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Hitler's Early Years Coming to Theaters: APPARENTLY, THIS IS NOT A JOKE
Fox News ^ | Monday, May 20, 2002 | By Roger Friedman

Posted on 05/21/2002 2:50:34 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:33:32 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

This is no joke. Adolf Hitler, the lighter side, the early years, is coming to movie theaters.

It's "Springtime for Hitler" without the jokes or the songs. Or the irony.

Max, a movie written and directed by Menno Meyjes, is scheduled for release on Dec. 27 by Lions Gate Films. The film, which takes place in post-World War I Munich, stars John Cusack as Max Rothman, a German Jewish art dealer who takes a young artist named Adolf Hitler (played by Noah Taylor) under his wing.


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How could anyone sit in on this pitch meeting and not throw up? Hollywood....
1 posted on 05/21/2002 2:50:34 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Cinnamon Girl
The script sounds stupid to me. Cusack is a good actor but not a good thinker. He used to be a big admirer of Noam Chomsky--I don't know whether he still is. It seems to me that these movies (like American History X) which attempt to "understand" fascists always end up falsifying the material because fascists tend to be just stupid, at least insofar as their fascism is concerned.
2 posted on 05/21/2002 3:15:41 AM PDT by noirgirl
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To: abwehr
"the antics of a Austrian rube"

Perhaps with Jon Lovitz in the title role.

4 posted on 05/21/2002 3:46:42 AM PDT by billorites
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To: noirgirl
fascists always end up falsifying the material because fascists tend to be just stupid, at least insofar as their fascism is concerned

This film seems to have little to do with reality. I think I'll just go dig out the recently declassified OSS psychoananysis of Hitler, which looks at his formative years in some detail.

5 posted on 05/21/2002 4:00:21 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: abwehr
You could have an exasperated Prussian Sergeant trying to teach the young Adolf the ways of military life while Hitler screws everything up.

Hey and what if the sergeant were a young future Stalag 13 commandant named Klink? And Shultz could be Hitler's country cousin come to visit.


6 posted on 05/21/2002 4:19:26 AM PDT by SantosLHalper
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To: Cachelot
If it isn't too much trouble, can you post some information on where these recently declassified documents might be accessed?
7 posted on 05/21/2002 4:24:21 AM PDT by screed
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To: Cinnamon Girl
But what may cause concern down the road is its humanizing of Adolf Hitler — the same Hitler who spews hatred specifically directed at Jews.

But that point needs to be made! The main point about the Nuremberg trials was 'the banality of evil'. The Nazis weren't simply bile-hurling demons. They were regular guys, with families and friends and pet dogs, people you might have liked if you'd met them in another context.

People have this vision of Hitler as a madman incapable of civil behavior or rational discourse. They think, "it can't happen here; I certainly don't know anybody like that." People forget that Hitler was swept to power because most people liked him; there must have been some reason they did. By pretending that that wasn't the case, we let our guard down for the next charming monster to come along (and he will).

8 posted on 05/21/2002 4:53:35 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: screed
If it isn't too much trouble, can you post some information on where these recently declassified documents might be accessed?

Here you go. The directory marked "images" is the documents in photocopy form, if I remember.

You'll find that Hitler had quite an odd upbringing. But there's a lot to go through and it's really more than a psychoanalysis. The report originally existed in a few copies, one for the British, one for the Americans, among others - and the American one was "for the President's eyes only", because of the contents bizarreness.

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/ftp.py?people//h/hitler.adolf/oss-papers

9 posted on 05/21/2002 4:57:45 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Physicist
Hannah Arendt bump...
10 posted on 05/21/2002 5:03:00 AM PDT by general_re
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To: abwehr
You could have one titled "Oh Those Nazis!" featuring Hitler, Eva, and the rest of the Hitler gang in amusing and heartwarming situations with Adolf giving some Hitler Youth youngster some good moral advice ala Sheriff Andy Taylor and Opie at the end of each episode. I can see spinoffs and syndication in the future.

Sounds too farfetched? Never say never. Remember "Hogan's Heroes" replete with lovable prison camp guards.

11 posted on 05/21/2002 5:55:18 AM PDT by driftless
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To: Cachelot
There was book that came out many years ago called "The Psychopathic God" (can't remember the author who I think was a psychologist) in which the author tried to claim that all of Hitler's crimes could be traced to his childhood and pre-adult years. According to the author supposedly Hitler witnessed so many horrendous things as a child that it influenced his later evil. My own view is that that notion is a crock and that Hitler did evil things because he was intrinsically evil.
12 posted on 05/21/2002 6:04:12 AM PDT by driftless
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To: driftless
My own view is that that notion is a crock and that Hitler did evil things because he was intrinsically evil.

You are probably both right and wrong. Hitler does indeed seem to have had a very weird life. That doesn't preclude him being intrinsically evil. His evil may even have been inherited - certainly his father Alois seem to have been a nasty sort of critter.

13 posted on 05/21/2002 6:18:31 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Springtime For Hitler and Germany!

14 posted on 05/21/2002 6:28:40 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Sounds kind of like the same metamorphosis we're seeing now in Stars Wars.

We started off with the cute little kid, brave and resourceful, who loves his mother.

Now we have the teenager, rebelling against the establishment, trying to overthrow the government.

Next we'll have Darth Vader, the epitome of evil.

We're shown step by step what shaped his life and changed him into a tyrannt.

15 posted on 05/21/2002 6:46:37 AM PDT by chaosagent
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To: SantosLHalper
And Shultz could be Hitler's country cousin come to visit.

Nope, Schultz would have to be some sort of business type. Before WWII, he owned the biggest toy factory in Germany. (Trivia note: Check the episode where they convinced the Gestapo agent that the war was over)

16 posted on 05/21/2002 7:02:43 AM PDT by Squawk 8888
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To: Cachelot
Thank for the link on nizkor. Didn't know that was there.

Somewhere recently I saw several poems he wrote in WWI, with a sympathetic portrait. Guess he was just a sensative guy gone astray.

Think it's too early for a sypmathetic portrait of the childhood of that poor, misunderstood, neglected rich kid, Osama?

17 posted on 05/21/2002 8:07:37 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: Squawk 8888
Ok then, Gen.Hoffsteder (wasn't he the fat one on HOGAN'S HEROS) could be the SGT.Hacker nemesis to Klink's SGT.Carter, That's why Hoffsteder thinks Klink is a fool. You know this would be a good skit for MAD TV or SNL.
18 posted on 05/21/2002 8:12:48 AM PDT by SantosLHalper
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To: SantosLHalper
Burkhalter (sp?) was the fat Luftwaffe general, Hoffstetter (we need a Bob Crane spellcheck dictionary) was a major in the Gestapo. The major was a bit young to have been in the army in the 20s. How about the Burkhalter as Hitler's mentor, which would go a long way to explaining how such a twit made general? And maybe we could have Hitler do a stint illustrating the catalogues from Schultz's toy factory.
19 posted on 05/21/2002 8:22:56 AM PDT by Squawk 8888
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To: driftless
My own view is that that notion is a crock and that Hitler did evil things because he was intrinsically evil.

He may have been, but that's not obvious to me. I am of the opinion that far more people than we would ever wish to believe would, if given the power Hitler acquired, match or exceed his crimes. And I don't just mean the intrinsically evil people; the congenital brutes are mostly behind bars. I mean the man on the street, the shopkeeper, the business executive, the housewife. There's no telling how someone is going to behave in that situation until he grasps the reins of power.

The only help for it is to put strict limits on the power any one man can wield, to remain eternally vigilant that those limits be preserved, and to keep and bear arms.

20 posted on 05/21/2002 8:25:34 AM PDT by Physicist
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