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Sadly, none of the neighboring Arab countries want the so called Palestinians on their property.
1 posted on 05/02/2002 10:32:02 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Good for Armey. And NO! Don't tone it down. Spell it out loud and clear!
2 posted on 05/02/2002 10:34:08 AM PDT by holyscroller
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LOL, Armey is taking a tougher position than any politicians in Israel are. Not sure what conclusion to draw.
3 posted on 05/02/2002 10:35:48 AM PDT by Honestfreedom
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Finally someone said it. If tha arab countries want a "palestine" so bad they can pony up their own land to let them build one.

Israel took that land fair and square in a war. It's theirs.

4 posted on 05/02/2002 10:39:25 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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Armey noted Arab nations have large tracts of unsettled territory where the Palestinians could build a nation.

With the caveat that much of that land strongly resembles Death Valley.

I think Saddam should put his money where his mouth is and offer the Palestinians a homeland. After all, he lost most of his Republican Guard in 1991 and he needs a new supply of willing volunteers. And it would give us the advantage of knowing 98% of the world's terrorists live in one country.

5 posted on 05/02/2002 10:39:38 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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The US Congress will vote today on a proposal to recognize the West Bank as sovereign territory belonging to the State of Israel.

That takes some guts. I'd love to see this one pass.
6 posted on 05/02/2002 10:41:42 AM PDT by July 4th
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Armey is wrong on this, and not just because of the substance of it. He's wrong because foreign policy initiatives should come out of the Adminsitration. We don't need 535 Secretary of State wannabes on Capitol Hill.
17 posted on 05/02/2002 10:51:14 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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Good for him. Good thread and this is what needs to be done. Where is the rest of the voices from the republicans?

Palestinians should move to unsettled Arab lands


19 posted on 05/02/2002 10:52:16 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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Rep. Richard Armey, the Republican Congressional leader, said the Palestinians should build their national home within a neighboring Arab country.

I'll second that motion.

25 posted on 05/02/2002 10:56:35 AM PDT by b4its2late
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Didn't Jordon and Lebanon already kick them out? They are squaters and other countries kick them out and Israel is being forced to take them.
27 posted on 05/02/2002 10:56:56 AM PDT by Texas Mom
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Any land the pallies tread on becomes "unsettled".
31 posted on 05/02/2002 11:01:53 AM PDT by SmithW6079
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Armey has backed off of his statement yesterday.
33 posted on 05/02/2002 11:02:49 AM PDT by miamimark
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True and this also dangerous for the administration the middle east and every American. Whether you agree with this proposal or not Congress shouldn't be intervering with the administration. They either railroad the administration in going along with it at the expense of the larger war at stake here or it looks like the US gov't is in chaos and can't come to any decisive opinion. CONGRESS STAY THE HELL OUT!
41 posted on 05/02/2002 11:09:14 AM PDT by Almondjoy
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I wouldn't have agreed with this suggestion in the past, but it's become abundantly clear that the Palestinians, Hamas and Hesballah aren't going to pursue pease. So let us face this fact and get on with it. Expel the Palestinians. Yasser can then squat on his patch of dessert and congratulate himself on his victory, which is exactly what he deserves for his treachery.
42 posted on 05/02/2002 11:12:32 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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FOR SURE--AMEN! AMEN! HAVE THOUGHT SUCH FOR YEARS:

So, Mohammed, let me get this straight . . .

You claim the same God as Abraham.

The generous, charitable, kind, merciful, gracious, extremely Loving Father, Almighty God. And you claim Islam is a religion of charity and peace.

So, You have Medina and a 2nd most important religious city ahead of Jerusalem.

You have abundant empty land in many Arab nations in the area.

Your half-brothers have been hounded, villified and almost exterminated time and again the last 2,000 years. . . and yet you want to steal their land and exterminate them once and for all.

And you think I should believe in your moon god that you pretend is God Almighty. What a travesty.

Welllll, this time, you have approached much closer to far too far. You see, your half brothers happen to have THE BOSS'S FAVOR and He can be extremely jealous about them. You may think the desert can be hot. Wait until HE finishes singe-ing your tail feathers to obliteration. . . can you spell Bar-B-Q?

45 posted on 05/02/2002 11:17:19 AM PDT by Quix
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Arab nations have large tracts of unsettled territory where the Palestinians could build a nation.

Yer damn right, Mr. Armey!
Let 'em go there and blow themselves up.
But then, this isn't about a "Palestinian nation."
It's about a ruthless band of murderers, with the chief terrorist at the helm,
who endeavor to establish a Marxist dictatorship and destroy the Jewish state.


50 posted on 05/02/2002 11:34:36 AM PDT by ppaul
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Soon, there should be a lot of land available in Iraq, Iran, Syria and maybe Saudi land for these poor PA's.

After we dispose of the thugs who rule these countries, we can give each PA family, about 25 acres, an oil well and part of their new nations oil petro$'s. Then they can hire all of the Islamic thugs who made sure that the PAs were poor and lived in hell to become human bombs. These thug nations could have brought the PA's to their countries and made them citizens to share their petro $'s. They did not want that. Like our Je$$e, they needed a down trodden group to become the champions of. Of course, they never wanted anything positive to happen for/to the PA's. They just wanted them to be miserable.

In 2 to 5 years, the PA's in their new home/country and Israel will become great trading partners and neighbors.

I suggest that we start with Iran and Syria first for the quickest results for the PA new homelands. A little Islamic Terrorist backing thug cleansing this month would enable the PA's to start having a new home this summer. They could pick their land in June!

54 posted on 05/02/2002 11:47:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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I'm with Rep. Armey.

Show me an other example in history, apart from Israel, where a country has gone to war five times to defend itself, won every war, and was then expected to give back all of the land it has taken during those wars.

56 posted on 05/02/2002 11:55:14 AM PDT by NCDoc
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Sow the Wind; Reap the Whirlwind!

young Palestinian girl in uniform with hand grenade. REUTERS/Reinhard Krause Palestinian child holding Koran and toy rifle at anti-Israel rally - note child's non-semitic features young Palestinian girl in uniform with AK-47. REUTERS/Reinhard Krause Young boy in Gaza displays a toy gun and a Koran. REUTERS/Ahmed Jadallah
A Palestinian boy aims a toy rifle during a rally against Israel by Palestinian children in Gaza. Nazi theater - Arab kids act out as the terrorist Jew (with Kippa and earlocks) about to shoot a poor Arab Two Palestinian children with fake explosives strapped to their waists at the Ein el-Hilweh camp
Pali children marching in formation over the flags of the US and Israel Young Palestinian boy points rifle during basic training small Palestinian girl with toy rifle at anti-Israeli rally
Palestinian child with pistol Palestinian boy in training camp with rifle and knife
Small Palestinian boy wearing bomb belt Small Palestinian children with pistols in crowd of fighters
Thanks to TomGuy for much of the above.

MORAL CLARITY
An honorable, moral solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict.

Isn't the only honorable way to "solve" the Arab-Israeli conflict through the use "ethnic cleansing?" (And by that term I mean the polite, but forceful removal of all 3 million Pali from Eretz Yisrael -- which is not "genocide", as some on the Left misuse the term.) Let me explain.

The current wave of "suicide" bombers (a misnomer, since their primary goal is not suicide but the mass murder of civilians) is unprecedented and unrelenting. But it should not be unexpected. It is the direct (and obviously planned) result of brainwashing that started with Pali children as young as kindergarteners. Look at the faces of the babies in the pictures above. What vomitous horror - visiting this upon their heads. What unspeakable evil.

The Palestinian descent into barbarism does not have some dimly-lit origin. The homicidal-bombers are not some unforseen phenomenom that sprung forth from the "hopelessness" of the populace (as the PA "leaders" would have us believe). They are part and parcel of the war machine created by the PA to wreak systematic havoc on Israel. Someone paid to have the Pali youth trained -- or more accurately, brainwashed -- in "martyrdom". Someone paid to have the explosives acquired and the bombs made. Someone paid to have surveillance put on weak spots in Israeli defenses. Someone paid to have these weapons stored and then distributed to the homicidal-bombers. Someone paid to have videotapes made of the bombers' farewell messages. Someone paid to have these homicidal-bombers transported across security lines. Someone paid to have the deeds of the homicidal-bombers favorably publicized. Someone paid the family tens of thousands of dollars specifically for the "martyrdom" of their children. And, as we are now learning, those paymasters include Yassir Arafat, Saddam Hussein and the Saudi elite.

The PA has not been preparing its people for peace, but radicalizing them for the sole purpose of destroying Israel. The PA has appointed militant clerics who preach hate and "martyrdom". By doing so, they have knowingly turned this into a religious war, one in which compromise is heretical. And in doing so, the Palestinians have rejected the Oslo premise that the conflict is about borders, about which compromise is required. Indeed, as Henry Kissinger has noted: The result of Arafat's strategy of hatred is now known: Pali society cannot co-exist in peace with Israel. Recent polls tell the story clearly. Over 87% of the Palis support the murder of Israeli men, women, and children, even babies. Given these numbers and the underlying religious fervor, there is NO POSSIBILITY of a negotiated settlement that would be honored by the Palis within their lifetime. Arafat has filled the Palis with visceral hate to prepare them for unrelenting war. He has brainwashed an entire generation of youngsters to become terror-bombers. He has unleashed almost 10 years of official "judeo-nazi" indoctrination on the Pali people. Arafat has committed crimes not only against the entire populace of Israel, but against Palestinians and their children as well. Truly, these are Crimes against Humanity.

Current conditions make ethnic cleansing not only justified, but morally required. As antithetical as it sounds to liberal ears, ethnic cleansing is literally the only humane solution. To pursue a negotiated settlement is akin to locking a tiger and a human with a gun in the same cage. Assign the roles to whomever you wish, but the result is the same. Someone in the cage is eventually going to be killed, maybe both.

The world community's role in this to date has been to create this inhumane spectacle, this caged, semitic death match. The world community's response going forward ought to be the equivalent of an "Allied invasion of Nazi Germany" because nothing less will suffice to rid the world of this monstrosity. Eject all Arab peoples from Gaza and the West Bank (because once you eliminate the terrorists, their supporters and their families, virtually nobody is left). Then round up the PA "leaders" (including "clerics" and "teachers"), and put them on trial for their Crimes against Humanity. If they are found guilty, hang them in public.

And to the extent that this PA policy was conducted, funded, supported, promoted, or otherwise enabled by their Arab bretheren (notably Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Iraq, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia) then it is incumbent upon these countries to pay for their sins by taking in the Palis. Arabs created this mess. Let Arabs bear the toll for the human misery they created.

Even Tom Friedman of the New York Times has come around, finally grasping the global ramifications of Arafat's evil: What is needed is the elimination of this cancer on humanity. End it quickly before more innocent lives are lost. End it now or it will escalate to Weapons of Mass Destruction. End it clearly and with finality so that there is absolutely NO ambiguity that civilization finds this abhorent. If nothing else, as a sop to liberal sensibilities, end it for the children. Moral clarity demands nothing less.

A six-year-old Palestinian boy holds a hand grenade during a protest against Israel in Gaza City.

64 posted on 05/02/2002 12:14:01 PM PDT by My Identity
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Just say Black September, and the Jordanians shrivel in their boots, or was it sandles? Hm... These people have gotten in line, not just with the Black September idiots, but also those within the Palestinian ranks who preach, and support hate and violence as the answer for all the "wrongs", done against the Palestinians.

With the funding that is being presented by the Syrian's, Libyan's, Iraqi's, and the Iranian's to the Palestinians in support of maintaining the middle east in turmoil. These people have been able to support Fatah, Hamas, Jihad, and Abu Nidal, as well as other factions who "may" propose diversity among the Palestinian/Arab community of that area, have supported the deaths of not only jews from Isreal, but also innocent Palestinians, Americans, and Europeans.

So where do these people get off? What is the right answer in this instance? Since the Palestinians, and Yasser Arafat have continuously made promise after promise, and some pundits (Limbaugh) indicate this is Arafats 35th chance?!

Hello! It's broken, it needs to fixed, the wheel does not reinvented. The Palestinian leadership, and their current method of gathering funds needs to be scrapped big time by the civil West. That's right in my opinion, and it's fair. An Iron Hand will be required to maintain peace in that area. Since I'm a firm believer in flammable ordinance for not only effective force control, but visible recognition that the Palestinian cause is totally whacked.

That's my opinion, and you're welcome to it. Be cool, and freep the radical left.

72 posted on 05/02/2002 12:40:18 PM PDT by Sword_Svalbardt
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The Jews built a nation of prosperity and promise out of that small tract of land called Israel. Prior to the Zionist movement, that area was a wasteland, informally under the Ottoman Empire, but of no particular value to anyone. The Arabs who call themselves "Palestinians" covet the land specifically because Israel is productive and developed. The Palestinians claim to have been in the land "since time immemorial," and yet never did anything to either build a nation, an economy, or a distinct society. Most of the "Palestinians" immigrated to the area (Arafat himself was born in Egypt) only because of what Israel had developed.

What Israel possesses, including the West Bank, was won through military victory in wars that were started by Israel's Arab neighbors. I'm sorry, but what the Arabs lost to Israel, they lost, and frankly, the disputed West Bank was annexed by Jordan as a part of the 1948 war with Israel. In fact, most of the people living in Jordan are technically "Palestinian," so in a real sense, they have their own homeland.

If anyone in the US (Chris Matthews, for example) think that the Palestinians have a legitmate claim on land in or around Israel, why aren't they screaming that the US give back its land to Native American tribes? No one would ever suggest a thing. Why should we impose that kind of solution on Israel?

73 posted on 05/02/2002 12:43:20 PM PDT by My2Cents
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