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Why I Am Angry About the Bush Revelations
NewsMax ^ | 05/17/2002 | Christopher Ruddy

Posted on 05/17/2002 8:54:11 PM PDT by Pokey78

I have to say I'm a little angry today.

Many months after 9-11, the media suddenly want to hold President Bush accountable for what took place.

They are even invoking Watergate and the mantra of cover-up: "What did the president know and when did he know it?”

Don't get me wrong. I believe this president – and every president – should be held accountable to the American people for all the things that happen under his watch.

But I also believe the media should have demanded accountability immediately after 9-11.

In fact, they have yet to do so.

Since 9-11, congressional investigations have begun, but little has come of them so far.

It took five months – five months – before CIA Director George Tenet was brought before the Congress to testify.

He boldly told Congress there was nothing that could have been done to prevent the September tragedy.

The truth is evident for anyone with a brain: Nothing could have been done because of the catastrophic failure of our intelligence agencies, particularly the CIA and the FBI.

Immediately after 9-11, NewsMax revealed – we were the first – that during the Clinton years the CIA had stopped recruiting spies within the terrorist networks.

The media have gone to great lengths to avoid the story.

To date, they have yet to question, seriously and vigorously, Bill and Hillary Clinton for their actions in their eight years in the White House.

In President Bush's defense, he had arrived at the White House just months before 9-11.

But the media have not asked the Clintons, under whose watch the attacks were planned, why they failed us.

In this new era of Clintonian politics (and the Clintons still dominate the political scene), there is no accountability, especially if it involves Democrats.

Obviously, this is an election year, and the Democrats want to score as many points as possible against a very popular president.

Here we are witnessing the difference between the Republicans and the Democrats. Given the opportunity, the Democrats will always go for the jugular, while the Republicans will always try to take the high road.

It's not difficult to understand, then, why the Republicans are usually on the losing side.

The Democrats also have a very powerful ally in the establishment media, which always back them up.

The Roper Study found that 89 percent of the Washington press corps voted for Bill Clinton. Presumably, they would like to see Hillary in the White House as well.

The serious issue is not what the president knew and when he knew it.

The real question is why the American media gave Bill Clinton a free ride for eight years while he plundered national treasures such as the Lincoln Bedroom, politicized the FBI, gave away our nuclear and ballistic secrets to China, led the most corrupt administration in history – and yet and yet and yet, the liberal media have never viewed any of this as important.

Americans saw the results of the media's blatant failure to perform their job on 9-11.

I'm afraid that unless we take substantial action and find out who really was responsible for not preventing Sept. 11, future tragic events, more sensational than we have ever seen, will happen again. And this time we might not be so lucky.


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To: nopardons
I most certainly do know what I am talking about. Do you think that having a Republican in the White House makes all the problems go away? Do this little favor for me please...compare the DNC stand on the major issues form 10-15 years ago with the RNC satnd on those same issues today?

Besides, if you had read all my postings, you would have seen that I believe there is not enough evidence to support Bush's knowing about the attack, but there is evidence where certain other governmental groups knew, and did not do anything about it.

Next time you try to smear me, please do so with a better understanding of my position.

21 posted on 05/17/2002 11:25:11 PM PDT by Horatio Bunce
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To: Pokey78
The best I have read on this subject. It says everything I have tried to say, only much better!
This is a concerted efforts by the media and the RATS to get those Bush poll numbers down. Any thinking American would know that the attacks were several years in the planning, in fact, the media has aknowledged as such, yet they just shape the spin to favor the RATS. The Clintons are worse thing that has ever happened to this country, and we can never be rid of them thanks to a compliant media.
22 posted on 05/17/2002 11:26:55 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Horatio Bunce
Sorry for the mispellings. When I type quickly, it happens.
23 posted on 05/17/2002 11:27:06 PM PDT by Horatio Bunce
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To: Clovis_Skeptic
Great article this!
24 posted on 05/17/2002 11:27:43 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Horatio Bunce
ext time you try to smear me, please do so with a better understanding of my position.

When it comes to a bircher, there is no way to misunderstand his position OR motivation. Get it?

25 posted on 05/17/2002 11:29:39 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: sleavelessinseattle
"Why is Dan Rather still drawing a paycheck?"

I can't answer that. I checked out your link and it only confirms what I've thought all along, Rather needs professional help, if you get my drift. However it's too late at this point Methinks.

Bart

26 posted on 05/17/2002 11:33:52 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: Texasforever
Come on Pop. At least tip your hat to the new guy.
27 posted on 05/17/2002 11:35:09 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: Pokey78
We elected a President. We did not select a Batman.

The White House does not have a Batcave beneath it with super Bat Computers capable of taking these riddles from Islamic nutcases and telling us exactly what they're going to do, how, where, and when they plan to do it.

Our intellegence bureaus get vague warnings all the time. They are vague for a reason. That reason is that even Islamic fundementalists aren't stupid enough to tell us every single detail of what they intend to do.

DUMOCRAPS, PUT YOUR ILLOGICAL, POORLY THOUGHT OUT ACCUSATIONS BACK UP YOUR RECTUMS AND WAIT TILL YOU CAN DEPOSIT THEM IN THE TOILET LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!

28 posted on 05/17/2002 11:35:51 PM PDT by Wondervixen
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To: nunya bidness
I did. LOL
29 posted on 05/17/2002 11:36:00 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: nunya bidness
BTW. Do you know why the other Birch thread was pulled last night?
30 posted on 05/17/2002 11:38:11 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: blackbart.223
Bushmaster, Armalite, Galil, other?...Check all that apply... I had to sell my "Dissipator", this year for impecunity...Loved that system;-) Have you heard the Israeli nursery rhyme?

for every Jew,

a Twenty Two

I'm advocating an additional stanza

for every gentile

a Galil!

31 posted on 05/17/2002 11:44:10 PM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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To: Texasforever
I missed it. Take care.
32 posted on 05/17/2002 11:44:16 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: Texasforever
I am not an official member of the JBS, nor have I claimed to be. Yet, I am convinced that their publication, The New American speaks the truth. The article I posted from them was published two months ago, well before any of these "latest developments" have come to the surface.

I think that shows just how accurate their reporting is, and you certainly cannot claim that it is democrats running the publication.

33 posted on 05/17/2002 11:47:49 PM PDT by Horatio Bunce
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To: Horatio Bunce
am not an official member of the JBS, nor have I claimed to be. Yet, I am convinced that their publication, The New American speaks the truth. The article I posted from them was published two months ago, well before any of these "latest developments" have come to the surface.

Yes and every other "publication" did as well. Your previous thread "innocuously" titled "Did we know it was coming" is another example of "well duh" histrionics disguised as expose'. Hell yes we knew it was coming. That was no secret the secret was when and how. The when is infinite in possibilities and the how is almost as infinate method to be used. Every conspiracy, the JBS specialty, requires two things, a vague grounding in truth and an ignorant, gullible OR malicious audience to feed it to. Just so I have made myself clear "THE GOVERNMENT KNEW THIS WAS COMING AND THERE WAS NOT ONE DAMNED THING THEY COULD DO TO PREVENT IT AND IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN!" The only possible way to stop another 911 is to do what the JBS has been accusing the government of doing for 60 years, to institute a total and complete martial law within this country.

34 posted on 05/18/2002 12:01:07 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Henk
Any president that takes action in advance of an attack or as a result of an attack is hammered by these same democrats. Look at how we are limited in trying Walker and Mossaudi(sp?). Look at how the media will demand they be allowed a platform for their views. Look at how our pow's in Cuba are scoured for any mistreatment that can be claimed.

I'm afraid the democrats are a corrupt party - with corrupt individuals gravitating to that party. This is why they want liberal judges, this is why the media hamstrings any defense of America, this is why they attack a moral Christian president who is conservative. They do not want moral, they identify with amoral, they do not want any legal restrictions, they identify with prisoners rather than victims. This is why the tough fight on conservative judges - the democrats want liberal judges that are controlled by corruption - they identify with corruption - not justice.

Bush is going to be in a fight for our lives with these democrats as he tries to go after the terrorists, brings them to justice and then goes after Saddam. They will be obstructionist all the way because they will aid and protect the terrorists interests against us - Americans. We need to watch and ask why. We need to support Bush in this fight - or - he could just give up and not maintain the fight. Why would any man want to take all the abuse of the democrats, the liberals, the terrorists and even those in his own party or other conservatives?

35 posted on 05/18/2002 12:05:46 AM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: ClancyJ
Why would any man want to take all the abuse of the democrats, the liberals, the terrorists and even those in his own party or other conservatives?

That should be the question of the day right here on this forum.

36 posted on 05/18/2002 12:16:07 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Now hold on here. They uphold a return to the Constitution. In the same issue of the article I posted, an article ran in support for a return to Constitutional law. They also ran a Q/A on what the Constitution says, and why they they support the document.

Your argument is unfounded. If our government knew, then what prevented them from taking action? There were several top officials at the FBI who wanted to warn the President and Congress about the impending attacks. Yet they were denied that request, claiming the evidence was too vague. How do you explain Zecarius Moussoui (sp?) being in custody prior to the attacks, and the Washington branch of the FBI not doing a thing about it? It's funny, he was apprehended at a flight school. if our government couldn't piece 2 and 2 together, then we have bigger problems than terrorism. You probably don't even know who John Birch was.

I too support a return to Constitutional law, and I have found no other publication that so clearly states what I believe than TNA.

37 posted on 05/18/2002 12:19:28 AM PDT by Horatio Bunce
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To: ClancyJ
>>Bush is going to be in a fight for our lives with these democrats as he tries to go after the terrorists<<

You got that right. Bush is fighting a two front war. Terrorists on one side and the Democrat-Media on the other.

I don't think his strategy of "changing the tone" is working. As it has been said many times, trying to deal honorably with a scoundrel is a wasted effort.

The Democrats have no honor, they will gladly damage our country in their lust for power.

38 posted on 05/18/2002 12:20:55 AM PDT by LloydofDSS
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To: ladyinred
The thing that the Democrats are misjudging is that there is no tangible benefit to their entitlement constituencies for embracing this campaign. Nobody makes any money off of this smear. Nobody in the 'hood, civil service & teacher unions, the plaintiff bar, enviromentallyills, or the Gay Lesbo community gets one dime when funding for the FBI is expanded. When they distort Bush's Social Security plan, the AARP rings the register; when they villify his environmental record, the Green groups get federal funding authorizations and private contributions; education criticism means the NEA rings the bell; Medicare reform means tort liability opportunities; Minimum Wage increases mean automatic AFSCME wage increases. Bush mishandled intelligence information? Who gets paid from that riff? "Come back when you got some coin, Jack."

I don't know who they are targeting here. None of my friends, all apolitical, believe that George W. Bush would ignore preventitive measures if he knew the details of the 9/11 event in advance. It's not a believable scenario, given what people have learned about the President.

It's a Media feeding frenzy. The energy is generated by an innate burst of activity and excitement absent a story. The whole buzz is created by inflammatory and fraudulent headlines "Bush knew of 9/11 attack in advance" No, that's not what the story shows.

What a pathetic display by the news media. They're not even trying to cloak their frentic partisan agenda any more. They are scared to death of a GOP led Senate that starts moving Judicial Nominations onto the floor. Terry Moran of ABC News is having a nervous breakdown trying to pry some insidious scandal out of this thing. Ari has to tell him three times every briefing that he's answered that same question already.

39 posted on 05/18/2002 12:25:27 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Horatio Bunce
our argument is unfounded. If our government knew, then what prevented them from taking action? There were several top officials at the FBI who wanted to warn the President and Congress about the impending attacks. Yet they were denied that request, claiming the evidence was too vague. How do you explain Zecarius Moussoui (sp?) being in custody prior to the attacks, and the Washington branch of the FBI not doing a thing about it? It's funny, he was apprehended at a flight school. if our government couldn't piece 2 and 2 together, then we have bigger problems than terrorism. You probably don't even know who John Birch was.

Oh believe me I am VERY well grounded in who and what John Birch was. However, don't pussy foot around. What is your personal opinion of why the government did not respond. No, hints, no hedges why did the "government" fail to respond?

40 posted on 05/18/2002 12:28:14 AM PDT by Texasforever
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