Posted on 05/29/2002 2:42:12 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
The object of building walls is to keep Illegals, terrorists, other criminals, drugs smugglers, etc. from crossing the border and getting to L.A., Dallas, Phoenix, Chicago, Detroit, New York, etc., not out of the canyon. We're not building a wall for the sake of building a wall, for Pete's sake. ;^)
If the natural terrain makes it impassable enough by illegals, etc. then we don't need to build a wall, there.
Sounds like the cost of building walls along our borders just got alot CHEAPER!
Hull's Guest Worker Proposal Gains Support
NR 99:65
(TIJUANA, Baja Mexico . Sept. 10, 1999) Governor Jane Dee Hull today said her proposal for a more effective "guest worker" program is beginning to gain support from key officials.
Governor Hull discussed her proposal with governors attending the biannual meeting of the Border Governors Conference held in Tijuana, Baja California. The members of the Conference will put the proposal on the agenda of their next meeting.
"I'm pleased people are beginning to consider this proposal, especially here in the Southwest. The more support we can gain here, the better we can make the case to Washington. After all, it is the federal government that would implement the proposal," Governor Hull said.
Governor Hull also has written a letter asking key federal officials to consider the proposal. New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson signed the letter while in Tijuana. Texas Governor George W. Bush, who was unable to attend the conference, has indicated he supports the proposal. Members of his staff at the conference agreed to deliver it to Governor Bush for his signature.
Governor Hull is calling for a reformed guest worker program that would allow foreign nationals to obtain temporary permits in certain job classifications, including seasonal staff in agriculture, tourism and custodial services. These industries currently are experiencing severe labor shortages. At the same time, the proposal would significantly increase the penalties for employers who fail to comply with the law.
Any reforms also should include protection of the human rights of those workers, the Governor said. Issues of housing, health care and transportation must be addressed, Hull said.
"We need to match workers looking for jobs with jobs going unfilled. A revamped program would let people who want jobs to earn a living legitimately, while assuring that their rights are recognized," Governor Hull said.
Hull has volunteered Arizona as the site of a pilot project testing a revised and expanded guest worker program.
The letter on the proposal reads:
"On behalf of the United States-Mexico border states we write to express our continued support for the expansion and simplification of the current H-2 visa program for temporary workers. It is our firm belief that the H-2 system should be reformed in a way that will efficiently respond to the growing demand for labor in the agriculture and service industries."
"We understand that you have taken a leadership role on this important issue, and stand ready to support you in your efforts. As border governors, we have an in-depth understanding of the complexity of immigration and labor issues. One of the main reasons we support an expansion and simplification of the H-2 non-immigrant work program is to enable the United Sates to compete in a global marketplace. Without an available labor pool, our industries suffer or are forced to re-locate out of the United States."
"Due to the cumbersome nature of the existing program, employers are routinely looking for foreign labor outside of the program. Extensive administrative requirements, paperwork and regulations characterize the current H-2 guest labor program. We believe that an effective guest labor program would provide a reliable, expedient system in which employers can contract guest workers."
"We applaud your commitment to working to reform the H-2A program. You have our support in any effort to establish an effective guest labor program that would provide a new system that would directly respond to labor shortages, and ultimately increase the efficiency and competitiveness of our valuable industries."
Governor Hull and other governors from border states of the United States and Mexico attended a two-day meeting of the Border Governors Conference in Tijuana.
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Guest worker programs don't work because the guest workers always forget to go home and our government won't enforce the laws and round them up and deport them. Just seal the borders.
What do they plan to do with any "guest worker" who has a baby here? What are they going to do with employers who use it in a fraudulent way to displace American workers? If the Governor doesn't think that's happening right now with the H1-B program she's on some kind illegal substance. And are the laws on the books to prevent abuses being enforced? I don't think so. So what makes her think anymore new laws will be?
We need to make it clear to all politicians, including those who want to be- you either start looking out for OUR interests instead of everyone else's in the world, or you'll be greeted with one response- don't call us, we'll call you.
I hope we last that long. At this rate that's a bit doubtful. I heard a while ago that only 585 'absconders' had been caught in months... that's out of how many hundreds of thousands? The INS is a disaster, the FBI is a disaster, the military isn't on the border, the U.S. treasurer is conspiring with a foreign power to get more money out of the country, we're about to be flooded with tens of thousands of rickety, uninspect big-rigs from a country that is invading us and is corrupt to the core, and on and on. It can only get worse.
I find it hard to believe that our representatives don't know the score regarding this immigration "free for all". I suspect it's just not in the plan, not part of the agenda to have secure, controllable, immigrations policies and borders, for a number of reasons. Lets face it, if it were, this immigration disaster would have never spun so out of control as it has. In my estimate, this titanic invasion of illegals alone, is into its 20th year. This is nothing new to anyone that's coherent.
Bravo!
To put it simply, the entire bureaucratic, government monster has lost its way.
Indiana?
Stumped me to, lol!
Most of the border region is unsuitable terrain for building a 30-foot high concrete wall on.
You say the people will destroy the wall if not guarded.
He's quite correct.
It WILL be watched with cameras.
Care to guess what the first pieces of the wall to be destroyed will be?
What are the people going to bring with them out into the desert to use to break down this steel-reinforced concrete wall?
They don't need to attack the wall itself--they merely need to (a) disable a lot of cameras and (b) dig out enough soil from UNDER the wall to make a section collapse under its own weight. Those in the coastal regions of Mexico can merely go AROUND the wall on a boat or ship and swim ashore.
A section of border wall is already in use in California. It has forced border-jumpers to go elsewhere.
Only because it is easier to do so. The wall of guards had exactly the same effect.
The 30-foot concrete wall makes a great
You got that right. It's like sueing a bank because they don't provide get-away cars for the crooks.
Like you stated, if they enter this Country legally and study to become U.S. citizens and work for a living I have no problem. Its the illegal ones that get me mad as hell. They come over here and become nothing more than parasites that cost Americans billions and billions.
I say not only put up a fence but a triple fence with mines in the first set and dogs in the second.
Yes, but at some point, due to this very issue, our votes will be compromised. It will come to that if our representatives continue to hide from this rapidly escalating issue.
Correlation is not causation.
If only 1 or 2% vote on a candidate's immigration record, as was the case with those two sellouts in Michigan, it can be enough to swing an election. And both campaigns are related in this sense: enough people felt the two clowns were paying more attention to Wall Street's interest than theirs.
These prisioners could then be put on work projects in the states.. ( like picking lettace) with they pay going to the state for room and board,...
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