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1 posted on 04/11/2002 3:27:46 PM PDT by Nebullis
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2 posted on 04/11/2002 3:28:28 PM PDT by Nebullis
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So I guess we can soon expect a Newsweek cover story saying, "Humans and Chimpanzees are Different"...sorta like their old story back in the 80's declaring men and women different.
3 posted on 04/11/2002 3:30:17 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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Jocelyn Elder's brain was obviously an exception to this study.
4 posted on 04/11/2002 3:33:33 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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5 posted on 04/11/2002 3:38:34 PM PDT by Junior
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Proteus (the greatest ape of all) proved that Man cannot be domesticated.
6 posted on 04/11/2002 3:40:29 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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They might be on the right track. perhaps it's not the genome that makes the difference. A Neanderthal man was more like us than the chimps are, but his DNA was more different than ours.

Astrobiologist Keith Cowing says there are "organisms whose genome can be blown apart by massive doses of radiation only to reassemble it a short time later". If I understand that rightly, is the DNA the cause or is it an effect of our characteristics? We might have had it backwards since that pea plant heredity experiment.

7 posted on 04/11/2002 3:41:45 PM PDT by RightWhale
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A team of international researchers from Germany, the Netherlands and San Diego may have shed light on why chimps and humans are so genetically similar (nearly 99 percent of shared DNA sequences), and yet so mentally different.

Too bad more people don't keep it in mind that it's the difference that makes the difference. In terms of functionally equivalent parts a Corvair and a Mercedes are virtually identical.
9 posted on 04/11/2002 4:30:57 PM PDT by aruanan
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Don't know why you did not post the whole article, it does not seem to be from a place where we are not supposed to post whole articles from. The article is too good for just a couple of paragraphs:

Researchers Uncover Brain Patterns That Differentiate Humans From Chimpanzees

A team of international researchers from Germany, the Netherlands and San Diego may have shed light on why chimps and humans are so genetically similar (nearly 99 percent of shared DNA sequences), and yet so mentally different.

In a study published in the April 12, 2002 issue of the journal Science, the scientists noted that the striking difference between these primate cousins is most evident in their brains. The disparity appears to be the result of evolutionary differences in gene and protein expression, the manner in which coded information in genes is activated in the brain, then converted into proteins that carry out many cellular functions.

The brain differences are more a matter of quantity than quality. Differences in the amount of gene and protein expression, rather than differences in the structure of the genes or proteins themselves, distinguish the two species.

In addition, the researchers noted that the manner in which genes are expressed from the brain shows more differences than other parts of the two primates' bodies, such as the liver and white blood cells. Why these evolutionary differences occurred is still unknown.

The researchers first compared blood and liver samples for levels of messenger RNA, an intermediary step between DNA and protein production. As expected, they found humans were closer to chimps in these measures than chimps were to macaque monkeys.

In striking contrast, the human brain showed more messenger RNA differences when compared to the chimp brain, indicating a far greater rate of evolutionary change in gene expression. Moreover, chimpanzee and macaque gene expression patterns were more similar to each other than to the human pattern. The researchers also found unique differences in expression of proteins in the human brain. Thus, humans seem to have sped up the rate of change of gene expression selectively in their brains, accumulating expression differences at least five times faster than chimpanzees.

The study was a collaborative effort of investigators in Europe with two researchers from the University of California, San Diego (UCSD) School of Medicine and the VA San Diego Healthcare System. Senior author Svante Pääbo and first authors Wolfgang Enard and Philipp Khaltovich are with the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology, Leipzig, Germany.

Ajit Varki, M.D.

"With an understanding of the differences between humans and chimpanzees, we may be able to learn more about the genetics underlying diseases that seem to harm humans but not chimpanzees," said Ajit Varki, M.D., UCSD professor of medicine and cellular and molecular medicine, director of the UCSD Glycobiology Research and Training Center, and one of the paper's authors.

He noted that several diseases seem to differ in frequency and severity between chimps and humans, including AIDS, Alzheimer's, cancer and malaria. For example, chimps get infected with HIV, but almost never get AIDS and get only a mild form of malaria, even when injected with an often deadly form of the human parasite.

Varki's colleague, Elaine Muchmore, M.D., a hematologist and genetic researcher with VA San Diego Healthcare System and a UCSD professor of medicine, said the study also points out that the differences between humans and chimps are a lot more complicated and extensive than some researchers had previously thought.

"There are many people who have spoken out about the differences, but they have really oversimplified things," she said. "The human brain is a very, very complicated organ and this study validates that."

In landmark papers published in 1998 by Varki and Muchmore, the two reported on the first known biochemical and genetic difference between people and chimps ? a missing oxygen atom in humans, in a cell-surface carbohydrate molecule called sialic acid. Since then, the Varki group has published discovery of a second genetic difference and have found additional, as yet unpublished, variances involving sialic acid biology.

For the current study published in Science, Varki and Muchmore provided and analyzed RNA samples from white blood cells and from liver and brain tissue of chimps and other primates that had died of natural causes at the Yerkes Primate Center in Atlanta.

Their European colleagues searched for human vs. chimp differences by using gene chips carrying tiny dabs of DNA derived from about 18,000 human genes. The chi[m]p DNA interacted with genetic material purified from brain and liver tissue collected from humans and non-human primates (including chimpanzees and macaque monkeys), allowing the researchers to measure and compare the levels of expression of each of the genes in each of the species.

The comparative data suggest that during the evolutionary process, humans somehow altered the process of gene expression in their brains, accumulating expression differences at least five times faster than chimpanzees and distancing themselves from their nearest cousin. A similar trend appeared when the scientists examined differences in brain protein levels.

To determine if the differences between humans and chimps were indeed more than expected between such closely related species, the researchers also analyzed gene and protein expression in two mouse species that are about as genetically different from to each other as humans are to chimps. They found fewer differences in gene expression levels among the mice, further suggesting that the human/chimp discrepancy marks a special evolutionary process.

"I have now been asked by the German group to help them sort out the large number of differences they found in this study," Varki said. "Using my medical background, I hope to provide some insight into which of these differences might be best for further study. These results also provide support for my efforts to encourage the initiation of a chimpanzee genome project."

Other members of the research team include Sebastian Zöllner, Florian Heissig and Philipp Khaitovich, Max-Planck-Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology, Leipzig, Germany; Joachim Klose, Institut fuer Humangenetik Charité, Berlin, Germany; Patrick Giavalisco, Max-Planck-Institute for Molecular Genetics, Berlin, Germany; Kay Nieselt-Struwe, Mas-Planck-Institute of Biophysical Chemistry, Gottingen, Germany; Rivka Ravid, The Netherlands Brain Bank, Amsterdam; and Gaby M. Doxiadis and Ronald E. Bontrop, Biomedical Primate Research Centre, Rijswijk, The Netherlands.

Most funding came from the Bundesministerium fur Bildung und Forschung and the Max Planck Gesellschaft. The work at UCSD and the VA was supported by a grant from the G. Harold and Leila Y. Mathers Charitable Foundation of New York.

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UCSD Health Sciences Communications HealthBeat: http://health.ucsd.edu/news/

10 posted on 04/11/2002 4:44:25 PM PDT by gore3000
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I wonder how much of our tax money it took for them to figure out that people are different from chimps?
11 posted on 04/11/2002 4:50:40 PM PDT by Rule of Law
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From the full article:

In striking contrast, the human brain showed more messenger RNA differences when compared to the chimp brain, indicating a far greater rate of evolutionary change in gene expression. Moreover, chimpanzee and macaque gene expression patterns were more similar to each other than to the human pattern. The researchers also found unique differences in expression of proteins in the human brain. Thus, humans seem to have sped up the rate of change of gene expression selectively in their brains, accumulating expression differences at least five times faster than chimpanzees.

One really must wonder how a scientist who was so intelligent as to conceive of and perform this study could say the above. How does one selectively change one's brain? Is he implying that pre-humans had the knowledge to do such a thing? Or is this a half-hearted attempt by these scientists to kneepad themselves before the demi-god Darwin?

12 posted on 04/11/2002 4:52:44 PM PDT by gore3000
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So I don't think the same as a chimp. Finally, some proof I can give my wife.
13 posted on 04/11/2002 4:55:52 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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14 posted on 04/11/2002 4:56:19 PM PDT by lowbridge
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the scientists noted that the striking difference between these primate cousins is most evident in their brains.

And this conclusion cost how much?

20 posted on 04/11/2002 5:57:13 PM PDT by FairWitness
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In landmark papers published in 1998 by Varki and Muchmore, the two reported on the first known biochemical and genetic difference between people and chimps ? a missing oxygen atom in humans, in a cell-surface carbohydrate molecule called sialic acid.

Very poorly written. Many sequence differences were obviously known before 1998.

22 posted on 04/11/2002 6:06:50 PM PDT by FairWitness
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the scientists noted that the striking difference between these primate cousins is most evident in their brains

No sh!t, sherlock.

28 posted on 04/11/2002 7:25:59 PM PDT by krb
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31 posted on 04/11/2002 7:35:36 PM PDT by Nebullis
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Thanks for the ping!
34 posted on 04/11/2002 8:07:07 PM PDT by Scully
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35 posted on 04/11/2002 8:09:02 PM PDT by Scully
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"The human brain is a very, very complicated organ and this study validates that."

Thanks for the posting and notification. Sometimes I wonder though. At the moment I believe it can be safely stated that the human brain is the most complicated object known. It dreams of dreams.

36 posted on 04/11/2002 8:17:14 PM PDT by AndrewC
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Humanity: its all in the mind

Human Genome Meeting,
Edinburgh, April 2001

Humanity: its all in the mind

Genetic activity in the brain gives us the edge over chimps.
24 April 2001

HELEN PEARSON

A human skull (top) houses more gene activity than does a chimp skull (bottom)
© D. Roberts / SPL

The difference between chimps and humans is all in the mind. It is differences in our brain's gene activity that really sets us apart from chimps, delegates at the Human Genome Meeting in Edinburgh, Scotland, heard this week.

"I'm interested in what makes me human," explains Svante Paabo of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany. After sequencing 3 million letters of the chimp genome and comparing them with the human draft, his group reasoned that DNA sequence can't be it: only 1.3% of letters are different.

So using tiny 'gene chips' with 20,000 human genes dotted on them, they measured the levels of gene activity, or 'transcription', in our brain, liver and blood. They compared these transcription snapshots -- the 'transcriptome' -- with similar snapshots of our close relative the chimp and an evolutionarily more distant relative, the rhesus macaque monkey.

"Liver and blood reflect how the species are related," Pääbo found. In these tissues, as expected, the human gene activity pattern was pretty similar to that of the chimp, and different from the macaque.

The brain showed a different picture: chimp and human transcription patterns are poles apart. "The [human] brain has accelerated usage of genes," explains Paabo.

The genomes of all mammals are so similar that "it's hard to understand how they can produce such different animals", says Sue Povey, who works on human gene mapping at University College London in England. If their genes are alike, it's probably changes in when, where and how active they are that drives the differences between species, she agrees.

37 posted on 04/11/2002 8:36:31 PM PDT by AndrewC
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