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May 17 2002 | Friso Stammen

Posted on 05/17/2002 6:08:18 AM PDT by knighthawk

There appeared a thread yesterday:

Fortuyn favoured depraved

It said that Pim Fortuyn was 'a powerful advocate or paedophilia'. The article in the Scotsman is based on an 1999 column of Pim Fortuyn.

The article there leaves out the things that make one understand what he is saying.

1. If it was true this was such a vile column, Elsevier would have never allowed it to be printed
2. If it was true this was such a vile column, the media an left parties would have brought it to the attention of people months ago. And by doing so stopping Fortuyn cold in his tracks before he could break down the left
3. If it was true this was such a vile column, and he is a sexual pervert, then way did nobody claimed the 2250 dollar reward a leftist organization awarded the first man that could bring out information about Fortuyn's sexual past that would descredit him. Not ONE single person managed to come up with anything.

I a furious, not about the article, but they way it was presented and pinged around.

This is exactly what led to the death of Pim Fortuyn in the first place, the demonization of the media and politicians, who lied and published selected half-true things, leaving out the rest.

He was murdered by a man who thought that shooting so was a good thing to do.


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To: Travis McGee; knighthawk
Old saying: "when you are taking heavy flak, you know your bombs are hitting the target." Pim was hitting too close to the target, which is why he was destroyed.

Exactly what I was thinking. Some people seem to have thought it worthwhile to try to discredit Fortuyn on this conservative board and to ping lots of people to that end. Couldn't be the globalists and corporatists who want unlimited immigration and lots of cheap labor, could it?

121 posted on 05/18/2002 9:39:35 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: knighthawk
>This will be my last post here at the FreeRepublic.

It's pretty darned stupid to leave a conservative forum when you "discover" that the people there favor conservative views and people, and have contempt for oddball, fringe people pushing licentious (not to mention exploitative and opportunistic) values and beliefs.

Mark W.

122 posted on 05/18/2002 9:39:47 AM PDT by MarkWar
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To: knighthawk
No! Don't you dare leave! I would really miss you!
124 posted on 05/18/2002 11:22:08 AM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: knighthawk
To quote insane liberal Senator Paul Wellstone, "I don't really know what's going on here," but I really hope you don't leave. If I quit FR every time someone blamed Daniel Pearl for his own murder, or said the Israelis are terrorists, I'd be quitting at least once a day. Just ignore those people or make a list on your homepage of people whose posts you aren't interested in. Okay?
126 posted on 05/18/2002 9:11:34 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: ALL
I didn't mind really about the article, when one showed it to me on another thread. But when I saw it posted and a guy pinged almost the whole FR I really got mad. And the comment that God was dealing with him (Fortuyn) now made me snap.

It was like I was drowning and somebody throwed and anchor at me.

They tried to pull this one two years ago, and it didn't work then. But now he is dead and they try it again, to justify his murder. Even the International Socialists didn't went that low to smear him. I bet over at the DU people would have been insulted by such a thing. But it was presented here on the FR. I was glad to see that people questioned it, but there is no defence against such a thing.

The article leaves out where Fortuyn slams the government for not convicting peadophiles enough and he is also angered about the lack of rehabilitation after they served their sentence. The police rather spends their money on other things.

I just didn't know anymore. I had to find some answers to some questions. Before Fortuyns death, I didn't run from stuff like that. But without him it was like things were falling apart here, like sand that flows through your fingers. Although he made the right win the elections, things will never be the same without him. I am so afraid everything will be in vain. So many people are dancing on his grave, like nothing has changed.

But the mail and replies made me realize that there are so many people who really care, people that are worth fighting for. And I could never abandon you people. You are right, giving in is not the right thing to do.

Sometimes I felt like a man against the world, but I know I can count on you all. And you can count on me.

When I am feeling down, music pulls me through. I wanted to share this with you:

Hold The Dream

When you're lost and lonely
And you feel you can't go on
In the blink of an eye
You could throw it all away

You can turn your world around
Show them all what you can do
Just believe, and trust your heart
To see you through

A dream so real
You can feel it in the palm of your hand
So hang onto tomorrow
And never look back again

Hold the dream
Don't ever let it go
Hold the dream

Don't ever let it get you down
When they turn their back on you
Just do what feels right
You can find what you're looking for
Don't get lost along the way
Always be strong, your heart can't be wrong
Don't give up and your dreams will come true

A dream so real
You can feel it in the palm of your hand
So hang onto tomorrow
And never look back again

Hold the dream
Don't ever let it go
Hold the dream
Hang onto tomorrow
Hold the dream

I'll be back!

127 posted on 05/19/2002 8:48:30 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
All right! You've made my day........ GREAT!
128 posted on 05/19/2002 9:15:36 AM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: knighthawk
I am glad to see you reconsidered your position.BTTT
129 posted on 05/19/2002 10:18:50 AM PDT by freeforall
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To: knighthawk
Lucky bugger.

At least you got to read your opus.

When I returned "The Day After", my thread had vanished. I never did get to read the comments, though I doubt mine were as warm as yours!

Anyway, keep smiling

Philip.

BTW, Welcome back.

130 posted on 05/19/2002 10:25:53 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: knighthawk
Glad to have you back Knighthawk!
You are a man with many friends. You have made my day with your decision to stick around.
FR will be better for it.
131 posted on 05/19/2002 11:29:19 AM PDT by fortress
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To: knighthawk
WOOHOO!!!!!
132 posted on 05/19/2002 3:20:45 PM PDT by facedown
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To: knighthawk
Welcome back.
133 posted on 05/19/2002 9:43:18 PM PDT by antidisestablishment
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To: knighthawk
Pim Fortuyn was murdered. That was wrong. His killer should be vigorously prosecuted and strictly punished.

But Pim Fortuyn was hardly a man worth worshipping (is any man?) Did he express sympathy for pedophilia or not? It appears that he did. Let it go. You aren't buying into the left's agenda if you refuse to worship a man who thought pedophiles are victims who deserved sympathy and understanding.

You need to find a better quality of human being to admire.

134 posted on 05/19/2002 9:50:38 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: knighthawk; happygal
Yay!




135 posted on 05/20/2002 3:26:14 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: knighthawk
I'll be back!

I'm glad to hear that. Your observations on the politcal situation in the Netherlands are irreplacable.

136 posted on 05/20/2002 6:28:11 AM PDT by Dakmar
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To: knighthawk
Re: your #127 - Outstanding

You have an e-mail from me sent before I got to this. My comments stand. Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

137 posted on 05/20/2002 7:02:22 AM PDT by harpseal
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