Kindergartener's stripper-mom in church-school flap

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, May 16, 2002

[freebilly]

Lord knows the innocent must be punished for the sake of the guilty. Someone once said 'suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not." Maybe someone should tell the pastor about that one.

The child has been kicked out of a private school, not the church. There's a huge difference.

No one is forbidding the child to learn about Christ in the Church. She's being prevented from learning about Math in a tuition based private school.

[xJones]

I've been agreeing with you, which means we're both right. :) The school should have finally just said okay to letting the child stay for the last month, but the mother's conduct in this is really worrying.

Cole did, however, agree to provide certain facts about the case that had not been disclosed by the mother when she contacted the local television station about the situation.

The mom had contacted the station and only told them that the school had given her one week to get her daughter out because mommy is a part-time stripper.

"The school offered to waive the last month's tuition for the student so the young girl could remain in school to the end of the year if the mother would quit her job as a strip-tease dancer. They also offered to support the mother and walk 'hand in hand' with her as she worked through the spiritual issues involved and sought to better her life," said Hagelin. "The pastor believed that the meeting had been well-received by the mother, but the next thing he knew he was getting calls from the local media...

Reporter George Franco of KOVR told Hagelin that the mother has retained legal counsel and is considering filing a motion for an immediate injunction to have the child remain in school while the mother continues to work as a stripper.

This woman is acting in very bad faith. SHE contacted the media, told a very conviently short version, and then hired a lawyer. She's nothing but trouble, God help the child. Even if the school could make an exemption in this one case, "mommy"'s got more problems than just stripping.

[flyervet]

I am sure she is a lovely woman, she just needs to quit that job.

Why? So she and her child can live their lives in pious poverty? Either way, the kid is out of school. If the mom quits stripping, she can't afford the school (and probably not much of anything else, for that matter). If she doesn't, the school kicks her kid out. What a sad situation.

I noticed you didn't address my question as to whether you would give a former stripper with little or no skills and little or no education a job over the dozens, if not hundreds, of applicants with skills, education and experience who are now available due to the Clinton recession. Sometimes not giving an answer is an answer in and of itself. If you wouldn't be willing to give this woman a job over any number of qualified, willing applicants without a background in the sex industry, why would you expect someone else to?

[ZinGirl]

wow...I'm new here and all...but those are some bold words, I'm thinking....

but Buffet is Purgatory

so that means he's got a shot at being THE music in heaven?

but definitely....B. Spears, N'Sync is 'currently playing' in hell...

[bvw]

SHE contacted the media, told a very conviently short version, and then hired a lawyer.

She's a real marketing expert! That strip club will be packed with clients tipping well to get a poke at her g-string.

[freebilly]

Someday a lawyer will file a lawsuit against God and Christ for only allowing Christians into Heaven....

[twigs]

So she and her child can live their lives in pious poverty?

No excuse. I was a single parent for 12 years and for much of that time, we did live in virtual poverty. However, my church helped and even chipped in so that my daughter could go to Christian school for awhile. When a child lives with just one parent, that parent has an extra responsbility to live a morally exempliary life. A very special, close relationship often exists between single moms and their children, particularly if they only have one. This is a choice that mother is making and she is the one taking steps to ruin her child's life. So what if she took a job that meant she couldn't go around hiring lawyers? Her daughter deserves a lot better and isn't getting it.

[xJones]

I hadn't thought of that. She might consider incorporating a "kindergarten" strip routine in her act and cash in on that. Nothing like publicity, bad or otherwise, and attacking a church school could be trendy.

[ZinGirl]

hmmm....interesting.....do you think that's what stripper mommy dances to? (assuming she works afternoons...hahaha)

[flyervet]

i can see we are never going to agree here, because i happen to think it is not necessary to strip for a single mom to earn a living.

I don't, either. Why do you insist on addressing statements you only wish I have made?

i know many single moms, don't know any who strip.

So do I. They make many sacrifices and tough choices, and wish they could make more money, have more flexible schedules, or get started in a career with an actual advancement path. Most folks I know listen sympathetically and would consider it rude to say, "Well, why don't you just find a different job then?", knowing that work, family, and life in general are more complicated than a simple, black and white answer can address.

so sorry, we will just have to agree to disagree.

Or, you could actually agree that on this point, we do in fact agree. :-)

my point about the cleaning lady job was just to take the most disagreeable job imaginable (and i HAVE a cleaning lady, because i find cleaning so disagreeable!)and say i would do whatever it took, in a LEGITIMATE realm, in order to educate my child.

Maybe you should ask your cleaning lady if she is able to send her children to private school. Perhaps her perspective might be enlightening.

and perhaps it is unrealistic to think private education is possible (though, my kids catholic school does offer assistance to those who cannot afford the tuition) but public education supplemented by PARENTAL instruction in morals and values, would do just fine also.

If you were working multiple shifts to make ends meet for you and your child(ren), where would you find the time to supplement their education?

not everyone is as blessed as i am, to be able to send my kids to a private, religious school (and that is why i am a HUGE FAN of vouchers), but dang it, public school accompanied by strong moral instruction provided by a parent, is preferable to stripping to pay the christian school bill.

Absolutely. But then, stripping is preferrable to starvation or going on welfare.

[xsmommy]

i thought i answered that question, it was certainly not an intentional dodge. yes i would employ her, as i said, if i were the headmaster of the school. Now i am an attorney, i could not hire her to try CASES, but i would do my best to help her get some training of some sort, to get a job that did not require disrobing. GOOD GRIEF, you would swear that the only possible employ out there was stripping. how come i don't KNOW ANY if such is the case???

[Hemingway's Ghost]

hmmm....interesting.....do you think that's what stripper mommy dances to?

Nope. "Closer My Wand To Thee."

[xJones]

However, my church helped and even chipped in so that my daughter could go to Christian school for awhile.

I've known parents to work their day jobs and then work as school janitors at night for free tuition for their kids at Christian schools. Many Christian schools will work with the parents on a work barter system.