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President Bush's Palestinian Bombshell
April 4th, 2002 | Sabertooth

Posted on 04/04/2002 7:52:27 PM PST by Sabertooth

ON reviewing President Bush's outstanding speech today on the deteriorating situation in the Middle East, I was struck by the following passage...

"I call on the Palestinian people, the Palestinian Authority, and our friends in the Arab world to join us in delivering a clear message to terrorists. Blowing yourself up does not help the Palestinian cause. To the contrary, suicide bombing missions could well blow up the best and only hope for a Palestinian state."

Let's look at that last line again...

"To the contrary, suicide bombing missions could well blow up the best and only hope for a Palestinian state."

For the first time since the Oslo folly, we see the possibility that there might not necessarily be a second "palestinian" state in the Middle East. Jordan of course, is the first.

This is a very hopeful sign.

Let Israel be Israel.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: israel; palestinianstate; presidentbush; suicidebomber
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To: Sabertooth; ALL
Before I'm accused of being more upset about dead Jewish than dead Muslim kids, let me say that I take people at their own estimation: in the Palestinian Authority schools, they teach their children about the glories of martyrdom; indeed, the careers guidance counsellor appears to have little information on alternative employment prospects; at social events, the moppets are dressed up as junior jihadi, with toy detonators and play bombs.





141 posted on 04/05/2002 5:58:49 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: BOBTHENAILER
BUMP
142 posted on 04/05/2002 6:06:27 AM PST by browardchad
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To: brat
"...am I the only one concerned about Bush's elevation of the UN?"......no, I find it very disturbing.

I find it very pragmatic. We are just using the tools that are normally used against us. By doing so we make it appear that we are doing something, all the while giving the Israelis more time to finish their mission. Dont for a minute think we are giving up our soverignty by going to the UN. It's a PR move to affect world opinion.

As for going to the UN, Israel was created by the UN, get over it and look for your NWO conspiracy under some other rock. This is not some betrayal of Biblical proportions.

143 posted on 04/05/2002 6:08:19 AM PST by Dave S
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To: nocommies
bethlehem and jerusalem under palestinian control?

Hate to burst your ignorance but Bethlehem has been under Palestinian control since the mid nineties when the Israelis traded land for peace (sic). Additionally, more than half of Jerusalem was under Palestinian control from 1948 until the 1967 war when Israel was able to capture the city.

You worry too much. The Palestinians are aware of the value of those sites. They bring in hard currency. Other than terrorism, the West bank has little economic activity except tourism based on the pilgramage of Christians.

144 posted on 04/05/2002 6:22:11 AM PST by Dave S
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To: Sabertooth
"True, but two of the things that might unite them are anti-Semitism and a jihad for Jerusalem. That's what I believe our present mixed message on Palestine is designed to pre-empt."

Our rushing in there, and dropping bombs on them would unite them against us.... I like this current policy- it smacks of "divide and conquor" the ME.

Don't get me wrong; I'd love to make a parking lot out of several of those countries- I think it'd be a big improvement, but our military is still recovering from 8 yrs of Bubba.

145 posted on 04/05/2002 6:32:37 AM PST by SCalGal
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To: Mike Darancette
Sharon wanted 10 days to kill people and break things - Bush gave him cover for that much time before calling in Powell.

I agree completely. It all strikes me as such obvious theater that the Arabs are probably the only ones that get it. Bush is the father between the "good boy" Powell and the "bad boy" Rumsfeld. All we have heard during the Israeli cleanup is that Bush is doing nothing. "Nothing" is a policy when the Europeans are demanding that the Israelis withdraw.

146 posted on 04/05/2002 6:35:08 AM PST by Stentor
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To: a_witness
The idea that President Bush is betraying Israel is myopic. If you believe that President Bush has not discussed his statement with the Israelis prior to it's announcement, you are living in a cave. I have listened to the Israeli counsel and in each case he has done nothing but praise the president for his actions. So I believe if they are not upset by the president when it is their future at stake what makes you think you have a better grasp on the situation. There is a great deal at stake with every decision the president makes. While we do not need Arab support for any future campaigns against the "axis of evil" we do need bases to operate from and alienating those countries that would have to host such bases would seriously restrict if not eliminate our ability to carry out those campaigns. Not every decision President Bush makes will be understood in their full context but IMOH I trust his judgement and that of his team
147 posted on 04/05/2002 6:38:40 AM PST by i are a cowboy
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To: BOBTHENAILER
More like parajokers, hehe
148 posted on 04/05/2002 6:58:31 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
Parajokers

If they're wild, add three aces and ya got a full house. AAAHHHHhahahahahah

149 posted on 04/05/2002 7:07:17 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER
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To: Sabertooth
This whole series of post is deceptive and misleading. Do a service to Free Republic and make it clear where your loyalties lie. Are you Pro Israel, Pro Palestinian, or Pro American. You cannot be any two or three of these!
150 posted on 04/05/2002 7:22:15 AM PST by Blake#1
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To: Blake#1
This whole series of post is deceptive and misleading. Do a service to Free Republic and make it clear where your loyalties lie. Are you Pro Israel, Pro Palestinian, or Pro American. You cannot be any two or three of these!

I disagree.

I'm an American who doesn't believe that our interests are all that divergent from Israel's.

I don't believe that "Palestinians" are a genuine people, and I don't believe that Israel should ultimately put up with them. Jordan was created to be a "Palestinian Homeland" in 1922, on more than 70% of the former Transjordan. One "Palestine" should be enough.




151 posted on 04/05/2002 7:39:27 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
The reason Bush and Sharon "tolerate" the suicide bombers is because we need to avoid unifying the Arabs before we take out Saddam I love your interpretation. I think that it is 100% correct. You would think that after eight years of Clinton's parsing words that Freepers would at least be able to read between the lines. It's called diplomacy.
152 posted on 04/05/2002 7:53:15 AM PST by Eva
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To: Lion's Cub
This is good ... thanks ...

"You are far more optimistic than I, my friend. One little bud in a sea of weeds doesn't have much chance in taking over the field.

As for the prevailing theory that we must give in to the muslims to get their help in defeating Saddam, Bush is dreaming. They have no more intention of helping us there than Arafat has of making a real peace with Israel.

27 posted on 4/4/02 9:13 PM Pacific by Lion's Cub

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153 posted on 04/05/2002 8:18:35 AM PST by Countyline
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To: Texasforever
God helps those that helps themselves

Ah, yes - the most often quoted Bible verse. Except that it isn't in there, and it's contrary to the whole point of the Bible, which is that God helps those who admit that they CANNOT help themselves :)

154 posted on 04/05/2002 8:26:01 AM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: Sabertooth

155 posted on 04/05/2002 8:26:35 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: ambrose
So, President W., when is the US going to withdraw its forces from Afghanistan?

Unfortunately, it appears to be the goal of What's Left of the United States to have as many of our soldiers in as many countries as possible. That way, when we need UN help to defend our "homeland," the sheep will be amenable to the idea, since all of our soldiers are occupied elsewhere.

I feel sorry for the first guy I see on *my* street wearing a blue helmet. They make such good targets.

156 posted on 04/05/2002 8:29:03 AM PST by Jefferson Adams
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To: a_witness;RNmomof7
Here's my take: 1) Bush laid out the futility of the current Palestinian course of action. He asserted, in strong terms, Israel's right to defend itself, and it's right to exist as a nation. 2) Bush urged the Israeli's to pull back from the West Bank. This was so he could lay down an ultimatum to the Arab world: "As Israel steps back, the Arab nations need to step forward, and show they are for peace..." (I'm paraphrasing, but that's what he said). 3) He's sending Colin Powell, which I think represents the best, last hope of putting any kind of peace process back on track. He's also, for the moment, deferring to Powell and Condi Rice on the issue of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, rather than the more hawkish members of his administration. 4) He's showing the EU and the rest of the world that he's going way out of his way to give the Oslo process one last, sincere chance.

What all of this adds up to, in my view, is that he's giving his "doves" in the Administration one last opportunity to prove their correct to trust Arafat. He's giving Arafat one last opportunity to deal sincerely with Israel and work for a final peace. And he's giving the Arab nations one last opportunity to exert their influence on Arafat and the outlaw groups like Hamas and Hezbullah to cease and desist from violence, to recognize and normalize relations with Israel, and to usher in peace. The old paradigm is being given one last opportunity to produce a real peace.

I suspect that Bush realizes that, in all likelihood, this effort will fail. But then he can tell the world that it failed after every effort was made by the US to broker a lasting peace between the pertanent parties, but the pertanent parties don't want peace. And when the effort fails, Powell will have to abandon Arafat; the US can stop playing the game that the Arab world is a sincere partner for peace; we can stop pretending that Arafat is a partner for peace; we can condemn the Palestinians as murderous thugs; we can get 100% behind Israel, who is really our only friend in the region; we can move on to eliminate Saddam, and perhaps have Israel assist us openly in our war on terror. In short, Bush is giving the old way of doing things one last major chance. When that effort fails, we can stop being accommodating to Arab disingenuiousness, and we can get real in our war on terror.

157 posted on 04/05/2002 8:32:09 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: My2Cents
I suspect you might be correct. We will see
158 posted on 04/05/2002 9:19:31 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Sabertooth
Thanks for the post and the point.
159 posted on 04/05/2002 11:21:14 AM PST by bwteim
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To: i are a cowboy
Well if that is what you believe ...
I'm part of the President's disinformation campaign.
160 posted on 04/05/2002 7:16:49 PM PST by a_witness
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