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CFAA calls for denial of sacraments to Governor Gray Davis
Catholic Family Association of America ^
| 4/4/02
| Tim Chichester
Posted on 04/04/2002 9:01:40 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Grampa Dave
Do we know that use of this hormonal abortion agent will not cause more breast cancer in women? Honestly, given its intermittent use, it will be difficult to prove the link. But I'm sure there is some small risk.
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
... given its intermittent use... didn't they say something like that about abortion, years ago?
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Yikes! Davis is a Catholic???? Another embarrassment to the Church!
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posted on
04/06/2002 9:16:00 AM PST
by
Bigg Red
To: Bigg Red
yep
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
An excellent article. I am Catholic and would like to be on your bump list.
Please correct me if I'm wrong - I thought that the only way that a lay Catholic could be excommunicated was if he/she participated in an abortion. Davis' strong support of abortion is probably grounds for excommunication. His support for gay marriage (which is horrible) is not grounds for excommunication.
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posted on
04/06/2002 9:35:42 AM PST
by
kidd
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Would you please add me to your California ping list? And thank you for this powerful article.
To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Nevertheless, the principle of informed consent would state that it is important to inform women who may use hormonal EC about this possible effect so that they can choose based on the best available information. Regardless of the personal beliefs of the physician or provider about the mechanism of hormonal EC use, it is important that patients have information relevant to their own beliefs and value systems.This is an important sentence. Unfortunately, the far left pro-aborts do NOT believe in informed consent. They would rather deny women information than have a woman "choose" to continue a pregnancy. I fear that more and more women are going to die, become sterile, develop cancer, and be permanently scarred emotionally because the political agenda of the Left demands that abortion rights be put before all other rights, particularly the right to know (informed consent).
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posted on
04/08/2002 12:11:30 PM PDT
by
Gophack
To: Grampa Dave
Bishop Weigand is a solid pro-life Bishop, but he's not the most political or eloquent speaker. I don't know who would be a good choice ... but I agree with you, that someone high up needs to stand up and tell Governor Davis that he can't have it both ways -- he can't claim to be a Catholic and then turn around and go against all teachings of the Catholic Church. Abortion, gay marriage, contraception ... all of these issues the Church has unequivocably taken firm stances against ... and good Catholics must either publicly agree, or keep quiet and pray for forgiveness.
48
posted on
04/08/2002 12:15:54 PM PDT
by
Gophack
To: Gophack
This thing needs to be brought to ahead. There has to be a Catholic Bishop of Cardinal in California who is eloqent and able to say, "I'm sorry, Davis. You are not a Catholic. You are an abortionist! Therefore you can't take communion anymore in any Catholic Church!"
To: Grampa Dave; Catholic_List
Calling all Catholics ... any ideas on who can lead the charge? RE: post 49.
50
posted on
04/08/2002 12:53:39 PM PDT
by
Gophack
To: Grampa Dave; kidd; Gophack; saradippity; EODGUY; Dr. Brian Kopp; Diago; Diago; Diago; Askel5...
We must start with
prayer first!Let us all pray sincerely and whole-heartedly for Bishop Weigand.
Let me suggest that Davis will only be denied the Sacraments after
lay people print up leaflets saying
"I'm sorry, Gov. Davis. You are not a Catholic. You are an abortionist! Therefore you can't take communion anymore in any Catholic Church!" and put them on every car at every Mass at every parish. There is precedent for this kind of lay action accomplishing such a goal.
Now many apparatchiks of the AmChurch will say "Who are you to say this?" But don't worry about them. They are already six steps into Hell as it is. But if lay action sets the tone -- I am talking about huge widespread lay action -- the bishops who are tired, frightened, angry, and afraid -- will eventually follow.
I never thought I would live to see such a day, or imagine that I would write something like this post. But when the flock is without a shepherd, I guess the sheepdogs still need to do their job.
To: father_elijah
Both strategies sound good. I just wished that the shepherds would help the sheep dogs on this issue!
To: father_elijah; Argee; JMJ333; Brad's gramma; Onyx
Padre, your post was courageous, sincere and represents an attitude that must be adopted by Catholics around the world.
Prayer to encourage the return of those who have left the Church ideologically is in order, but there comes a point when it is time to "clear the Temple of the money lenders".
God bless
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posted on
04/08/2002 4:28:25 PM PDT
by
EODGUY
To: let freedom sing
The Catholic Church will create another "Martin Luther," if they excommunicate Davis.
Good! Maybe he can start his own sect and take all the 'Catholics for Free Choice' and Log-Cabin Catholics with him. I think he'd look good in a mitre.
To: father_elijah
As always, God bless you, Father!
To: father_elijah
I will write a letter to Bishop Weigand this week. I believe that he is a good and holy Bishop with his heart in the right place. Do you have suggestions on a reverent tone and commentary? Thank you and God bless!
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posted on
04/08/2002 11:02:18 PM PDT
by
Gophack
To: Gophack
My ideas are:
1) Pray for the bishop before you write.
2) Tell the bishop how important it is to you that he is a successor to the apostles;
3) Thank him for exuding a good an holy character -- which the faithful need to see in a bishop.
4) Tell him that there is great confusion over pro-abortionists receiving the sacraments of the Church;
5) Ask him to speak out with apostolic clarity so the confusion can be put to an end -- since confusion does not come from God but from the enemy;
6) Assure him of your support if he would make a declaration that pro-abortionists and others who undermine the teachings of the Church may not receive the sacraments;
7) Specifically ask him to call Gov. Davis to account because if the high and powerful need not follow the teachings of the Church why should the ordinary Catholic follow anything a bishop says.
8)Close by thanking him for being your bishop, and promise to pray for him daily.
Those are my suggestions. Feel free to use any or none. And God bless you, Gophack, for taking the time to write to your bishop. What you are going to do is very important.
To: father_elijah; all
Thank you for your suggestions. They are inspired and just want I needed. I hope all on this thread will come to the conclusion they need to do the same thing.
God bless!
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posted on
04/09/2002 8:56:47 AM PDT
by
Gophack
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