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Denver Judge Axes the Constitution - Update of Rick Stanley's 2A/Civil Disobedience Trial
The Stanley for U.S. Senate 2002 Colorado Campaign - News Release ^ | May 15, 2002 | Stanley for U.S. Senate 2002 - Colorado

Posted on 05/16/2002 3:05:12 AM PDT by LibertyRocks

Denver Judge Axes the Constitution
Update on Trial: Day 1
News Release - May 15, 2002

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

May 15, 2002

NEWS RELEASE

Stanley for U.S. Senate 2002
Website:
http://www.stanley2002.org
Contact: Rick Stanley, 303.329.0481
Email:
Rick@stanley2002.org

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DENVER JUDGE AXES THE CONSTITUTION...

[Denver - 11:30 pm] Sparks flew today in a Denver Courtroom where Libertarian U.S. Senate hopeful Rick Stanley is on trial for openly carrying a firearm in violation of Denver Municipal Ordinance 38-117.5(b). The arrest was the result of an intentional act of civil disobedience during a rally celebrating the 210th Anniversary of the Bill of Rights on December 15, 2001.

After wading through the usual preliminary proceedings, Defense Attorney Paul Grant moved for a twelve-man jury. This request was denied by Judge Patterson who stated Stanley would get only 6 jurors, citing a Colorado Statute.

Judge Patterson's next move was to order everyone except the defendant and the officers of the court out of the room.

Grant immediately objected stating the Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guaranteed Rick's right to a speedy and public trial. "A trial can't be public," Grant stated, "if the public is excluded."

The judge countered that there wasn't enough room for the jury pool of 18 people and the public. After a few more minutes a compromise was reached and everyone except Mr. Stanley, his lawyer, and the court officials left the courtroom.

As observers left the court room they were met by a posse of armed guards from the Sheriff's department who ordered them to move away from the doorway.

After the jury pool came in and were seated, the observers were allowed back into the courtroom.

During the jury selection process supporters of Stanley were shocked to discover that out of a pool of 12 prospective jurors - 5 just happened to be employed by the Plaintiff, The City and County of Denver. One prospective female jury member confirmed that she indeed was a police officer employed by the Denver Police Department.

Grant objected that these jurors should be disqualified for conflict of interest issues, the Judge did not find cause to dismiss these jurors at that time.

During the selection process Defense Attorney Paul Grant posed several questions to this Police Officer.

When asked by Grant if she could really apply the laws as explained by the judge, she replied, "yes".

Then Mr. Grant asked her to confirm if she really was a police officer with the city and county of Denver. She replied, "yes".

Mr. Grant then asked her if, "...when becoming a police officer, she had taken an oath to support the Constitution of Colorado and the Constitution of the United States of America?"

"Yes, I did." the officer replied.

Grant then asked her a hypothetical question; "If the judge were to instruct you that the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution and Article 2, Section 13 of the Constitution of Colorado are applicable to this case, would you be able to follow that instruction?

Pandemonium erupted halfway through Grant's question with the City Prosecutor objecting at the top of his lungs to the form of the question, as the Judge pounded his gavel for attention.

At this time Judge Patterson dismissed the jurors for lunch. After they left the courtroom Judge Patterson began to lecture Mr. Grant.

"I already sent you an order in this case. The order has been mailed to your offices. You are not to mention the Constitution during this proceeding. Do you understand?"

Grant replied that he did not.

Patterson said, "Then I'll explain it again. You are not to reference the Constitution in these proceedings. You will not address it in voir dire, you will not address it in your opening remarks, you will not ask any questions about the Constitution when you summon your witnesses, and you will not talk about the Constitution when you give your closing arguments. Do you understand my instructions?", questioned Judge Patterson.

Grant again replied he did not understand, and the judge proceeded to repeat his previous orders. He also stated that Mr. Grant had already violated these orders during the voir dire process when questioning the police officer.

Grant objected to the judge's statement and replied, "Your honor I did not ask a question about the Constitution I asked a question about jury instructions."

The Judge then asserted, "You did no such thing."

Grant countered, "Yes, I did." He peered at his notes and said, "Here's the question I asked her. If the judge were to instruct you that the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and Article 2, Section 13 of the Constitution of Colorado are applicable to this case, would you be able to follow that instruction?"

In the presence of numerous observers, and despite an audio recording and at least one court reporter the Judge then asserted, "That's not the question you asked."

At that point it was clear Judge Patterson was visibly upset. He began advising counsel that he was on dangerous grounds and threatened him with court sanctions. Patterson then recessed the proceedings for a lunch break.

As Judge Patterson left the courtroom one Stanley supporter, Mr. Joe Johnson stood and addressed those left in the courtroom, "Hear Ye, Hear Ye, The Constitution of the United States of America has just been repealed by a Denver County Court Judge." Two reporters from the Denver daily papers scribbled furiously and then bolted for the doors.

The court reconvened in the afternoon and the jury selection was completed. The jury consists of 6 people, 5 women and 1 man.

The court heard testimony from both sides including testimony from the arresting officers who stated they did not fear any violence from Mr. Stanley, and that he was co-operative.

When Mr. Stanley was called by defense to testify, Judge Patterson questioned whether he really wanted to testify or not. The judge mentioned the Constitutional provision that guaranteed his ability not to testify, but when Mr. Stanley asked the judge to cite the provision the judge refused.

Throughout the afternoon's proceedings lawyers, judges, and others who apparently worked within the judicial system were seen coming in and out of the courtroom for short periods of time.

Testimony was concluded in the afternoon. Judge Patterson then recessed the proceedings to reconvene in the morning for closing arguments.

More information concerning Rick's arrest and the trial can be found online at: http://www.stanley2002.org/denvsconstitution.htm .

Previous news releases about this trial can be found online at: http://www.stanley2002.org/releases.htm

Rick Stanley is the CEO and owner of Stanley Fasteners and Shop Supply in Denver, and is currently seeking the Libertarian Party of Colorado's nomination as Candidate for U.S. Senate 2002. The convention will be held this weekend in Leadville, Colorado.

For more information on Rick's campaign please visit his official web site at: http://www.stanley2002.org . Information about the Libertarian Party of Colorado can be found at: http://www.lpcolorado.org

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Rick is available for media interviews about his grassroots campaign for U.S. Senate. For more information please call Rick at 303.329.0481.



TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; colorado; constitution; corruption; courts; guns; judge; jurytampering; libertarians; secondamendment; trial; ussenatecandidate
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To: wacko;VA Advogado
Yes, that is a personal attack. They don't bother me. Especially from Advogado who openly admitted he's a JBT and proud of it. Considering his job choice, I expect Advogado to attack innocent persons both on the job and off the job.
661 posted on 05/18/2002 8:21:03 AM PDT by Zon
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To: wacko;Roscoe
Arguing or waiting for a reasoned response from Roscoe is akin to believing in the "Will'O Wisp." It is a waste of time.
663 posted on 05/18/2002 11:41:51 AM PDT by Buckeroo
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To: wacko
Will Leadville be his Waterloo?


664 posted on 05/18/2002 1:28:38 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Roscoe, - your FR Waterloo has been your opposition to the 2nd amendment, and thus, the basic principles of our constitution.

Any 'conservative' credibility you have ever had here is gone, - hint, hint.

665 posted on 05/18/2002 1:41:51 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Ignorance of the actual meaning of the Second Amendment is curable.

"The Second Amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress." -- US Supreme Court, U.S. v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875), Presser v. State of Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886)

666 posted on 05/18/2002 1:47:53 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Zon
Handgun Control Incorporated

I think they just changed their name......saw a reference to it somewhere.

667 posted on 05/18/2002 2:46:37 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: VA Advogado
Avocado, I just nailed the abuse button on your 658.......would you please be good enough to address the issues here? If you've said it all, fine, no need to review what you think of the people who disagree with you. I made my posts way back up the line, and don't have much more to add. Anyone who's paid attention knows what I think about jury nullification: I quoted, cited, and supported, and I debated that issue with Roscoe and others without anyone's comparing anyone else to excreta. You do the same, please.

Everyone else: Sorry about the Net Nanny impression, but the kids were brawling again.

668 posted on 05/18/2002 2:54:07 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Roscoe
Roscoe, you standing pat with that old Klan Act decision? You know it wouldn't stand up for five seconds nowadays. You and Spiff have been arguing that the State can use the Tenth Amendment to abridge or even rescind completely our rights under the BoR.....do you really think that? I had thought that not only was the jury back on that one, but that SCOTUS has ruled repeatedly that the States cannot do this, its earlier ruling in Cruikshank notwithstanding.

Or do you just hate the idea of private firearms ownership, and will argue anything anytime against it?

669 posted on 05/18/2002 2:59:00 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Roscoe
"To: tpaine

Ignorance of the actual meaning of the Second Amendment is curable.

"The Second Amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress." -- US Supreme Court, U.S. v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875), Presser v. State of Illinois, 116 U.S. 252 (1886)

666 posted on 5/18/02 1:47 PM Pacific by Roscoe


From your point of view, therefore, any other government body may make law. This is not true.
670 posted on 05/18/2002 3:04:46 PM PDT by Buckeroo
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To: lentulusgracchus
"The relevant historical materials have been canvassed by this Court and by legal scholars. These materials demonstrate conclusively that Congress and the members of the legislatures of the ratifying States did not contemplate that the Fourteenth Amendment was a short-hand incorporation of the first eight amendments making them applicable as explicit restrictions upon the States." -- U.S. Supreme Court BARTKUS v. ILLINOIS, 359 U.S. 121 (1959)

671 posted on 05/18/2002 3:05:03 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: lentulusgracchus
I quoted, cited, and supported

Not.

672 posted on 05/18/2002 3:06:12 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Buckeroo
"In order to limit the powers which it was feared might be claimed or exercised by the Federal government, under the provisions of the Constitution as it was when adopted, the first ten amendments to that instrument were proposed to the legislatures of the several states by the first Congress on the 25th of September, 1789. They were intended as restraints and limitations upon the powers of the general government, and were not intended to and did not have any effect upon the powers of the respective states. This has been many times decided." -- U.S. Supreme Court MAXWELL v. DOW, 176 U.S. 581 (1900)

673 posted on 05/18/2002 3:07:34 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
HOGWASH!
674 posted on 05/18/2002 3:12:34 PM PDT by Buckeroo
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To: Buckeroo
HOGWASH!

No, the Constitution isn't hogwash. Perhaps you're thinking of the LP Platform?

675 posted on 05/18/2002 3:20:06 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
The Bill of Rights is applied to all states; it isn't a wannabe consideration based upon your agreement with a court's opinion. It is the constitution, my weak kneed little socialist.
676 posted on 05/18/2002 3:36:18 PM PDT by Buckeroo
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To: Roscoe
Your Laconian act is getting tiresome. Please explain in detail why my posts failed of citation, since I dragged in several SCOTUS cases and gave references in my quotation of Scarry's article.
677 posted on 05/18/2002 3:37:19 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Roscoe
Now answer the questions I put to you in 669, please.
678 posted on 05/18/2002 3:40:45 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Buckeroo
The Bill of Rights is applied to all states

Your ignorance is showing.

"In order to limit the powers which it was feared might be claimed or exercised by the Federal government, under the provisions of the Constitution as it was when adopted, the first ten amendments to that instrument were proposed to the legislatures of the several states by the first Congress on the 25th of September, 1789. They were intended as restraints and limitations upon the powers of the general government, and were not intended to and did not have any effect upon the powers of the respective states. This has been many times decided." -- U.S. Supreme Court MAXWELL v. DOW, 176 U.S. 581 (1900)

679 posted on 05/18/2002 4:13:52 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: lentulusgracchus
Or do you just love the idea of centralized government, and will argue anything anytime in favor of it?
680 posted on 05/18/2002 4:15:29 PM PDT by Roscoe
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