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CHANDRA KILLING NOT A RANDOM ATTACK: D.C. DETECTIVES
NY Post ^ | May 26, 2002 | NILES LATHEM and ANDY GELLER

Posted on 05/26/2002 1:40:49 AM PDT by stlnative

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:06:34 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

May 26, 2002 -- Investigators believe Chandra Levy was lured to her death by someone she knew or slain by a predator who methodically stalked her, police sources said yesterday.

Evidence collected at the spot where her remains were found points away from her being killed in a random attack while she was jogging, the sources said.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chandra; condit; levy
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To: hoosiermama
all soft tissue/DNA evidence was completely gone WE DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT YET. REMEMBER THER ARE SOME THINGS THEY ARE NOT TELLING US???????

Oh, for some reason I thought that was one thing they DID tell us right off the bat. Maybe it was just the experts/talking heads on FOX that seemed sure there'd be no way to tell if she was pregnant or not with what they had to work with. Are you sure about that?

381 posted on 05/26/2002 6:31:19 PM PDT by MissCalico
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To: ET(end tyranny)
Sandra Lucas is normally in CA. Could she have come with Condit's wife, after Chandra called her on 25th? Another local staffer? Mikey is the driver.
382 posted on 05/26/2002 6:33:49 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
No, some woman whose last name is Rossi? I vaguely recall hearing about her.
383 posted on 05/26/2002 6:34:11 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: hoosiermama
And I would think there would have been some record of him contacting her to set up the arrangements.

That was the question I had. If Levy was looking up the park on the internet for directions, in order to meet Condit, then how did the meeting get arranged? They went over the phone records (both parties) and even a call at a pay phone would have been logged on her incoming record. Of course someone could have hand-delivered a message.

384 posted on 05/26/2002 6:35:00 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: ET(end tyranny)
That would be Susie Rossi. Late 1980s up to maybe 1991.
385 posted on 05/26/2002 6:35:45 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: MissCalico
I thought they stated they have recovered some bones. Wouldn't there still be marrow in the bones capable of producing DNA?
386 posted on 05/26/2002 6:35:50 PM PDT by fightu4it
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To: John Jamieson
You mean for the grand jury? Let me see if I can refind it. The Rossi comment was for different thread, sorry, my mistake.
387 posted on 05/26/2002 6:36:14 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: MissCalico
We've been repeatedly told there are some things they are not telling us. There will still be DNA on clothing and possibly the ground or branches they found under the bones. I think that is why the "Arch. Dig" with anthropologist? We'll see? With all the bad PR, you can bet the DC police are hot to solve this one.
388 posted on 05/26/2002 6:36:15 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: John Jamieson
The grand jury three are: Mike Dayton, Mike Lynch and Randy Groves.
389 posted on 05/26/2002 6:39:58 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: ET(end tyranny)
The other Mike is Mike Lynch. Both Mikey's recieved a $120,000 salary from USG plus another $50k "consulting fee" from Condit's campaigne money. Rossi was the Gary ex-lover that talked about the "cleanup crew" run by a female staffer.
390 posted on 05/26/2002 6:40:15 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: alexandria
I suggested earlier that Condit could have used an anonymous email account like hotmail, sent her a message including some endearment that she would recognize, so she would know it was him.
391 posted on 05/26/2002 6:42:08 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: hoosiermama

One of Condit's other girlfriend, Miss Smith, was on Fox News a few minutes ago. She brought out again the ties she found TIED under his bed. Seemed to try to make a connection between the ties and the knotted leotard found at the remains site.

Girl youre good...incredible what freepers are able to uncover.

Have a question..what was condit wearing in the morning and then in the afternoon..? He would have need to change his clothes after a rendevouz in the park.

Amazing how Condit looks like such a nice guy with that smile. Lord knows what is going on in that perverted head.


392 posted on 05/26/2002 6:42:42 PM PDT by Lady GOP
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To: All,
Very interesting theories! Here’s how I believe it went down:

Chandra makes a fatal mistake: believing the lies. She becomes obsessed with her fantasy of becoming his wife, having his children. He realizes this and decides the time has come to end it with her.

Shortly before May 1, he beaks it gently to Chandra – by now he’s a seasoned breaker-upper. But he underestimates Chandra's reaction. She is way too invested in her fantasy and cannot accept losing what she believes to be a passionate love affair. She becomes hysterical. She is devastates and desperate. She makes wild threats, among which is the threat to expose his kinky and/or homosexual private life to the media. He doesn't care a whit about hurting his wife, but he DOES care about damaging himself and his career. He seethes in silence.

He spends a couple days thinking, realizing that his career and financial future will certainly be destroyed should Chandra actually carry through with her threats, and concludes that there is only one solution – Chandra must be permanently silenced.

He hatches a plan to do the job himself and tell no one, and to make it look as though she was attacked while jogging in the park. But to get her into the park, he must regain her trust. He calls, tells her he’s come to his senses, and realizes he can’t live without her. Etc. etc. To celebrate this realization, they will go off with her to France together – a couple weeks alone, just the two of them, as soon as congress adjourns for the summer. She’s ecstatic. She now has “big news” to tell her aunt Linda.

Chandra is almost ecstatic but for one detail: wifey has come to town for the luncheon. She knows he will not be sleep with his wife (because he said so), but just the same it makes her very anxious just knowing there’s another woman in his apartment with him.

He has told her he’d call her sometime on May 1 and let her know when and where they can secretly meet. The wait is agonizing; she leaves message and after message. Finally, he calls. He has a couple free hours. They can’t go to his apartment for obvious reasons, but he’ll pick her up and take her to Klingle Mansion. They’ll grab some ice cream on the way. He’ll wear one of his many disguises, and she’ll dress like a jogger so as not to attract attention in the park. Once again, she’s high on love.

She decides to take a blanket along – she assumes there’ll be some “activity” on the ground. When she begins get into the car, he says she may not take the blanket, and she obediently runs back to her apartment, opens the door, and tosses it in.

Once in the park, she’s let out of the car at some location in the park, and he parks the car in another location. They walk separately and meet at the designated location – Klingle Mansion. He suggests a roll in the grass and she agrees with anything he suggests – including to let him tie her up. They walk until they find an out-of-the-way area for privacy – one of the steps on the slope is perfect. After she’s tied up, he knocks her unconscious with a rock. He then does whatever is necessary to make sure she’s dead, covers her body with leaves and brush, and calmly walks back to where he parked. He drives home, takes a shower, and gets to his next appointment in a timely manner.

Nobody tells because nobody knows. He often goes missing for an hour or two during the day, so his staff are not suspicious.

The cops are supposed to find the body and conclude that she was attacked while jogging, but they are too inept. Thus the perfect plan goes awry.

393 posted on 05/26/2002 6:43:30 PM PDT by submarine
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To: Stallone
Condit is the probable killer.

Condit doesn't have the cajones-- he had someone else do it, then he got rid of whatever he had.

394 posted on 05/26/2002 6:44:17 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: ALL
Maybe I'm naive, but I've never been concerned about dying while having sex. Is the SM stuff really that dangerous?
I can hear him now. "Just one last time, for old times sake."
395 posted on 05/26/2002 6:44:26 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: fightu4it
I thought they stated they have recovered some bones. Wouldn't there still be marrow in the bones capable of producing DNA?

Apparently they need soft tissue from the pelvic area or samples of blood to tell if she was pregnant although DNA is retrievable. (according to the Doc they had on Foxnews)

396 posted on 05/26/2002 6:47:55 PM PDT by MissCalico
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Again, from the Sacbee article today ... "We're confident that Chandra did not walk over to that park, fall down that hill and die," Levy family attorney, Billy Martin, said.

Disclosures ... can complicate efforts to nail down details. Fox News ... anonymous sources.. "pieces of common laundry rope" were found with Levy remains ... which is a different scenerio than the Post account of "knotted stretch leggings."

Washington police say they want to talk to the man (convicted of two assaults) now in a North Carolina prison, but have not characterized it as a "hot lead."

397 posted on 05/26/2002 6:48:34 PM PDT by Pegita
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To: ET(end tyranny)
Who's Randy Grove; don't think I've run into that unless he's Chandra's friend or boss? Also brought to DC by Condit?

People just don't realize how long Gary and Chandra were lovers (they meet when she was in high school), the doctor, the FBI guy were all Gary, or how he controlled every aspect of her life, school and career.

398 posted on 05/26/2002 6:49:05 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: goody2shooz
Now if only the Washington D.C. homocide detectives can finger the b*$&ard who murdered her.

Oh, they know who did it. Now why they're afraid of a lame-duck Congressman from Modesto, California who has a penchant for screwing around with gay leather-clad biker types is beyond me.

They know where he is Mon - Fri, and where his Congressional office is.

What's the hold-up?

399 posted on 05/26/2002 6:50:31 PM PDT by usconservative
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To: submarine
Agree with your senario except for one thing. Way back in the summer when the ties were first mentioned by Miss Smith, someone reported that he liked to use the ties..... "strangling" during sex hightened the enjoyment. I think she agreed to the "same ol ...same ol" only this time he tightened the leotard. That explains the knot found in it.
400 posted on 05/26/2002 6:51:58 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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