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Gould Strikes Back At Creationists
Indepedent.co.uk ^ | 4-09-2002

Posted on 04/09/2002 11:31:41 AM PDT by JediGirl

Eminent biologist hits back at the creationists who 'hijacked' his theory for their own ends

By Steve Connor, Science Editor

09 April 2002

Stephen Jay Gould, one of the great evolutionary biologists of our time, will publish his "magnum opus", this month, in which he lambasts creationists for deliberately distorting his theories to undermine the teaching of Darwinism in schools.

Professor Gould accuses creationists of having exploited the sometimes bitter dispute between him and his fellow Darwinists to promulgate the myth that the theory of evolution is riven with doubts and is, therefore, just as valid as biblical explanations for life on Earth.

The distinguished professor of zoology at Harvard University, whose 1,400-page book, The Structure of Evolutionary Theory, has been 10 years in the writing, was intimately involved with the fight against creationist teaching during the 1970s and 1980s in the American Deep South.

The arguments have resurfaced in Britain after the news that a school in Gateshead has been teaching creationism alongside evolution, arguing both are equal valid viewpoints.

Creationists still use Professor Gould's theory of "punctuated equilibrium" – which argues for the sudden appearance of new species – to support their view that Darwinism is being challenged by some of the leading thinkers in biology.

Although Professor Gould never disputed the central tenet of Darwinism, natural selection, his explanation for how new species might rapidly arise is often presented by creationists as a direct challenge to the scientific orthodoxy at the heart of Darwinism.

Evangelical creationists in particular have argued the universally accepted gaps in the fossil record and the frequent absence of intermediate forms between fossilised species are evidence that evolution cannot fully account for the diversity of life on Earth.

They have used Professor Gould's theory – which proposes long periods of stable "equilibrium" punctuated by sudden changes that are not captured as fossils – as proof that Darwinist "gradualism" was wrong and it should therefore be taught, at the very minimum, alongside creationism in schools.

Stephen Layfield, a science teacher at Emmanuel College in Gateshead, which is at the centre of the row, used the lack of intermediate fossils between ancestral species and their descendants to question Darwinist evolution.

Professor Gould says creationists have unwittingly misinterpreted or deliberately misquoted his work in a manner that would otherwise be laughable, were it not for the impact it can have on the teaching of science in schools.

"Such inane and basically harmless perorations may boil the blood but creationist attempts to use punctuated equilibrium in their campaigns for suppressing the teaching of evolution raise genuine worries," Professor Gould said.

Fundamentalist teaching reached its height in the United States in the early 1920s and culminated in the famous Scopes "monkey" trial in Tennessee in 1925 when John Scopes, a biology teacher, was arrested for teaching evolution in contravention of state law.

A second creationist surge occurred in the US during the 1970s, which led to the "equal time" laws for the teaching of creationism and evolution in the state schools of Arkansas and Louisiana. The rule was overturned in two court cases in 1982 and 1987.

At the same time, Professor Gould's theory of punctuated equilibrium was being debated among scientists. With the fellow Darwinist, Niles Eldredge, who cited the unchanging nature of Trilobite fossils in support of the idea, Professor Gould presented the theory at a scientific conference in 1971. A seminal scientific paper followed a year later.

"But I had no premonition about the hubbub that punctuated equilibrium would generate," Professor Gould said. Some "absurdly-hyped popular accounts" proclaimed the death of Darwinism, with punctuated equilibrium as the primary assassin, he says.

"Our theory became the public symbol and stalking horse for all debate within evolutionary theory. Moreover, since popular impression now falsely linked the supposed 'trouble' within evolutionary theory to the rise of creationism, some intemperate colleagues began to blame Eldredge and me for the growing strength of creationism.

"Thus, we stood falsely accused by some colleagues both for dishonestly exaggerating our theory to proclaim the death of Darwin (presumably for our own cynical quest for fame), and for unwittingly fostering the scourge of creationism as well," he said.

Not every scientist, however, would agree that Professor Gould was innocent in the dispute, which was exploited by evangelical creationists.

What was essentially an arcane argument between consenting academics soon became a public schism between Gould and his Darwinist rivals, whose position was best articulated by the Oxford zoologist Richard Dawkins.

At its most simplistic, the idea of punctuated equilibrium was presented as an alternative to the "gradualism" of traditional Darwinism. Rather than species evolving gradually, mutation by mutation, over a long period of time, Professor Gould argued they arose within a period of tens of thousands rather than tens of millions of years – a blink of the eye in geological terms.

Professor Dawkins savaged the Gould-Eldredge idea, arguing gaps in the fossil record could be explained by evolutionary change occurring in a different place from where most fossils were found. In any case, Dawkins said, we would need an extraordinarily rich fossil record to track evolutionary change.

Gould and Eldredge could have made that point themselves, he said. "But no, instead they chose, especially in their later writings, in which they were eagerly followed by journalists, to sell their ideas as being radically opposed to Darwin's and opposed to the neo-Darwinian synthesis," Dawkins writes in his 1986 book The Blind Watchmaker.

"They did this by emphasising the 'gradualism' of the Darwinian view of evolution as opposed to the sudden 'jerky', sporadic 'punctuationism' of their own ... The fact is that, in the fullest and most serious sense, Eldredge and Gould are really just as gradualist as Darwin or any of his followers," Professor Dawkins wrote.

The subtleties of the dispute were, however, lost on commentators outside the rarefied field of evolutionary theory.

It was certainly lost on many creationists who just revelled in the vitriolic spat between the leading Darwinists. (The dispute was so vitriolic it became personal – in his book, Gould relegates his critics to a section titled "The Wages of Jealousy".)

Richard Fortey, the Collier Professor of the Public Understanding of Science at Bristol University, says Professors Gould and Dawkins are closer than many people realise.

With some of Britain's leading scientists and theologians writing to the Prime Minister to voice their concerns about the teaching of creationism, the issue has come to the fore.

"It's absurd we are now facing this creationist threat," Professor Fortey said. "It's a debate that belongs to the 1840s. Evolution is not just a theory, it's as much of a fact as the existence of the solar system."


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To: Doctor Stochastic
One I can think of off-hand was Forrest Mims, who was sacked from his column-writing job at Scientific American for his anti-Darwinian beliefs. Here is a good account by Mims: http://yarchive.net/env/fmims.html

I have heard of others, although I would be hard pressed to come up with a dozen.
341 posted on 04/12/2002 4:13:02 AM PDT by NukeMan
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To: Doctor Stochastic
There's nothing in the articles to show that anyone was forced to write something. This seems to be just something you just made up.

Very dishonest of you. I gave links to the articles where the absurdity of the ankle bones is to be found. You can also find plenty of articles by just looking up Eosimias saying the same thing - that a pair of miniscule ankle bones is proof of evolution. Fact of the matter is that paleontologists, science writers, newspapers, magazines and tv regularly prostitute themselves for the sake of evolution.

342 posted on 04/12/2002 5:57:35 AM PDT by gore3000
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To: Junior
Lying doggo...
343 posted on 04/12/2002 6:02:35 AM PDT by Junior
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To: Tribune7,RadioAstronomer
Take a good astronomy class at college. You will see that many applications & discoveries have been made based on the assumption that the universe is billions of years old. For example, the shape of our galaxy was able to be mapped (and it came out looking like other galaxies) based on the assumption that hydrogen atoms flipped every few million years... perhaps RadioAstronomer can explain better, it's been a while since that class.

Many creationists are old-universe while being young-earth, though. I recommend a class in geology and/or taking a high-level biology course (above the 100s)...

High school science education or just general entry-level biology college classes will NOT give a convincing evolution, and that is the kind of education the vast majority of the population has.

It's like... you go to the webpages that say man hasn't landed on the moon. Those websites are very convincing... unless your education tells you better. Same thing with creationism. They come up with a lot of statements and such that appear make logical sense, but they work on very little actual scientific base.

I can tell you that I was a very unyielding creationist until I went to college & found out that all the "proof" the creationists offer in all their books were honest distortions or misrepresentations and work from very little scientific basis. (One example is that they -all- confuse hypothesis with theory, which tells me they don't have much of a higher science education in first place...)

Good luck in all your endeavors, and despite what many will tell you, I do not think there is a conflict with taking Genesis as an allegory. Genesis means so much more than you'd think, especially when taking its historical context, but that's a subject for another day. :-)

344 posted on 04/12/2002 6:33:14 AM PDT by Nataku X
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To: Nakatu X
general entry-level biology college classes will NOT give a convincing evolution,

Amend that to "general entry-level biology college classes will NOT give a convincing case for evolution"

345 posted on 04/12/2002 6:35:05 AM PDT by Nataku X
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To: Nakatu X
Many creationists are old-universe while being young-earth, though. I recommend a class in geology and/or taking a high-level biology course (above the 100s)...

It's not the age of the universe, or even the Earth, that I'm questioning.

What I am doubting is the belief that all life evolved from a common one-cell ancestor. This has never been proved. Some insist it has been. This emotional instance more than anything that has made me skeptical of it.

Actually, evolution has arguably been disproved if Gore3K's information is correct concerning the rate of observed mutations. If the time -- even assuming old Earth, old universe -- is not available to mathematically account for the development of life as we now see it, it seems it would be better science to doubt evolution.

Quick question: is time an absolute or relative method of measurement.

346 posted on 04/12/2002 6:49:12 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Nakatu X
I went to college & found out that all the "proof" the creationists offer in all their books were honest distortions or misrepresentations and work from very little scientific basis.

I agree that neither Genesis nor the Bible should be used as a science book.

347 posted on 04/12/2002 6:58:36 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
Well, since I believe God was actively involved in the evolutionary process, someone more naturalistic might want to answer those very good questions... but evolution is very well demonstrated between many groups of species (for example, polychaetes to velvet worms to arthropods). Putting all these together, it is not unreasonable to assume by induction that they might have a common bacteria ancestor.

There's a difference between absolute time and relative time. Geologists work mostly by relative time. They can determine very accurately that one rock layer is so-and-so millions of years older than the sill or dyke within it.

348 posted on 04/12/2002 7:33:53 AM PDT by Nataku X
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To: My2Cents
The thing about the rigid adherence to evolution is that all of these guys -- Gould included -- earned their doctorates and built their careers on the assumption that evolution is true. Their defense of evolution is less because of solid scientific evidence, and more because they're fighting for their lives to validate their entire professional careers.

In some cases they defend evoltutionary theory because it's also their religion. Sometimes for both reasons.

349 posted on 04/12/2002 7:39:46 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: gore3000
>i> Darwin was a liar, an advocate of Eugenics, an advocate of sterilization, an advocate of wars to destroy inferior species, a racist and a lot of other totally despicable and unChristian attitudes and beliefs. Anyone who supports evolution either does not know evolution or does not know Christianity.

This is a load of crap. You can believe whatever you want to believe and so can the rest of us. Darwin was a naturalist. Where did you get all that other stuff?

350 posted on 04/12/2002 8:14:10 AM PDT by stanz
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To: gore3000
Your links do not agree with your posts. Very dishonest of you.
355 posted on 04/12/2002 10:06:29 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Nakatu X
but evolution is very well demonstrated between many groups of species (for example, polychaetes to velvet worms to arthropods)

But that's what this discussion is about. The evolution isn't demonstrated. We can't show that a polychaete became a velvet worm. We can't even show that a salamander became a gekko.

I'm not saying that it is unfair to speculate that these things have occurred. It is unfair to declare that these things have occurred.

356 posted on 04/12/2002 2:00:11 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Junior
Placemarker bump.
358 posted on 04/12/2002 4:29:47 PM PDT by Junior
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To: Diamond; hunble
Your little exchange makes my earlier point very well: evolutionary ideologues (who use Darwinism as an argument-from-no-design to bash theism) need the randomness to be of the character of that in Diamond's parody for their arguments to fly.

The success of "genetic programming" in which a stochastic search of a designedly limited range of possibilities with a pre-designed standard of fitness suggests by analogy that a stochastic search of a law-constrained system of possibilities could well be the right form for a theory. Of course, that won't do to bainsh the law-maker as some would like. It would, however, be very good science.

359 posted on 04/12/2002 4:35:58 PM PDT by The_Reader_David
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To: r9etb
What a racist idea. Sounds like you think black folks are less intelligent than white folks...Or maybe I am misreading you and perhaps you think Asians and East Indians are more intelligent than "white" people...

Everyone knows that the most intelligent people eat Chicago-style hot dogs.

360 posted on 04/12/2002 4:55:24 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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