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Cokie's Kooky Kops
Sierra Times ^ | Ted Lang

Posted on 05/29/2002 11:41:54 AM PDT by Sir Gawain

Cokie’s Kooky Kops
By Ted Lang
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Published 05. 28. 02 at 21:34 Sierra Time

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Another example has surfaced with the discovery of Chandra Levy’s remains, confirming once again the astonishing lunacy of security-seeking, freedom-trading twits who continuously howl and whine that their opinion should override the Constitution. Demanding that others be deprived of their right to self and family defense, they clamor that only the police and military be allowed firearms, thereby assuring the police state that will follow.

ABC’s Cokie Roberts revealed herself as a staggering tower of intellect when proclaiming how frightened she would be if a pilot with a gun started running around the cabin shooting at her and other passengers. George Stephanopolous, her co-anchor and to his credit, pointed out the absurdity of her remark stating that if the pilot was bent on destruction, why wouldn’t he just crash the plane and kill all aboard at once? I wish I could have seen that. I would have loved to have seen the expression on her face when George unleashed this basic common sense.

Obviously, Cokie would prefer that only a Sky Marshall be armed, because he would be "fully trained." Would that include all the time he spends sitting on his assets and doing nothing? And what if the Marshall flips out Coke? If a pilot can be trained to handle an airplane that weighs as much as the Statue of Liberty disconnected from its base, why couldn’t he be trained to carry and operate a one-pound gun? Cokie the genius would take a chance on one Marshall that could conceivably be overpowered in the cabin, rather than an armed pilot and copilot behind a secured door and authorized only to maintain "cockpit integrity."

Since Cokie was obviously born, raised and educated in Rush Limbaugh’s favorite town of Rio Linda [?], she is unaware that all pilots have already been trained to maintain "fuselage integrity" in the event of a crash. That means, trying to put the fuselage between immovable obstacles such as trees or buildings to save human life in such a situation.

Cokie would rather take a chance on this one Sky Marshall than, as civil aviation pilot Neal Boortz puts it, ensuring "a last line of defense." And if Cokie’s proven asinine theories are employed, then she of course would also approve of an Air Force fighter shooting down the plane and killing all aboard, as well as those on the ground, rather than allowing the Constitution’s Bill of Rights to apply.

The blatant stupidity of Cokie Roberts’ and the media’s gun hysteria are major contributory factors to the carnage of 9-11, and lends itself also to understanding how the Leftmedia’s gunphobia caused Bush, Tom "Linus and his Technicolor security blanket" Ridge, and former Waco BATF Executive gunman Tom Magaw, to tell the commercial airline pilots and the American people to go to hell regarding arming pilots. We all recall how the BATF protected us at Waco, resulting in the retaliatory bombing of the Oklahoma City Murrah Building. Joe Farrah of WorldNetDaily pointed out that Magaw issued a warning to BATF agents not to be inside federal buildings immediately before McVey, and others unknown, killed 168 innocent people. No BATF agents, the very targets of McVey’s rage, were in the building.

Where were the police and the United States Government on 9-11 if they are so highly qualified? If they are the only ones qualified in firearms, why couldn’t they protect us? If they couldn’t then, why would we conclude that their incompetence has diminished to the extent of making us all safer now?

How do gub’ment armed agencies and police stack up as the most qualified to carry weapons to protect us? Washington Police Chief Ramsey on Levy’s discovery: "The manner or cause of death is still pending." Huh? Paraphrasing him, MSNBC’s website offered on May 22: "Ramsey said police had searched 1,700 acres of the park last summer and that this particular area was so remote it had not been searched." [Emphasis added.] Obviously, the only killers encountered by these Keystone Kops drop off their victims on the front lawn of the White House.

And now, unbelievably, we have more incompetence from the FBI? My, what a surprise! Tom Ridge proclaims if we arm pilots, "we may have to arm bus drivers next." If memory serves, there have been bus incidents following 9-11. Senator Fritz Hollings proclaims arming pilots is the same as giving passengers machetes! Huh?

Doesn’t this government incompetence, ineptitude, and absurd logic frighten you? It should – it’s all about people control, stupid!



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To: Sir Gawain
Beautiful Rant! Bump!
21 posted on 05/29/2002 12:51:34 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: Arkie2
An aircraft has an instrument called a "G meter" It measures the amount of force applied to the aircraft in "Gs". When you are flying straight and level, lift and gravity are in balance. When you initiate a climb the G meter will register the force being applied in positive Gs. When you initiate a dive a corresponding measurement in negative Gs will be registered. Therefore, a 1 G climb means that you are accelerating upward at twice the rate that gravity is pulling you downward. The same foces apply on a ferris wheel, roller coaster, and Whip the Whip.
22 posted on 05/29/2002 12:52:42 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: Sir Gawain
Rio Linda, CA, just west of SAC. Small tracts of land with what looks like squatter's shacks on them. Lots of horses, goats and chickens. Definately not upscale CA living.
23 posted on 05/29/2002 12:53:06 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
"The Authorities" bump.

Your post 'right on the money'. ;^)

24 posted on 05/29/2002 12:54:34 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Sir Gawain
I would feel more secure if, as the author seems to wish, my security was not dependent on the gun of the guy who is supposed to be inside the cockpit, flying the plane.

I'd rather have a couple of armed sky marshalls on EVERY flight...not just selected ones...we DID "federalize" airport security, did we not??? WELL, baggage handlers aren't exactly the government's forte...but WELL TRAINED, WELL ARMED SOLDIERS ARE.

Keep the cockpit secure, by leaving the pilot to do his job and transport passengers as safely as possible. DO NOT insist that the pilots have to open the damned cocpit door!! It was bad enough oyu people INSISTED od FEDERALIZING airport security in the first place!!!

25 posted on 05/29/2002 12:55:29 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: Young Werther
Sorry to burst your bubble. One G is unaccelerated flight. One gravity is what you experience sitting in your chair or in straight and level flight. Two G's, twice the force of gravity would result from an aggresive pull up or a level 60 degree banked turn. Zero G is accomplished in a push over and that's how the Astronauts train for space. A good basic physics review is apparently in order for you.
26 posted on 05/29/2002 1:05:31 PM PDT by Arkie2
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To: Republicus2001
Bowie.

I have ALWAYS thought Cokie Roberts looked like Bowie. ALWAYS!!

Dan

27 posted on 05/29/2002 1:06:52 PM PDT by BibChr
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To: Sir Gawain
Guns scare me, so you can't have one.
28 posted on 05/29/2002 1:07:02 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: BibChr
actually also kinda a long-haired Jack Nicholson as well!
29 posted on 05/29/2002 1:11:37 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: Sir Gawain
EXCELLENT!
30 posted on 05/29/2002 1:19:11 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Arkie2
Let's see if I understand. When I'm sitting in an aircraft waiting for push back from the terminal, how many Gs is the aircraft experiencing?
31 posted on 05/29/2002 1:19:35 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: Young Werther
One G
32 posted on 05/29/2002 1:23:40 PM PDT by Arkie2
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To: Sir Gawain
Most of these pilots are trained by the military. They've already had training in firearms. Where has Cokie been?
33 posted on 05/29/2002 1:30:41 PM PDT by abclily
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To: Arkie2
Very Good! And when the pilot accelerates down the runway and initiates a 1G climb, what force is the aircraft and occupants experiencing?
34 posted on 05/29/2002 1:30:46 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: Young Werther
Well, if he initiates a one G climb he's going to sail off the end of the runway at which point his passengers are going to experience a many G stop! Even the rotation to climb requires a force slightly higher than one G although you can't feel it. Don't argue with me son, I do this for a living.
35 posted on 05/29/2002 1:34:25 PM PDT by Arkie2
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To: Young Werther
Read the editorial!Use Aircraft Maneuvers To Disable Terrorists
36 posted on 05/29/2002 1:36:29 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: Young Werther
Max accelleration (approx) during takeoff is 0.3 G "backwards" = into your seat back. plus the "usual" 1.0 G down plus the .01-.05 G "up" as the plane lifts .... Add up the vectors, and you get 1.3 some-odd "G" total.

During level flight, 1.0 "G", and no backwards vector. So a net vector of 1.0 G.

To vomit, you climb very steeply (everything is thrust towards the floor at 1.2-1.5 G, then "arc over" and dive down. The parabolic arc the plane takes (first up, then over, then down) "approximates" the parabolic "thrown" force that the objects inside the plane get from the previous rising part of the flight.

So, the "free" objects in the plane (EVERYTHING not tied down!) is thrown "up" then "forward" then "down" and floats as if there was no gravity. Since the plane is moving on that specific trajectory also, you can float in midair ("0" G for about 25 seconds) then you get forced to floor suddenly at the end of the arc.

The curve is difficult to do and takes regular practice. Done improperly, it can also break the airplane. Certainly break people inside from falling/moving loose objects. Might disrupt the hijackers .....

Might not.

But Katie doesn't care. She'd rather shoot the plane down.

37 posted on 05/29/2002 1:48:13 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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To: Young Werther
#1. Your link does not work.

#2. Those manuevers would also affect everyone else on the plane, not to mention possible injuries from flying objects...dumb idea.

#3. If the pilot is not properly trained and/or physically conditioned for G straining manuevers, they would all be screwed anyway.

FYI: I work with current President of the International Academy of Aviation and Space Medicine, who is world renowned for his research in acceleration physiology.

38 posted on 05/29/2002 2:38:48 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Sir Gawain
You have to remember that Cokie's daddy was one of the most "Liberal" Southern Congressmen in the middle years of the last Century. In many respects he was a pioneer of the turncoat variety that has since produced Bill Clinton. Indeed, some people thought that Hale Boggs might be up to more than just Leftwing Democratic politics, but I don't think that that was ever proven.

But Cokie probably grew up with the value system--and "analytic" abilities--that it has taken another generation of NEA propaganda to instill in most American kids.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

39 posted on 05/29/2002 4:36:48 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Young Werther
No...repeat..No commercial airliner has a 'G' meter.
40 posted on 05/29/2002 4:38:14 PM PDT by Don Corleone
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