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ILLINOIS COUNCIL AGAINST HANDGUN VIOLENCE CALLS FOR SWEEPING REFORMS TO ILLINOIS GUN LAWS
Illinois State Rifle Assoc E Mail ^ | 5-21-02

Posted on 05/21/2002 9:20:58 AM PDT by SJackson

ILLINOIS COUNCIL AGAINST HANDGUN VIOLENCE CALLS FOR SWEEPING REFORMS TO ILLINOIS GUN LAWS

CHICAGO, May 21, 2002 - - Citing a recent high-profile murder, the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence is recommending that the Illinois General Assembly make immediate and sweeping reforms to the state's gun laws.

On May 3, 2002, a 33-year-old Chicago woman was murdered in her home by her estranged husband. Despite the fact that a restraining order had been sworn out against him, the victim's assailant kicked down her door and shot her to death in her bedroom.

The murder was made all the more tragic by the fact that the victim had placed 3 frantic calls to 911 in the minutes before her murder. Inexplicably, the Chicago Police Department delayed in responding to the calls until well after the victim was dead.

For many years, various groups have pushed the notion that it is better for citizens to rely on the government for protection from criminals than it is for them to keep guns in their homes.

The May 3rd tragedy points to the shortsightedness of that philosophy. The victim in this case followed all 'the rules' by first securing a restraining order against her assailant. Then, when he violated that court order, she again followed 'the rules' and called 911. Unfortunately, the consequence of her trusting the system is that she is now dead.

In response to the tragedy, the City of Chicago offered copious apologies and suspended several low-level employees.

Apologies and employee suspensions are not the cure for criminal violence. Rather, this case illustrates the pressing need to empower Illinois citizens so that they might effectively defend themselves against the criminal element.

Specifically, the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence is calling upon the Illinois General Assembly to do the following:

- Immediately reconsider SB 604. If it had passed earlier this year, SB 604 would have provided an extra level of protection to women who, like the May 3rd victim, had sworn out orders of protection against violent males. Under SB 604, such women would have been allowed to carry defensive firearms just in case their tormentors ignored the restraining orders.

- Immediately pass HB 482 - statewide firearm preemption legislation. Firearm preemption would overrule the Chicago ordinance that denied the May 3rd victim the choice of whether or not to keep a firearm in her home to protect herself from her violent spouse.

- Immediately pass HB 401, the Family and Personal Protection Act. The Family and Personal Protection Act would allow qualified Illinois citizens to carry defensive firearms for the purpose of protecting themselves and their loved ones from criminal violence.

The May 3rd victim did not deserve to die. But, the politics of gun control made her death a near certainty.

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ICHV educates the public about the epidemic of handgun violence victims and works to reduce death and injury by increasing the accessibility of firearms for self-defense in our society.

CONTACT: Alison Barkley, Esq., Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence, (847) 425-6103


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To: absalom01
I don't think that the intention was to fool anyone -- it's called taking the battle to the enemy. Just my 2c, this is great news.

Of course we don't know the facts for sure yet, but assuming this version is true, I'd agree it's a great dirty trick.

Unfortunately the ISRA tricked me by presenting it to me, a proponent of gun rights, as a change of policy, confirmed by the ICHV, without disclosing that the ICHV was them.

If I'd used this "change of heart" of the ICHV in an arguement, I would have destroyed my credibility.

Dirty tricks are OK, but you shouldn't make your friends your victim.

41 posted on 05/22/2002 6:45:35 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
You should look at it this way. The former ICHV was negligent by forgetting to file their annual fees. If a gunshop owner had forgotten to cross a T or dot an I, they may find themselves in jail because of the same laws that the former ICHV supports. This change in management is exactly what happened. The former ICHV doesn't exist anymore and is a partner with the pro-gun Illinois State Rifle Association. This is better news than if the former ICHV had a "change of heart" which we know isn't going to happen anymore than the dem party is going to stop supporting gun control. By the way, this tactic was already used in Minnesota by the pro-gun people. I hope they can start cashing those checks.
42 posted on 05/22/2002 7:23:30 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: SJackson
To SJackson

What is the difference between ISRA and I$RA??

43 posted on 05/22/2002 8:39:53 AM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
What is the difference between ISRA and I$RA??

Don't know. Someone refered to them using the dollar sign instead of the S, which was why I asked.

44 posted on 05/22/2002 9:12:23 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
If I'd used this "change of heart" of the ICHV in an arguement, I would have destroyed my credibility.

But that's not what they've done. Nowhere did they represent this as a "change of heart".

45 posted on 05/22/2002 9:47:17 AM PDT by Dan Day
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To: SJackson
"Prior to the release of the alert, we verified that the press release was authentic and have verified that the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence did release the press item."

I'm going outside to see if there are any pigs flying around. I simply can't believe this :0)

46 posted on 05/22/2002 10:18:44 AM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: Shooter 2.5,Dan Day
You should look at it this way…

This was nothing more that a stunt. Unfortunately as I write this the ICHV seems to be alive and well, operating both their Chicago and Springfield offices under the same name, accepting donations, and advocating gun control.

Look at the E Mail in 12, we verified that the press release was authentic and have verified that the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence did release the press item…We have been told further that more information regarding the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence will be coming out from their spokesman in the next few days.

Verified?????? They wrote it. They're playing games.

As we speak ICHV lobbyists are probably laughing over lunch in Springfield with Daley’s anti-gun forces laughing over what a bunch of bumpkins the pro-gun forces are. I’ll predict that if this makes it into the media, it will be with a harshly anti gun bias and that this “trick” will be used to defuse all the valid arguments to loosen gun laws in Illinois. I hope the media takes a pass. I don’t see any particular good coming from this, and some potential harm.

47 posted on 05/22/2002 10:24:09 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: ScreamingFist
"Prior to the release of the alert, we verified that the press release was authentic and have verified that the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence did release the press item."...I'm going outside to see if there are any pigs flying around. I simply can't believe this :0)

You can stay inside.

See 31, they'll have a legal skirmish over the name. ISRA wrote the release, ICHV is alive and well. Maybe they'll have to change their name, maybe they won't.

IMO, this transparent misinformation isn't helpful when we have the facts on our side.

48 posted on 05/22/2002 10:29:39 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
"IMO, this transparent misinformation isn't helpful when we have the facts on our side."

Agreed. Thanks for the clarification.

49 posted on 05/22/2002 10:40:29 AM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: ScreamingFist
People... I got my super sleuth mojo working and managed to pry this info out of those in the know... 1) The ICHV forgot to keep their corporate registration up with the IL Sec. of State so they were effectively dissolved a few months ago. 2) Some progunners in IL who read about the MINN happenings looked up the ICHV registration and saw that it expired and so they paid the fee themselves and they own the name now. 3) The ISRA was in no way involved in this thing. The ISRA does not own the name of the ICHV. The owners are separate entirely. 4) The new owners gave the ISRA press people that release and they also provided bona fide proof that they owned the name. The ISRA just published the news release. 5) I hear that the ICHV is not partying with Daley. I hear that they are scared to death and don't know which way to turn. 6) This is a serious blow to the antigunner.
50 posted on 05/22/2002 5:15:30 PM PDT by GunSlingerBobby
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To: SJackson
John Birch (no relation to the society) is the President of Concealed Carry Inc. He uses I$RA I suppose because he doesn't think much of who is running the organization.
51 posted on 05/22/2002 9:24:51 PM PDT by Barnacle
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To: GunSlingerBobby
That's great news. Another anti-gun group hasn't been watching their own corporate business. I hope the new owners of ICHV take the time to notify the IRS and the old owners that any tax deductions taken for contributions to the defunct ICHV corporate entity are invalid and subject to taxation. The cost of notifying their invalid donors should drain the rest of the life out of the old organization. As will the tax liability for the income received.
52 posted on 05/23/2002 12:26:22 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: GunSlingerBobby
This is what I suspected when it was originally posted, but I was in a hurry and didn't have time to search for the article posted the other day.

Thanks for the clarification.

53 posted on 05/23/2002 6:39:16 AM PDT by RedWing9
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To: Barnacle
There have been repeated problems with the way the ISRA is being run. The leaders are all "north of I-80" types that are more concerned with keeping their lobbying jobs than supporting downstate gun owners. There is no financial accountability and it is virtually impossible for an outsider to run for office in the organization. As far as I know, the ISRA constitution still has not been provided to members.

I am not renewing my membership this year, I will donate my money to groups that will work for all gunowners in the state.

54 posted on 05/23/2002 12:10:02 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: SJackson
Thanks for the ping, just read this on Paltalk Radio! Great news, didn't know there was legislation pending!
55 posted on 05/23/2002 8:13:46 PM PDT by usconservative
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To: GunSlingerBobby
People... I got my super sleuth mojo working and managed to pry this info out of those in the know... 1) The ICHV forgot to keep their corporate registration up with the IL Sec. of State so they were effectively dissolved a few months ago. 2) Some progunners in IL who read about the MINN happenings looked up the ICHV registration and saw that it expired and so they paid the fee themselves and they own the name now. 3) The ISRA was in no way involved in this thing. The ISRA does not own the name of the ICHV. The owners are separate entirely. 4) The new owners gave the ISRA press people that release and they also provided bona fide proof that they owned the name. The ISRA just published the news release. 5) I hear that the ICHV is not partying with Daley. I hear that they are scared to death and don't know which way to turn. 6) This is a serious blow to the antigunner.

Details per Chicago Sun-Times report in FReeppost *here*

-archy-/-

56 posted on 05/25/2002 1:28:36 PM PDT by archy
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