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10 MYTHS ABOUT PRIESTLY PEDOPHILIA
CRISIS Magazine (e-Letter) ^ | April 4, 2002 | Deal W. Hudson

Posted on 04/05/2002 8:45:54 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

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To: LarryLied
Yes there is. Homosexuals have infiltrated the church, grabbed positions of power and discouraged normal men from continuing in or studying to be in the priesthood. The gays have likewise infiltrated many other institutions, including the editorial board of the New York Times. Face it: the probel is an American problem, not just an American Catholic Problem.
61 posted on 04/06/2002 10:41:31 AM PST by RobbyS
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp;*SASU; JMJ333; Tourist Guy; EODGUY; abandon; Khepera; Dakmar; RichInOC; RebelDawg...

62 posted on 04/06/2002 10:45:01 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Renatus
So,contrary to Antoninus' claim, married priests aren't engaged in a "part time" ministry.
63 posted on 04/06/2002 10:47:41 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Crisis has done a good job following this story.
One troubling fact about priestly pedophilia - that ranking
members of the hierarchy continued to shuffle offending clergy
from parish to parish even after paying out high-end settlements.
One might have thought the insurance risk alone would have clued them in.

64 posted on 04/06/2002 10:53:29 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Khepera
Thanx.
65 posted on 04/06/2002 12:11:57 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp; *CCRM; landru; Peacerose; be-baw; ForGod'sSake; calypgin
Biased media strikes again!
66 posted on 04/06/2002 12:13:09 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: RobbyS
Don't forget Hollywood. Homosexuals have certainly infiltrated there too.
67 posted on 04/06/2002 12:19:25 PM PST by FITZ
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To: LarryLied
Homosexuals have infiltrated the church

I think it's good all this is coming out ---I know a lot of Catholics who aren't giving the Church any more money until this gets cleaned up, including myself ---except the local parish for electricity etc. The bishops will learn that the gay priests must be gone, the Church has had to clean up it's act in the past and survived. Then we need to clean up the rest of society from the gays ----it's hardly only gay priests who are preying on boys, it's the teachers, scout leaders, Hollywood, Congress.... It's time we all understand that gays and kids aren't a good mix.

68 posted on 04/06/2002 12:23:31 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Young Rhino
Pure BS

Wow! Such a comprehensive rebuttal...then again blanket denials is the modus operandi of those defending the indefensible

Actually, Dr. Kopps article contained a more reasoned and factual approach to the topic than your rebuttal. Therefore, I would say his positions are more defensible than yours.

69 posted on 04/06/2002 12:38:53 PM PST by power2
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To: Aliska
It is not about homosexuals getting married!!! They are saying that the priesthood would attract NEW HETEROSEXUAL CANDIDATES FOR THE PRIESTHOOD. A new pool of men from which to select priests.

I know of many heterosexual men who wanted to enter the priesthood and were willing to forgo a wife and kids who could not make it through the seminary because they were deemed TOO conservative. Most of these men then did not pursue becoming a priest. A handful of them either entered a more conservative diocesean seminary or entered a conservative order. The priesthood is not a job that you might find on a job board some where. The priesthood is a dedicated calling which requires the Church to come first, not after the wife and kids, not after soccer, not after deer hunting season.

70 posted on 04/06/2002 12:43:23 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: FITZ
Where the church's responsibility comes in regards to lawsuits is if they let things continue after they find stuff out, they got themselves involved as an enabling part of the problem. Thereby becoming susceptible to lawsuits and OJ juries. IMO

This also facilitates a pile on of phony claims to be mixed in with the real ones.

Some of this problem is that the hierarchy of the church trusted psychologists to counsel these sexual predators back to a healthy mind. That trust in the science of psychology is also what has the church in this position. As I said earlier, this speaks volumes about the lack of effectiveness of the science of psychology to help people with mental problems. Much of what they do is NOTHING.

71 posted on 04/06/2002 12:56:59 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: MSSC6644
True, they have tons of non-liquid assets!

They opted out of the SS system for priests in America as well and those priests have to now work until 80+ and have no retirement.

This homosexuality issue isn't the first issue the church blundered!

72 posted on 04/06/2002 1:02:39 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Howlingly, who is that in the picture you posted?
73 posted on 04/06/2002 1:07:16 PM PST by livius
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To: A CA Guy
As I said earlier, this speaks volumes about the lack of effectiveness of the science of psychology to help people with mental problems.

In the end this will work out for the best. The Church will realize that homosexuality is not normal, and it cannot have these kind of men near children. Also like you said ---modern psychology and liberalism does not work. It's an expensive lesson but long overdue ---a cleaned up Church (and now it has no choice) will be a much better church.

I also hope the lawsuits will be something that catches on and spreads to secular institutions so that schools and everything else will be held accountable for having lax standards and allowing homosexuals access to the kids. It's a serious problem, kids' are ruined by these homosexual recruiters and finally the media is helping to make that clear. Inadvertantly because what it wants is to destroy the Church but the message is clear anyhow that these men are predators whether they'd be priests or something else.

74 posted on 04/06/2002 1:07:33 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
I think it's good all this is coming out

Me too. Catholics have a lot to be proud of right now. People are standing up and not making excuses. A breath of fresh air in America. The ADL, the NAACP, GLAAD, GLSEN and the entire Democratic Party never do that. The Catholic League does, the League is out everyday making no excuses and calling for action.

The Church will no doubt emerge stronger than ever because of the principled stand rank and file Catholics are taking right now.

75 posted on 04/06/2002 1:15:49 PM PST by LarryLied
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To: livius
#64 is apparently a picture of Cardinal Law from some years back. While he's been at the center of a lot of the recent controversy, there is no evidence that his involvement with policies regarding priest pedophiles and homosexuals was anything other than following the then current American church policies and psychiatric advice (at this point). If a priest had already cost the Church millions or hundreds of thousands in hushed up settlements, why would he ever be allowed to stay in active ministry? That just defies common sense. Shouldn't...uh...accountants (in addition to the psychiatrists) have also had a say? Quite apart from the sleazy and creepy qualities of this whole thing, it just doesn't make much sense.
76 posted on 04/06/2002 1:17:45 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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77 posted on 04/06/2002 1:18:24 PM PST by dpa5923
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To: FITZ
Homosexuality is coinsidered by the church as an abomination in the eyes of God. But as Christians, they reject the sin and try to love the sinner. This is old stuff and the Church in general is not into advocating homosexuality. Perhaps they trusted priests who said they repented and would sin no more. As a matter of faith, they trusted those priests where they should not have. At the very least if they remained in the church, put them in jobs with adaults where they could not stalk.

I also agree that a liberal attitute on this issue has hurt the church.

The lawsuits will not be something that catches on and spreads to secular institutions because it is only NOT bigotry if you attack Christians in this country. Others will play the tollerance card at you in court and there are enough OJ jurors to buy it. Unless you can PROVE without a doubt that they attacked a victim.

Your ideals that the same rules the Church suffers by will spread to the public sector is a PIPE DREAM! But one can always dream.

78 posted on 04/06/2002 1:21:36 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: cartoonistx
self-appointed, pompous, elitist, religionistic inscense-sniffers

Ah. There's your real agenda. Fascinating.

79 posted on 04/06/2002 1:57:37 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You'll find out soon enough that the church of God per se cannot be labeled with the name of any earthly city. A church that is both "Roman" and "catholic" is an oxymoron.

Then you won't have any problem with the "Heavenly Catholic Church," will you?

80 posted on 04/06/2002 2:00:55 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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