Posted on 04/14/2002 12:31:25 AM PDT by sourcery
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Now, now -- We mustn't have the Darwinist's "scientific theory"...sob...sniffle...be attack[ed]..."...by the "fish" people.
A case for the "hate crime" unit of your local ASPCA?
They're rare. There are little insurgencies of evangelic fundamentalism here and there, and you do find Mormons and Jehova's witnesses here and there, but for the most part Europeans see religion as a private matter. They're also not so stressed and paranoid about competition to Christianity, I've guess that may be since they've see what happens when you get competitive.
Evolution is taught in schools, simply because that's where the current state of science is, and it's not argued over. They figure if current scientific knowledge changes, then they'll change the curriculum, not the other way around. Religion is also taught in public schools and no one has a problem with that either.
That could be interesting. I don't remember the scene from The Mummy though.
Not just the holidays, but many of the basic concepts of Christianity.
The subtle incursions and stealth subterfuge of the "occult" (aka Satan and his forces) not only through the Catholic Church, but through other "Christian" churches as well.
I'm sure not his church, of course.
How Satan's (if you happen to believe he exists) lies are being taught behind the academic respectability of Science
Standard theological attack on evolution I'm sure. We'll go back several hundred years and talk about more of Satan's lies being taught as science, like that everything doesn't revolve around the Earth.
How demonic activities are presented as the path to "enlightenment though "alien" contacts and paranormal experiences
Now this one's strange. Wouldn't that sudden realization, that internal evidence that God exists talked about previously be a paranormal experience?
How pagan religions are being promoted through ecology (see Al Gore) and "we are one" philosophies
Pagan religions often have worship or appreciation of nature at their core, so it's logical that anyone else trying to save nature (however misguided the attempts are) must be pagan! Maybe logical in another reality.
How evil is being reinvented as good by psychology AND the legal system...
I can't think of any examples, but obviously anyone who disagrees with him must be evil.
Your guy is seriously paranoid. Might be a funny read.
Should we tell them of the pagan origins of their fish?
"The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has never tried to contact us....." -- Calvin
No, the Darwin fish shows that evolution is an ideology. An ideology which is opposed to and totally inimical to Christianity. Darwin is the atheists answer to the Bible. Such demonstrations are an irrational form of argument, totally inimical to the scientific spirit.
Easy, if it could be proved that certain traits, features, genes coevolved gradually from one species to another, it would disprove design. Of course, there is no evidence at all for coevolution. There is not even a theory for such a thing, but then, that is a problem for evolutionists, not for Christians. This is not an off-the-cuff statement either. It was well recognized by Darwin when he set the challenge:
If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, which could not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive, slight modifications, my theory would absolutely break down. "
Charles Darwin, "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life", Chapter 6.
While evolutionists can scoff at design, it is not new. In fact, it was the theory of life which Darwin was opposing. He only succeeded thanks to tremendous scientific errors misstatements, and outright frauds. These have been disproven by real science subsequently and therefore it is only proper that design should become again the theory of life.
The Darwin Fish is simply a joke on creationists, nothing more important than other bumper stickers. You make the joke even more effective by taking it seriously. There's even a gefillte-fish parody of the Jesus fish you can get for your car, or a Jesus fish with a hook in its mouth.
As I recall from the movie, one of the first artifacts to be pried opened in the pyramid emitted some kind of caustic spray upon the "perpetrators".
As for Hunt's church, he is a Bible (word of God) believing, uncompromising purist.
As far as your assertion of "standard theological attacks" upon evolution, apparently Oxford U. biologist Richard Dawkins should be refering to himself as Pastor Dawkins: "Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having been designed for a purpose...[Every cell either plant or animal, contains in it's nucleus] a digitally data base larger, in information content, than all 30 volumes of the Encycopedia Britannica put together."
I will not cite "Pastors" Behe, Colin Patterson, Klaus Dose, Sir Fred Hoyle and other prominent scientists who are either flabbergasted by their collegues blind obsessions, or the overwhelming and obvious evidence of a complicated "intelligent design" of life, as opposed to a random ultimate lottery.
Hmmm -- as for "paranormal activities? Both Hunt and the Bible freely admit to both malevolent AND benevolent versions. Read the book and discover ALL the machinations and dynamics....
Bon appitite my friend.
LOL -- this I've got to hear...
Almost no religion is developed in a vacuum, and the Mediterranean region was a hotbed of religions before and during Christ's time. Ideas such as a virgin mother, physical incarnation of the god as a pure being, the god dying and being resurrected, a betrayer close at hand, etc., had already been done.
As for Hunt's church, he is a Bible (word of God) believing, uncompromising purist.
That's scary. His equivalents on the Muslim side are causing a lot of trouble right now.
apparently Oxford U. biologist Richard Dawkins should be refering to himself as Pastor Dawkins
I haven't read his book, so I can't comment on it. But from what I have read, while I'd like to see the material, I am kind of hesitant to give money to someone like this. From my point of view, I might as well be buying a book from Mullah Omar.
By Christ's time, the fish had been in use for over a thousand years as a symbol for the Great Mother Goddess in many pagan religions. The whole represents the goddess' vulva (put it on it's end) and therefore fertility, good harvests, etc., while the two crescents used to draw it represent the moon, very important to pagans.
The cross, or versions of it, also had earlier origins with the Assyrians and Egyptians.
Come to think of it, this symbol-hijacking has a more modern incarnation. Hitler used the swastika, long a religious symbol usually connotating peace and love and other good things, for his Nazis. And the pentagram used to mean something good to Christians and Jews.
By what historical source may I check out your "ideas"?
What's extremely interesting is the fact that the Bible had prophecied all the events you've referred to hundreds of years earlier, then fullfilled all them -- complete with eye witnesses...
Now if you are looking for CNN or Fox News to have also witnessed such events, and interviewed said "witnesses", it must be admitted they weren't a source.
Come on "Q" -- hyperbole of this magnitude is not only what's "scary", but absurdly unfounded, and you know it.
Now while pagan worshippers for thousands of years prior to this manifestation may have used a fish as a symbol of "fertility", and the Ancients the Cross (merely the same two bi-secting lines I used as a child to create the "symbol" of an airplane), what matters is the emblematic connotation for what has been the last two-thousand years of such symbols.
It is also interesting to note so powerful are the Christian "symbols", that forces antagonistic to their connotations use the subverted versions to psychologically "help" those who are diametrically opposed to such Christian belief (upside-down crosses, reverse-reading of Scripture, Darwin Fish, etc.)
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n the last decade or so, creationism has grown sophisticated. Oh, the old-fashioned creationists are still around, especially in the Bible Belt. They're the ones who believe that the earth is only a few thousand years old, that God created it and all its inhabitants in six days and that fossils are a product of Noah's flood. In the early 1990's, however, a new breed of creationists appeared. These ''neo-creos,'' as they have been called, are no Dogpatch hayseeds. They have Ph.D.'s and occupy positions at some of the better universities. The case they make against Darwinism does not rest on the authority of Scripture; rather, it proceeds from premises that are scientific and philosophical, invoking esoteric ideas in molecular biology, information theory and the logic of hypothesis testing. 