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Vatican's muffled voice
Boston Globe ^ | April 25, 2002

Posted on 04/26/2002 1:17:57 AM PDT by My Identity

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:07:43 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

HE STATEMENTS issued yesterday at the Vatican provided incomplete advice to US bishops as they devise a policy regarding sexually abusive priests. These were very much documents written within the clerical culture, and they failed to address the crisis of confidence among the laity that is most acutely expressed in the Boston Archdiocese.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bishops; bostonarchdiocese; pope; sexualabuse; vatican
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1 posted on 04/26/2002 1:17:57 AM PDT by My Identity
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To: My Identity
The cardinals and the Vatican did not adopt a zero-tolerance policy for abusive priests. Instead, they favor a new code to dismiss "notorious" repeat offenders.

I find this incomprehensible.
2 posted on 04/26/2002 1:20:47 AM PDT by My Identity
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To: My Identity
You and me both.

Are so many of them "compromised" by past personal scandals, that a "one strike you're out" policy might put them at risk, so they can't chance such a policy?

3 posted on 04/26/2002 1:24:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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Are so many of them "compromised" by past personal scandals, that a "one strike you're out" policy might put them at risk, so they can't chance such a policy?

I assume they are protecting themselves or protecting their comrades-in-arms. Or both. Sheesh!
4 posted on 04/26/2002 1:32:15 AM PDT by My Identity
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To: My Identity
And the United Way is helping to create a gay paedolphile problem in the Boy Scouts that will DESTROY the Boy Scouts......and people will be SHOCKED...SHOCKED when little boys are molested by the perverts the let in.
5 posted on 04/26/2002 2:31:03 AM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: My Identity
"These were very much documents written within the clerical culture"...

I think this sums it up. The old boys are still doing nothing but protecting their own. I was extremely disapppointed in the results of this meeting - although, alas, I was not at all surprised.

6 posted on 04/26/2002 2:43:44 AM PDT by livius
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To: My Identity
How many young lives must he destroy to be considered notorious?
7 posted on 04/26/2002 3:38:24 AM PDT by Republican Babe
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To: My Identity
Yet there is no mention of how church leaders might assist civil authorities in bringing abusers to justice and no support for a mandatory reporting requirement like that about to be signed into law in Massachusetts that would force bishops to report priests suspected of abuse to law enforcement officials.

Massachusetts for years has had a "failure to report law" by which teachers, social workers, medical workers have to report even suspected abuse of children. I am amazed that this hasn't come up...wouldn't anyone in these categories have to report, even if the connection is through the churches, or church help agencies, or private schools? What about lay people in these Catholic environments? Do they have to report?

The purpose of this law was to protect children, not just children who aren't in the care of the church (I thought).

8 posted on 04/26/2002 3:53:16 AM PDT by grania
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To: My Identity
''stay close to their priests and bishops.'' Many Catholics in the Boston area will wonder how this is possible when a bishop has betrayed their trust

Who was it who said "My friends I hold close. My enemies I hold even closer"? Isolation benefits molesters.

9 posted on 04/26/2002 3:57:22 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: My Identity
Isolation benefits molesters.

Sorry about being ambiguous. I should say, isolation helps molesters hide. Scrutiny benefits them by discouraging them from evil acts.

I have heard that two historical popes (centuries ago) had committed acts of sexual perversion, and others have been incredibly cruel. I don't mean this to be hateful towards Catholics, or towards the current Roman Catholic leadership, but just to be discussing a matter of world history. Whatever the Catholic Church may theoretically be by theology (and as a Protestant I go on record as disagreeing with its theology), its high leadership has apparently seen immense amouts of slime and sleaze. If it could happen once, it could happen again; all good people need to be on guard.

10 posted on 04/26/2002 4:08:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: My Identity
First they have to get an infamous reputation as a child molester, then they have to do it many, many times before they can be defrocked...Where is ONE strike and you're out and you are going to PRISON?
11 posted on 04/26/2002 4:35:14 AM PDT by GailA
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Where is ONE strike and you're out and you are going to PRISON?

The difference is more than "a strike". One strike means don't even think about it, don't consider it, don't put yourself in potentially unexplainable situations with children. Two strikes is kind of mellow...first time you're caught, we'll talk, tell you that wasn't nice, and if we catch you again (because one has to assume these perverts aren't caught every time they abuse children) you're out.

And of course, it all depends on how you define a strike... (I really don't see any moral clarity in the statements coming out of that conference)

12 posted on 04/26/2002 4:46:01 AM PDT by grania
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To: My Identity
Many lay Catholics might wonder what they need to be penitent about, since this scandal was not caused by them but by the failure of bishops, notably Cardinal Bernard F. Law, to keep abusive priests from preying on children.

Typical statement by the Boston Glob. The laity there have no need of repentance??????? Suggest they might start by getting rid of Kennedy and Barney Frank. They put the perverts in power and keep them there.

13 posted on 04/26/2002 4:53:10 AM PDT by Renatus
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To: My Identity
US bishops in their meeting in June need to make the laity a key element in decision-making on sexual abuse across the country.

The laity has no right to rule. The Catholic Church is not a democracy. Christ instituted the sacred priesthood to do that. The media, particularly the Boston Glob, and the laity have no right to tell the Church how it should handle this problem before us. We do not need a return to Trusteeism.

14 posted on 04/26/2002 5:00:23 AM PDT by Renatus
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To: My Identity
Well, finally...Cardinal LAW is out.......Reassigned to Rome by June 1st....NO surprise at all...They need at least ONE fall guy....
15 posted on 04/26/2002 5:07:25 AM PDT by Merovingian
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"My friends I hold close. My enemies I hold even closer"?"

The Godfather

16 posted on 04/26/2002 5:17:12 AM PDT by APBaer
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To: Renatus
The laity there have no need of repentance???????

The laity have no need of repentance IN THIS SCANDAL. They've done nothing but stand with their mouths open, aghast at the scandalous cover-ups that have gone on and are still going on (the latest NAMBLA files suddenly "discovered" on Shanley).

The laity have plenty of things to be repentant over, but covering-up priestly pederasty is not among them.

17 posted on 04/26/2002 5:23:46 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Renatus
We do not need a return to Trusteeism

Even if that turns out to be the only way to keep it from getting up to its ears in slime?

18 posted on 04/26/2002 5:28:22 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Renatus
The laity has no right to rule. The Catholic Church is not a democracy. Christ instituted the sacred priesthood to do that. The media, particularly the Boston Glob, and the laity have no right to tell the Church how it should handle this problem before us.

Nothing about the priesthood imparts to a man the ability to know how to manage a large organization like the present Catholic diocese.

If the bishops don't get some outside advice on handling these pederasts (there's still some evidence that the bishops don't want to institute a "zero tolerance" policy), the lawsuits will continue to multiply and states will institute some requirements of their own, whether the bishops like it or not.

19 posted on 04/26/2002 5:34:13 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
The laity have plenty of things to be repentant over, but covering-up priestly pederasty is not among them.

Most of our chancery offices have been taken over by the laity already and the bishops have let them. That accounts for many of the problems in today's Church here in America.

20 posted on 04/26/2002 5:34:19 AM PDT by Renatus
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