Libertarians are lower than dirt.
Posted on 04/06/2002 10:29:59 PM PST by paul544
Stay focused there, paul. The discussion is about illegal immigrants benefiting from my taxes. And why are you so fixated on Mexicans? Are you a racist?
No you got it wrong....If you were born under those conditions you would more then likely be dead. But if you did survive straighten out your own country and stay out of mine
Let me inform you of something, there are many veterans, including ME, here in this forum, who didn't make excuses and served their country, and didn't ask others to do JACK SQUAT for them, as many feel compelled to do now by living off the sweat of others.
The only pantywaisted person doing anything resembling whining, is you.
You make some kind of suggestion that because you served, which I very much respect, that somehow I owe you something even though you never asked for anything. The tone of your reply was that somehow you did something for me and was therefore entitled to call me a whiner. Perhaps my reply was on the low end, but that is how I took your post.
And just why do you get to say what my taxes go to? And has anyone noticed that pauly is admitting with this tax arguement that immigrants are direct beneficiaries of our tax system?
Are you really asking me why I talking about taxes?
Guess what, pauly. As a veteran he DID do something for you. He helped keep you free so you could post inane uninformed unrealistic rants like you have here. What have you done for you fellow American citizens other than suggest they be overrun by the World's disenfranchised?
I'll leave now...you're not educated enough on the immigration issue to debate with.
Here your hint...(_0_)
America is MUCH more than just a paycheck as you think it is. You insult us as a nation.
Interesting, you spew a lot of accusations at your debating opponents, but on substance you are mute.
I would be grateful if you could engage the concepts in this earlier post:
The People of the United States of America have the absolute right to set immigration policy, foreign aid policy and formulate diplomatic relations in whatever manner serves the purposes and preferences of the citizens of the United States of America, just as the citizens of Mexico do in their own country.
Erasing our borders is erasing our soverignty, a fool's errand. Holding that it is "rascist" to exist as a soverign nation evidences no cogent mental activity whatsoever IMHO.
Freedom and prosperity are synonymous, if Mexico and the rest of the world chose to accord their citizens as great a degree of freedom as that Americans enjoy, a greater measure of prosperity would follow. The fact that they choose less freedom and less prosperity is not the fault of America, prosperity, industriousness, freedom, these are not sins for which we owe Mexico penance.
But the absurd contention that the citizens of the USA should be deprived of any voice in immigration and foreign aid policy as if we were some kind of dictatorship is an irrelevant exercise in stupidity, at this moment our border with Mexico is quietly being militarized.
Tuberculosis, violent crime, drug shipments, abuse of free medical care causing hospitals to go bankrupt in droves, flooding of the criminal justice system, massive electoral fraud, disasterously massive fraud and abuse of social welfare programs, all of these ills eventuate from the out of control situation on our border with Mexico, and as our government has not chosen to fulfill its absolute mandate to protect and defend the American People, the blood of American citizens who die as a direct result of our failure to control our border is on the hands of the elected officials who failed us. You argue more should die of TB, from violent crime, from the need to travel ever farther from teh southern border to get urgent medical care, as with every liberal agenda item this notion is direct action in creating hardship and early death for American citizens.
I am all for immigration, and I like the notion of helping our backward fellow nations down south to enter the seventeenth century, but the People of the United States run this show, not some merry band of power mad dictators with an agenda unrelated to the well being of the citizens who work so hard to provide the largesse you'd be so happy to deprive us of for the betterment of our southern neighbors.
Why not strive to export the freedom that produces prosperity rather than seek to dedicate and sacrifice American lives to providing our prosperity to people unwilling to create their own?
Our new administration knows well how utterly the previous administration failed in its duty to protect us, which is why our border is quietly, steadily being sealed by the US Army.
Enough Americans have died as a consequence of the asinine politics of the left.
Libertarians are lower than dirt.
That's the problem: "free" is not free. Liberals, democrats, non citizens of the United States feel that social programs in the US are free.
How ignorant do you have to be to believe that these social programs exist with no cost ? These programs are paid for by the American people.
How about this:
Stop Foreign Aid Now!!!!
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