Posted on 05/17/2002 6:08:18 AM PDT by knighthawk
There appeared a thread yesterday:
It said that Pim Fortuyn was 'a powerful advocate or paedophilia'. The article in the Scotsman is based on an 1999 column of Pim Fortuyn.
The article there leaves out the things that make one understand what he is saying.
1. If it was true this was such a vile column, Elsevier would have never allowed it to be printed
2. If it was true this was such a vile column, the media an left parties would have brought it to the attention of people months ago. And by doing so stopping Fortuyn cold in his tracks before he could break down the left
3. If it was true this was such a vile column, and he is a sexual pervert, then way did nobody claimed the 2250 dollar reward a leftist organization awarded the first man that could bring out information about Fortuyn's sexual past that would descredit him. Not ONE single person managed to come up with anything.
I a furious, not about the article, but they way it was presented and pinged around.
This is exactly what led to the death of Pim Fortuyn in the first place, the demonization of the media and politicians, who lied and published selected half-true things, leaving out the rest.
He was murdered by a man who thought that shooting so was a good thing to do.
Exactly what I was thinking. Some people seem to have thought it worthwhile to try to discredit Fortuyn on this conservative board and to ping lots of people to that end. Couldn't be the globalists and corporatists who want unlimited immigration and lots of cheap labor, could it?
It's pretty darned stupid to leave a conservative forum when you "discover" that the people there favor conservative views and people, and have contempt for oddball, fringe people pushing licentious (not to mention exploitative and opportunistic) values and beliefs.
Mark W.
It was like I was drowning and somebody throwed and anchor at me.
They tried to pull this one two years ago, and it didn't work then. But now he is dead and they try it again, to justify his murder. Even the International Socialists didn't went that low to smear him. I bet over at the DU people would have been insulted by such a thing. But it was presented here on the FR. I was glad to see that people questioned it, but there is no defence against such a thing.
The article leaves out where Fortuyn slams the government for not convicting peadophiles enough and he is also angered about the lack of rehabilitation after they served their sentence. The police rather spends their money on other things.
I just didn't know anymore. I had to find some answers to some questions. Before Fortuyns death, I didn't run from stuff like that. But without him it was like things were falling apart here, like sand that flows through your fingers. Although he made the right win the elections, things will never be the same without him. I am so afraid everything will be in vain. So many people are dancing on his grave, like nothing has changed.
But the mail and replies made me realize that there are so many people who really care, people that are worth fighting for. And I could never abandon you people. You are right, giving in is not the right thing to do.
Sometimes I felt like a man against the world, but I know I can count on you all. And you can count on me.
When I am feeling down, music pulls me through. I wanted to share this with you:
Hold The Dream
When you're lost and lonely
And you feel you can't go on
In the blink of an eye
You could throw it all away
You can turn your world around
Show them all what you can do
Just believe, and trust your heart
To see you through
A dream so real
You can feel it in the palm of your hand
So hang onto tomorrow
And never look back again
Hold the dream
Don't ever let it go
Hold the dream
Don't ever let it get you down
When they turn their back on you
Just do what feels right
You can find what you're looking for
Don't get lost along the way
Always be strong, your heart can't be wrong
Don't give up and your dreams will come true
A dream so real
You can feel it in the palm of your hand
So hang onto tomorrow
And never look back again
Hold the dream
Don't ever let it go
Hold the dream
Hang onto tomorrow
Hold the dream
I'll be back!
At least you got to read your opus.
When I returned "The Day After", my thread had vanished. I never did get to read the comments, though I doubt mine were as warm as yours!
Anyway, keep smiling
Philip.
BTW, Welcome back.
But Pim Fortuyn was hardly a man worth worshipping (is any man?) Did he express sympathy for pedophilia or not? It appears that he did. Let it go. You aren't buying into the left's agenda if you refuse to worship a man who thought pedophiles are victims who deserved sympathy and understanding.
You need to find a better quality of human being to admire.
I'm glad to hear that. Your observations on the politcal situation in the Netherlands are irreplacable.
You have an e-mail from me sent before I got to this. My comments stand. Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown
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