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1 posted on 05/19/2002 3:51:22 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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dysfunctional intelligence agencies

The sad REAL truth.

2 posted on 05/19/2002 3:58:25 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
The real question is this. Does Congress and the Democrats and the Repubs really want the gov't to respond in the way it should knowing that a WMD attack on the US is a true possibility? Can the INS and FBI overcome their interia and secure the borders and deport the middle eastern illegals and take down their support networks? Or is there a reason why the best they can do is color codes and feeling up grandmas at airports?

Don't ask why was nothing done 9-10. Ask why is nothing being done NOW. We are essentially in a 9-10 condition today. We've had the warning. What will we do about it?

4 posted on 05/19/2002 4:01:45 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
it goes back to Clinton.
5 posted on 05/19/2002 4:10:52 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
FBI Admits No Evidence Links 'Hijackers' To 911
FAA Warned Airlines Of Specific Threat Before Attacks
The New US-British Oil Imperialism
Pipeline Politics - The Caspian Oil Connection
911 Top 500 Questions
The Data Page
9 posted on 05/19/2002 4:29:20 PM PDT by It'salmosttolate
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
And on MSNBC to boot!
16 posted on 05/19/2002 5:21:42 PM PDT by joathome
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!; RJayneJ; JohnHuang2
Although both the liberal press and the fringe right-wing extremists who dislike President Bush would like for Americans to think that 9/11 was a failure of our Intelligence Agencies, nothing could be further from the truth.

9/11 was a failure of deterrence, not intelligence. It is simply not possible to know everything and stop every atrocity with that knowlege.

On the other hand, it is possible for our response to be so severe that future attacks are deterred...

20 posted on 05/19/2002 6:08:04 PM PDT by Southack
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
I can almost taste it. The liberal media, and their DNC masters will force Watergate-style hearings into President Bush's handling of the 9/11 intelligence failure. Bush, Rove, Matalin, Lott, Hastert, and the rest of the spineless, gutless Republicans will NOT fight back, and they will let it happen. Klinton will once again escape the firing squad.

While all this ridiculous, partisan B.S. goes on at Capitol Hill, we'll be atttacked again. What a statement that will make to the rest of the world!

Jiang Zhemin will fall off his chair in uncontrollable laughter, thinking " THESE are the guys that will try to stop us from taking Taiwan? HA!"

If Bush can't handle the media slander and stand up to the EVIL anti-American democratic threat, the ramifications go beyond politics. We will lose the country.

31 posted on 05/19/2002 8:03:43 PM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
What is bothering me is not the fact that memos on the subject of a 9/11 type terror attack exist, but that the existence of the terrorist organization (I don't know if it was called Al-Queida at the time) was known as far back as the Iran-Contra hearings.

Col. North brought up Osama Bin Laden's name while he was being questioned about the 60K security system which he had installed in his home. Col North also, at the same hearing, espoused the belief that the man should be eliminated at the first opportunity. The following is basically verbatim testimony, which I recieved from a friend (name withheld due to the fact I did not ask for permission to use his name ;-)

It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they played an old news video of Lt. Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning! He was being drilled by some senator:

"Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"

Ollie replied, "Yes, I did , Sir."

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, "Isn't that just a little excessive?"

"No, sir," continued Ollie. "No? And why not?" the senator asked.

"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir"

Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.=20

"By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered.=20

"Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"

"His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name,butcouldn't pronounce it,which most people back then probably couldn't.

A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued, "Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked.

"Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that know of", Ollie answered.

And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.

"Well, sir,if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.

If anyone is interested, the senator turned out to be none other than Al Gore.

Ok, here we see the sowing of the seeds which directly led to the tragedy of 9/11. Lest anyone forget, President Bush had been in office less than a year, was trying to unscramble the debacle which the government had been allowed to become under the Xlintoons, and, I am sure, was aware of exactly who attacked the USS Cole.

The problem here is, that regardless of what was known, and by whom, the liberal agitprop spewers are going to do their level best to destroy this administration by pressuring the leaders of the House and Senate to demand hearings, which will rapidly degenerate into political pontificating sessions (Remember the Ashcroft confirmation hearing, well, this will be about 100 times more vehement, and the rent-a-shouters will be out in force).

Even if we had iron clad intel about OBL, Al-Queida, and terrorist activity, there are many reasons why the information would not be disseminated. Two that come immediately to mind are (1.) leaking of the information would compromise an important HUMINT source, and (2.) While the general idea of an "attack" was known, the actual method of attack was not.

We have seen in the months following 9/11, so much disinformation and cries of "wolf" that one takes all info with a grain of salt. IMHO, I have absolutely no doubt that another attack, equal to or surpassing 9/11 will take place. We have just not done enough to remove the perps from this country under the name of "Political Correctness".

There is only one real cure for this, and that is to cut the head off the chicken, by whatever means it takes. I suggest that 2 cities in the Middle East be reduced to green glass, that the sword of enhanced radiation weapons be used to insure the enemy is gone, while the oil infrastructure remains intact, and the takeover of said infrastructure by loyal Americans and American Corporations.

Yes, this can spread, as there are multiple chickens to be beheaded in this war against terror. OBL has become a figurehead and his death must be openly televised to all who would follow his teachings. If we have to reduce the capital cities of countries who support and harbor terrorists to glass ponds, so be it.

Mr President, OPEN THE FOOTBALL!!! LET'S ROLL!!

Keep the Faith for Freedom

MAY GOD BLESS AND PROTECT THIS HONORABLE REPUBLIC FROM THE CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGERS NOW FACING HER FROM BOTH WITHIN AND OUTSIDE HER BORDERS, INCLUDING FROM THOSE WHOSE POLITICAL AFFILIATION INCLUDES THE (D) AND TO INCLUDE THOSE WHO SHOULD, LIKE TRAITOR MCCAIN. THIS, MOST CERTAINLY INCLUDES THE INCUMBENTS OF THE SENATE (DASCHLE,FEINSTEIN, BOXER & SHUMER (AMONG OTHERS), AND THOSE IN THE HOUSE, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THE SOCIALIST AND PROGRESSIVE CAUCUS (COMMUNISTS UNDER A NEW NAME). DAMN THE CFR BILL, I WILL SPEAK MY MIND FREELY, AS GUARANTEED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT!!!. YOU MAY TAKE THE 60 DAYS AND SHOVE THEM!!!!
JOE MCCARTHY, WHERE ARE YOU NOW WHEN WE NEED YOU?

Greg

34 posted on 05/19/2002 8:42:34 PM PDT by gwmoore
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
The intelligence issue starts with the unintelligent people who elected Clinton TWICE. Clinton cut defense spending. Cut funding for international intelligence. Clinton did not take custody of Bin Laden when he had the opportunity. Clinton ruined the economy. Allowed unchecked immigration. And the mess he left is proven in the results of the past 2 years, of which Democrats now try to blame Bush.

The failure of intelligence starts with the American people for electing idiots, criminals, and corporate candidates.

38 posted on 05/20/2002 6:09:37 AM PDT by o_zarkman44
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