Kindergartener's stripper-mom in church-school flap

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, May 16, 2002

[cake_crumb]

"You violated FR Rule 2 - any mention of a Prince Albert MUST be accompanied by a link to a picture of one, so everybody can wince and get grossed out"

ACK. I'm already grosseth-ed out enough, thank you.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

If she's trying to get out of the sex industy, then she needs support and help. If she's not trying to get out, then the daughter needs to be shown that there are other ways to live, so that she doesn't follow the same path.

I wonder if she taught as a Sunday school teacher at the church while she was stripping? Apparently they thought enough about her as a person, morals-wise, maturity-wise, etc., to let her teach Sunday school to kids.

Is it possible you can strip for a living and still be a decent, though fallible, christian/human being?

[SCalGal]

I've been told that I'm going to Hell, so I guess I wouldn't know. I do, however, know right from wrong, and I know what it feels like to go to bed hungry because you gave your kid the last of the leftovers.

It's one thing to tell people how to live their lives, and another to be in their position and have to make the decisions that they've made.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

I've been told that I'm going to Hell, so I guess I wouldn't know.

No, I think you've given me your anwswer. A good one too.

[weegee]

Some of us Christians work on the tolerance and forgiveness aspect, as opposed to the pharisaic parts.

Forgiveness can come when the sinner repents. To continue about his or her merry way shows no act of contrition. See Bill Clinton.

The prodigal son who wanders and squanders his money only to return for the feast of the slaughtered calf and then off to party around the world again is not a changed person.

[Redcloak]

She signed and then broke a contract. "Thou shalt not lie" is still binding upon Christians.

[guywiththeanswer]

All the posts on this topic have much to be desired. There are several issues you all are missing. No where in the Bible does it say that stripping is immoral. It is a legitimate profession. She only has to work a few days a week - the rest of the week she is raising her daughter. Paying for a christian education for her daughter... sure is a lot better than sending her kid to the govt reeducation camps called public schools. It sure is better than a mother or father who dumps their kid in daycare all day while they go to some 9 to 5 job. Those parents sure aren't raising their kids with any sort of moral background. The parents who stick their kids in daycare are just showing their own kids that they don't care enough about them to raise their kids themselves... cowards. The illogical commentary on the ' moral ' question is just plain ridiculous. There are hundreds and thousands of people who are employed by corporations that arguably could be classified as ' immoral ' such as: Advertising Firms -- sell us things we don't really need - satisfying our greed. Far as I know greed is an abombination in God's eyes. Law Firms -- contribute to the destruction of our law system Weapons manufacturing companies - govt and commercial weapons mame and kill. I am totally pro gun, pro NRA, but bombs and guns are used to murder humans in war -- I think if I had to choose between killing for a living, or stripping, I would choose stripping. Automobile companies -- cars kill thousands of people a year Nurses / Doctors -- contribute to over 200,000 deaths a year Fast Food restaurants -- contribute to the disgusting fattening of Americans. Leading to death. Drug Companies - willingly market drugs so as a society we become dependant on drugs for all sorts of reasons - so those that take these drugs are like sheeple. You can argue the ' moral ' issue on everything under the sun. This woman is providing a legit service to men / women. The men and women go to her place of employment, get hot and bothered, and come home ready to make love to their husbands and wives... if the husbands and wives would do their job... in the bedroom - and take care of the body God gave them - going to the gym, and eating right -- the sex industry would be non existent... since they don't, men and women go to strip bars. I applaud this woman, and I hope she sues and wins. Nowhere in the school's creed does it say that the parents can not strip as a profession. A woman's body should be worshipped, ( biblical - Song of Solomon ) if of course it is worth looking at. There are so many fat, hideous looking women - it's no wonder men go to strip clubs - so they can view REAL WOMEN. If you can't wear a thong bikini on the beach, and bounce a quarter off your stomach and your butt -- SHAME ON YOU ... GOD IS VERY DISPLEASED!!!! God states CLEARLY THAT YOUR BODY IS A TEMPLE, AND YOU SHOULD TAKE CARE OF IT. So, get off your lazy butts and get to the gym -- SHOW YOUR CHILDREN THAT YOU HAVE PRIDE IN YOUR APPEARANCE. It is no wonder the children of today have such low self esteem... thanks to their parents. Eating fastfood, and filling your ' TEMPLE ' with toxins that cause diseases - diabetes etc... is IMMORAL. The people who fit this category are just committing slow suicide -- children learn from their parents. This woman is a parent that many of you should model yourselves after. She is showing her daughter the importance of excellent health, the importance of raising your own children - not letting the govt do it, demonstrating the importance of a christian education. And most importantly she is there for her child which is a lot more than I can say about the rest of you that are bashing her. Her child is going to remember all the quality time that they had together... the rest of you all, and your kids are just going to remember that you dragged them out of bed so you could drop them off at a strange place so you can go to your dead end jobs -- while letting some stranger raise your kids... your kids will have such great memories of daycare ... but will have no memories of their own parents who are supposed to be the ones to raise and teach.... now that is what I call immoral. Note: The only way her profession was discovered was that one of the school's educrats went there to get their rocks off, and saw here there. What a bunch of hypocrisy.

[Harrison Bergeron]

Christianity: "There is no way to the Father but through Me."

Fundamentalism: There is no way to the Father but through us."

[Woahhs]

Yeah. I figured you were a newbie.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

Holy Crap! I dig your take, but for the Love of Mike, learn some formatting. That is, if you plan on sticking around awhile.

[Prodigal Daughter]

I'm sorry!

[weegee]

There was a recent article here in Houston about a lesbian couple who were frustrated by their failure in trying to get a church to accept homosexuality.

I say that we all need to swallow our pride, get ready for stress, and join the Democrat party. Not just voting in the primaries but turning out for party meetings.

When asked what positions you hold, share with them your conservative principals. When asked, "what the hell do you think you are going to accomplish here", reply "I'm trying to change the party from within". See where that gets you. A lot of people seem to be trying it with the church.

By the way, if anyone here does take this advice, remember to vote in the general election for the candidate who most holds your positions on the issues even if it means crossing back over party lines to vote for Republicans ;^)

[Woahhs]

It never ceases to amaze me how those who subscribe to no formal religious doctrine get so much satisfaction from pontificating to those who do, and how they do it.

[Prodigal Daughter]

Maybe your arguments would work in Thailand, (or the Democratic Underground), not here.

[xsmommy]

okay, so not unlike the THONG thread, i get sucked back to the stripper thread...what is a prince albert? fill me in....

[xsmommy]

Is it possible you can strip for a living and still be a decent, though fallible, christian/human being?

of course.

[guywiththeanswer]

What does being new have to do with anything. The topic was loaded... so I offered logic to battle the illogical.

[xsmommy]

i do not think the girlie's pic is circumstantial evidence of anything. i would complain and i am not intimidated by the stripper's looks.