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The UN: Irrelevant & Malignant
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| May 29, 2002
| Alan Caruba
Posted on 05/29/2002 12:42:26 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen
The United States with a population in excess of 287 million people has one vote in the United Nations General Assembly. There are 188 other members. Right and some people weigh 3-4 times as much as others and yet they pay the same price for a plane or a bus ticket. Not to mention that they only get to vote once.
This is not a good argument. I don't assume that the author would propose that China had 4 times more votes than we do. Remeber, only 5 nations are part of the Security Council and each of them can veto anthing she wants.
To: Stand Watch Listen
I don't know if the problem of small nations having a vote in the UN General Assembly is all that significant. Since the UN can't do much without the vote of the Security Council, the population issue of the General Assembly isn't much of a problem, any more than it is for the U.S. Senate (whose power is tempered by the House and the other 2 branches of government).
China has over a billion people, but giving its government, a dictatorship, a vote in any body is obscene, and calls into question the votes of that body. Tiny Lichtenstein, however, deserves a vote, as its government does not stay in power through murder and intimidation.
To: Stand Watch Listen
The United Nations Wants to Take Your Gun!
To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
How about if votes were done by economic prowess? IE: The US with it's $10,000,000,000,000 economy would weigh far more heavily than any other nation.
Anything less than this is unacceptable...uhh...forget it, we should simply leave the UN and then kick the UN outta NY and wherever else they are infesting America.
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posted on
05/29/2002 1:50:09 PM PDT
by
xrp
To: xrp
Again, we, the Chinese, Russians, Brits and Frenchies can veto anything we want. East Timor can't do that and never will.
To: Stand Watch Listen
How is the UN supposed to stop a war, when it CAN'T EVEN DELIVER A FRIGGIN SACK OF RICE to a starving Somali??? Shut 'em down, and evict 'em from NY.
To: Stand Watch Listen
The UN is dominated by socialists and to a lesser extent, by Islamic states. I would like to see Bush form a new international organization to promote freedom and democracy around the world. It could be called, the Alliance of Free and Sovereign States. The US would be the sole founding member and would grant entry to any country which demonstrates certain minimum levels of civil rights, free markets and democratically elected governments. Every country in the world would hate it, but they would be falling over each other to gain membership. It would soon eclipse NATO, NAFTA, WTO, and the EU and would make the UN irrelevant. The key to making it work would be strict adherence to national sovereignty, and this would mean any nation would be free to withdraw at anytime to avoid the appearance and charge of American neo-colonialism. The new Alliance would simply be an extension of GWs now famous line in the sand, "You are either with us or you are with the terrorists." Let Pax Americana begin.
To: Stand Watch Listen
The real power is in the UN Security Council, composed of permanent members, Great Britain, France, China, Russia, and the United States. All of them, except the US, are Socialist/Communist nations. It is irritating enough that the author thinks one-nation one-vote
in the General Assemby constitutes some sort of 'news.' But to
call all nations on the Security Council socialist/communist except
for the US is of such enormity as to embarrass a stone monkey.
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posted on
05/29/2002 6:33:07 PM PDT
by
gcruse
To: Stand Watch Listen
"the UN is totally devoted to transforming itself into a global government, essentially ending the sovereignty of all member and non-member nations through a matrix of treaties, conferences, and protocols. The UN has its hand in all aspects of life on Earth from trade to the environment. It wants the right to tax everyone, to have its own judicial system, and its own military capability. If it has its way, you will be saluting the UN flag, not the Stars and Stripes."
BTTT Bears repeating for the little good it will do. People just do not want to face reality.
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posted on
05/29/2002 10:37:56 PM PDT
by
brat
To: Stand Watch Listen
The UN is an organization that is seeking to destroy our national sovereignty, and will use any means neccessary to do so.
They undermine our Constitution, change our national landmarks such as Liberty Hall and the Liberty Bell into "World Herritage" sites, and seek to make us vulnerable by transferring our military to their command.
Why do you think Mike New is in as much trouble as he is right now? He refused to serve under a flag that wasn't his.
The UN is the biggest embodyment of evil in our world today.
To: DWPittelli
the population issue of the General Assembly isn't much of a problem, any more than it is for the U.S. SenateThe Senate was designed to give small population states a disproportionate share of the vote. That's because ...
(whose power is tempered by the House and the other 2 branches of government).
The General Assembly is broken by design. To be fair, its power should be tempered by at least two other bodies, one based on population and the other based on GDP. Actually, I'm not particularly interested in trying to fix the UN and I wish the US would withdraw from it.
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posted on
05/30/2002 12:45:39 AM PDT
by
altair
To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Right and some people weigh 3-4 times as much as others and yet they pay the same price for a plane or a bus ticket.This will change as the War on Fat progresses. A 300 pound person costs as much to carry in fuel as two 150 pound people, but they pay twice the fare. This is analogous to the cigarette taxes justified by public health care costs.
Not to mention that they only get to vote once.
That's a different issue. I believe the franchise should be granted only to taxpayers and prorated based upon the amount of tax paid (ie. a taxpayer paying $100,000 gets more votes than a taxpayer paying $10,000).
From the article: Tuvalu (10,836). This is the same Tuvalu that is attempting to sue the western world over global warming.
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posted on
05/30/2002 12:55:54 AM PDT
by
altair
To: Tom Jefferson; backhoe; Militiaman7; BARLF; timestax; imintrouble; cake_crumb; Brad's Gramma...
No one seems too upset by this, except of course, those of us who keep calling for the complete withdrawal by the US from the UN. This perfectly sane response to what is clearly an evil organization invariably earns us the knee-jerk nomenclature of "extreme right wingers." Well, here we go, visit these sites to GET US OUT OF THE UN!!!
Link and petition here
Link and petition here
Link here
To: knighthawk
Thanks for the ping.
I hate the U.N.!!!
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posted on
05/31/2002 7:06:09 PM PDT
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lakey
To: knighthawk
bump
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06/02/2002 9:36:32 AM PDT
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timestax
To: lakey
BUMP
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posted on
06/23/2002 9:22:28 PM PDT
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timestax
To: Stand Watch Listen
bump
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07/08/2002 3:48:03 AM PDT
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timestax
To: timestax
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posted on
07/09/2002 3:56:14 PM PDT
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timestax
To: Stand Watch Listen
GET THE USA OUT OF THE UN
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