Embarressed? Hell NO! Defiant Diocese of Cleveland Promotes Gay PRIDE Interfaith Service

Diocese of Cleveland ^ | April 26, 2002 | diago

[Diago]

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[Antoninus]

This garbage has got to stop NOW! Catholic Freepers, put your activist hats on right now and get those letters and faxes flying. The homo-promo crowd MUST be rooted out.

[history_matters]

COPPER SUNDAY LINK.

[Slyfox]

St. John Bosco had a dream one time where he saw a huge ship in extremely dangerous waters. The Pope, at the helm, was trying to steer it between two pillars. On one pillar stood the Virgin and on the other pillar was the Eucharist. This huge ship signified the Church. The dangerous waters was moral decay and evil. I don't think there is a better description of what our Holy Pope is trying to do than this dream of St. John Bosco's. Our Lord told us that He would never abandon His Church, that's us. The gates of hell are surely trying to steer the ship out of any safe harbor. Anyone not anchored on Christ's promises will surely be swept away. We need to pray especially for our leaders. It is our duty.

[Antoninus]

One of the problems is that for at least thirty years we have had a vocations crisis. Homosexuals and other infiltrators have taken advantage of this to gain a foothold in the church to destroy her from within.

Well, if you read Good Bye! Good Men by Michael Rose, it seems clear that the homosexual problem and the vocations crisis are two sides of the same coin. It's kind of a chicken-and-egg problem. The solution? Lop off the chicken's head and scramble the eggs.

[Khepera]

When's breakfast?

[Antoninus]

PRIDE goeth before the fall. Many have fallen and many yet will fall before this is over. I say, anything we can do to accelerate the process is a good thing.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

No body gives their lives for liberalism any longer. It is not getting new recruits. Why commit your life just to be a glorified social worker/psychotherapist? Vocations are coming from big families, homeschooling families, orthodox families. Many protestant ministers, fed up with the heterodoxy on matters of faith and morals, are converting. Some of them bring a majority of their denomination with them when they convert. Some do it privately and quietly. But the number of protestant ministers alone over the last 15 years is into the thousands. Its like the reformation in reverse.

Liberals generally don't have children or at least as many children as orthodox Catholics(see allend's comments on contraception, see my profile page regarding same.)

Those embracing Catholicism (and there are many, unlike mainstream protestantism, which is dying) are coming in because of orthodoxy. The converts in the news clipping I posted are not Catholic immigrants. They are newcomers to Catholicism, and our ranks are swelling, while liberalism's ranks and mainstream protestantism's ranks are dwindling. The same is true for "orthodox" conservative evangelical and fundamentalist churches. The Churches faithful to Christ and resisting liberalism continue to swell while liberal churches dry up and fade away.

[footstomper]

The decent Catholics get caught in the fall out. We need to remember while this whole mess makes multi-headlines daily, it is not the norm for those of that faith. Every group has renegades, and in this day and age they are defiant about trying to make every one accept them.

[Torie]

You might ponder from a PR standpoint (I won't argue theology with you, I simply am not qualified to do that), whether Catholicism is in the fundamentalist box or the mainline box. I am quite confident it is in the latter in the US. And you do know about the deep inroads that fundamentalist Protestantism is making in Latin America don't you? The numbers might quite amaze you.

[Khepera]

You know now that you mention it I see a lot of that going on... Gives hope.

[Antoninus]

The Roman Catholic Church, whose members make up nearly 25 percent of the U.S. population, is growing faster than any other major Christian denomination. The number of converts to Catholicism has risen each year since the mid-1990s.

Why is that, I wonder? I'm convinved that this outbreak of scandal is the "Battle of the Bulge" for the aging Gaystapo 5th Column within the Church. With the rise of EWTN, orthodox new orders, the comeback of the Latin mass, and tons of new conservative seminarians, they're banking it all on a single massive attack to try to break up the traditionalist offensive.

Luckily for us, God will clear the rough weather and dry up their fuel... I wonder who our Patton will be who liberates Bastogne ... I mean Boston.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

I'm well aware of it, thanks.

[Slyfox]

Gray heads overwhelmingly predominated, and kids were few.

I had pretty much the same experience when I visited Seattle, in 1989, as we were contemplating a move there. We went to Mass at 10:00 and figuring that we might have a hard time getting a parking space at one of the busiest Masses, I thought, we got there early, just in case. We walked in and sat down. By the time Mass started my kids WERE THE ONLY ONES IN THE CHURCH UNDER THE AGE OF 16. The musicians consisted of one tamboreener and SEVEN guitar-pickers. We refer to them as the eight gray-headed hootenanny hoot-owls. They played all those insufferable tunes from Dan "The-Bob-Dylan-wannabe" Shutte.

The priest saying Mass, bless his heart, was a visitor from another state filling in for a friend. He gave a good sermon, but you should've seen the look on his face everytime the hootenanny's began to pick and grin. Those gray-headed oldsters did not have any idea how downright ridiculous they looked singing songs that were not even inspiring to young people when they were first published.

[Antoninus]

And you do know about the deep inroads that fundamentalist Protestantism is making in Latin America don't you? The numbers might quite amaze you.

I have a two word response to that: Jesse Romero.

[IM2Phat4U]

Well, if you read Good Bye! Good Men by Michael Rose, it seems clear that the homosexual problem and the vocations crisis are two sides of the same coin. It's kind of a chicken-and-egg problem. The solution? Lop off the chicken's head and scramble the eggs.

Read it, and I couldn't agree more.

[Torie]

Whose he? I did an internet search. He seems to be some sort of Catholic evangelist boxer or something in the US. But I am sure you could help me more than the internet search. Thanks.

[chatham]

Go to the Roman Catholic Faithful website and read their piece on communications between the Clerical Homosexuals in the Church and how they contact each other and set up "Retreats" (Queer gatherings).

They also give instructions on all forms of safe ways to perform sex on each other,I am not kidding.

This stuff even makes me blush,it is so vile,not to mention it is being put out by "Priests" and "Nuns".

When this filth bubbles up into the light it will make Geoghan and Shanley seem mild, as if that were possible.

It is time to organise and take back the church from these evil slobs.

[Slyfox]

Thanks. That surely is "The Rest of the Story".