United States-Mexico border states we write to express our continued support for the expansion and simplification of the current H-2 visa program for temporary workers. It is our firm belief that the H-2 system should be reformed in a way that will efficiently respond to the growing demand for labor in the agriculture and service industries."

"We understand that you have taken a leadership role on this important issue, and stand ready to support you in your efforts. As border governors, we have an in-depth understanding of the complexity of immigration and labor issues. One of the main reasons we support an expansion and simplification of the H-2 non-immigrant work program is to enable the United Sates to compete in a global marketplace. Without an available labor pool, our industries suffer or are forced to re-locate out of the United States."

"Due to the cumbersome nature of the existing program, employers are routinely looking for foreign labor outside of the program. Extensive administrative requirements, paperwork and regulations characterize the current H-2 guest labor program. We believe that an effective guest labor program would provide a reliable, expedient system in which employers can contract guest workers."

"We applaud your commitment to working to reform the H-2A program. You have our support in any effort to establish an effective guest labor program that would provide a new system that would directly respond to labor shortages, and ultimately increase the efficiency and competitiveness of our valuable industries."

Governor Hull and other governors from border states of the United States and Mexico attended a two-day meeting of the Border Governors Conference in Tijuana.

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62 posted on 05/30/2002 9:48:04 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
Hull's Guest Worker Proposal Gains Support

Guest worker programs don't work because the guest workers always forget to go home and our government won't enforce the laws and round them up and deport them. Just seal the borders.

63 posted on 05/30/2002 9:56:30 AM PDT by Brownie74
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To: madfly
These politicians are so out of touch with their constituents on this issue it makes me wonder if we're on the same planet as these people.

What do they plan to do with any "guest worker" who has a baby here? What are they going to do with employers who use it in a fraudulent way to displace American workers? If the Governor doesn't think that's happening right now with the H1-B program she's on some kind illegal substance. And are the laws on the books to prevent abuses being enforced? I don't think so. So what makes her think anymore new laws will be?

We need to make it clear to all politicians, including those who want to be- you either start looking out for OUR interests instead of everyone else's in the world, or you'll be greeted with one response- don't call us, we'll call you.

64 posted on 05/30/2002 10:07:53 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Brownie74
Anyone that votes for Bush in 2004 deserves what they get.

I hope we last that long. At this rate that's a bit doubtful. I heard a while ago that only 585 'absconders' had been caught in months... that's out of how many hundreds of thousands? The INS is a disaster, the FBI is a disaster, the military isn't on the border, the U.S. treasurer is conspiring with a foreign power to get more money out of the country, we're about to be flooded with tens of thousands of rickety, uninspect big-rigs from a country that is invading us and is corrupt to the core, and on and on. It can only get worse.

65 posted on 05/30/2002 10:09:17 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
These politicians are so out of touch with their constituents on this issue it makes me wonder if we're on the same planet as these people.

I find it hard to believe that our representatives don't know the score regarding this immigration "free for all". I suspect it's just not in the plan, not part of the agenda to have secure, controllable, immigrations policies and borders, for a number of reasons. Lets face it, if it were, this immigration disaster would have never spun so out of control as it has. In my estimate, this titanic invasion of illegals alone, is into its 20th year. This is nothing new to anyone that's coherent.

66 posted on 05/30/2002 10:19:07 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Amerigomag
all you have to do is look at what they have done to the west side of Indy. They are invading by the millions, reproducing like cockroaches, and signing up for social services as fast as they find the welfare office, which we conveniently use tax dollars to teach the welfare people spanish, as not to impeed the flow of tax dollars to the new underclass......
67 posted on 05/30/2002 10:21:44 AM PDT by Capt.YankeeMike
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
We need to make it clear to all politicians, including those who want to be- you either start looking out for OUR interests instead of everyone else's in the world, or you'll be greeted with one response- don't call us, we'll call you.

Bravo!

68 posted on 05/30/2002 10:23:36 AM PDT by madfly
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To: Tancredo Fan
The INS is a disaster, the FBI is a disaster, the military isn't on the border, the U.S. treasurer is conspiring with a foreign power to get more money out of the country, we're about to be flooded with tens of thousands of rickety, uninspect big-rigs from a country that is invading us and is corrupt to the core, and on and on. It can only get worse.

To put it simply, the entire bureaucratic, government monster has lost its way.

69 posted on 05/30/2002 10:23:39 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Capt.YankeeMike
all you have to do is look at what they have done to the west side of Indy. They are invading by the millions, reproducing like cockroaches, and signing up for social services as fast as they find the welfare office

Indiana?

70 posted on 05/30/2002 10:24:59 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Indiana?

Stumped me to, lol!

71 posted on 05/30/2002 10:28:53 AM PDT by madfly
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
I totally disagree with your analysis of the wall. A 30-foot wall could be built and maintained with fewer personnel than a "wall of guards."

Most of the border region is unsuitable terrain for building a 30-foot high concrete wall on.

You say the people will destroy the wall if not guarded.

He's quite correct.

It WILL be watched with cameras.

Care to guess what the first pieces of the wall to be destroyed will be?

What are the people going to bring with them out into the desert to use to break down this steel-reinforced concrete wall?

They don't need to attack the wall itself--they merely need to (a) disable a lot of cameras and (b) dig out enough soil from UNDER the wall to make a section collapse under its own weight. Those in the coastal regions of Mexico can merely go AROUND the wall on a boat or ship and swim ashore.

A section of border wall is already in use in California. It has forced border-jumpers to go elsewhere.

Only because it is easier to do so. The wall of guards had exactly the same effect.

The 30-foot concrete wall makes a great

72 posted on 05/30/2002 10:31:30 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Two politicians in Michigan- Spencer Abraham and Dick Chrysler were defeated with immigration as an issue in their campaigns. I don't like to see Republicans lose because the democrats are even worse. But when it comes to immigration I don't care what party they're in, if they don't do what's in the best interest of the country, throw 'em out. It's all they understand.
73 posted on 05/30/2002 10:33:07 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"but the notion that the United States should be sued because it did not tend to the needs of those entering illegally is just nuts! "

You got that right. It's like sueing a bank because they don't provide get-away cars for the crooks.
Like you stated, if they enter this Country legally and study to become U.S. citizens and work for a living I have no problem. Its the illegal ones that get me mad as hell. They come over here and become nothing more than parasites that cost Americans billions and billions.

I say not only put up a fence but a triple fence with mines in the first set and dogs in the second.

74 posted on 05/30/2002 10:34:28 AM PDT by Mikey
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To: Tancredo Fan
It ain't a very rosy picture is it?
75 posted on 05/30/2002 10:35:43 AM PDT by Brownie74
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
We need to make it clear to all politicians, including those who want to be- you either start looking out for OUR interests instead of everyone else's in the world, or you'll be greeted with one response- don't call us, we'll call you.

Yes, but at some point, due to this very issue, our votes will be compromised. It will come to that if our representatives continue to hide from this rapidly escalating issue.

76 posted on 05/30/2002 10:36:06 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Two politicians in Michigan- Spencer Abraham and Dick Chrysler were defeated with immigration as an issue in their campaigns.

Correlation is not causation.

77 posted on 05/30/2002 11:01:06 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
Correlation is not causation.

If only 1 or 2% vote on a candidate's immigration record, as was the case with those two sellouts in Michigan, it can be enough to swing an election. And both campaigns are related in this sense: enough people felt the two clowns were paying more attention to Wall Street's interest than theirs.

78 posted on 05/30/2002 11:44:32 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: madfly
It will not work for all the reasons stated here. What is missing is not a wall it is a will to enforce the laws that are on our books..If needed make them more harsh...Prison terms for second time offenders...life for third..

These prisioners could then be put on work projects in the states.. ( like picking lettace) with they pay going to the state for room and board,...

79 posted on 05/30/2002 11:55:45 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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