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Got to get tougher in a hurry: David H. Hackworth says U.S. military not making the grade
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, April 2, 2002 | Col. David H. Hackworth

Posted on 04/01/2002 11:06:47 PM PST by JohnHuang2

Every week, fewer American flags are flying from cars and homes. And it becomes easier to rationalize Sept. 11 as a terrible tragedy that happened to the folks in some other town rather than the ongoing threat to our way of life that this century's Day of Infamy really represents.

But out there in the global trenches, the war against international terrorism grows bloodier by the day, and as a consequence, more coffins draped with American flags will be turning up at Dover Air Force Base.

The first round in Afghanistan is still far from over, and then there are rounds two through 30: the running sore in the Middle East, and Saddam's weapons of mass destruction; ex-Yugoslavia, where we have thousands of soldiers keeping that fragile peace; and dozens of other Bad Lands either on fire or waiting to ignite.

This complicated conflict won't be won by the smartness of munitions or the sagacity of diplomats, but by the grunt on the ground digging out the terrorist and either nailing him or jailing him. There's no way we'll prevail and protect Main Street USA without tough, well-trained soldiers.

Having led infantry squads, platoons, companies and battalions in combat for a bunch of years, I know that to make it on the battlefield, grunts must be granite-hard both in body and mind, have the discipline of a Spartan warrior, know the basics of the fighting trade as well as what's on their dog tags, always sleep with one eye open and be able to shoot as straight and as fast as a Delta Force sniper.

But during the first serious fight involving U.S. conventional troops in Afghanistan, our soldiers were far from up for the game. They fought well but were just not strong enough for the rugged mountains of Afghanistan.

The commander of the operation, Gen. Tommy Franks, pulled our boys out of the battle early so they could catch their breath and brought in 1,700 fighting-fit British Marines. The British media recently reported that Franks said, "The British troops may be more accomplished at some aspects of infantry warfare than their U.S. counterparts." The report added, "They know how to walk up mountains. ... They don't expect to be given a ride in a helicopter every time they want to get somewhere."

The poor physical condition of so many of our soldiers was no big surprise to me. When I eyeballed our kids going through initial training last year in a warm-and-fuzzy basic course that's been made shockingly softer than the one I took 56 years ago, I concluded from my visits and the comments of scores of Army small-unit leaders that many of these boys and girls – some of whom could barely do two push-ups when they first reported to the Army Reception Station – wouldn't make it in battle.

Last week, 50 highly motivated recent graduates of Fort Benning's basic and advanced training programs and the storied Parachute School reported to Fort Bragg to prepare for further training that would allow them to join our elite Special Forces units.

"On Monday they took the PT test," a trainer there told me, "and over half of them failed to meet the standard."

So after eight weeks of basic, five weeks of infantry advanced training and three weeks of parachute training, more than 50 percent of this group of young soldiers couldn't pass the push-ups, sit-ups and two-mile run.

"We aren't talking about some way-out SF standard, but the bare minimum required for any soldier to graduate basic training," reports another Special Forces sergeant. "If this is representative of what's happened to infantry basic training, I'm afraid to even ask what the hell is going on at the co-ed basic programs of Fort Jackson and Fort Leonard Wood."

Our generals must bite the bullet and insist that the kinder, gentler standards that have castrated the conventional Army during the past decade be rooted out. Training must be returned to the reality-based standard that used to prepare our grunts to make it through the crucible of combat – or we'll continue to fail when and where it counts.

The Brits won't always be around to pull us up the hill.


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1 posted on 04/01/2002 11:06:48 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: ImpBill;redrock;Travis McGee;GeronL
Col. Hackworth heads up...
2 posted on 04/01/2002 11:07:33 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Hopefully having a Commander-in-Chief who actually is fit, and not a guy who jogs for 5 minutes before heading to McDonald's, and then serves an intern his happy meal, will motivate the troops.
3 posted on 04/01/2002 11:15:31 PM PST by Russell Scott
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To: JohnHuang2
"Every week, fewer American flags are flying from cars and homes.
And it becomes easier to rationalize Sept. 11 as a terrible tragedy that happened to the folks in some other town rather than the ongoing threat to our way of life that this century's Day of Infamy really represents."

Sad but true.
Personally I have flown the flag daily and/or had at least had a flag decal on a window wherever I have lived.
Same with any vehicle (decal) I have owned.
Why people would stop now is beyond my comprehension.
The flag is a symbol of our Freedom.
And our Freedom is in danger, yet many Americans would rather show continual support for their favorite sports club.
4 posted on 04/01/2002 11:26:32 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Bump
5 posted on 04/01/2002 11:33:15 PM PST by The Westerner
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To: Russell Scott
Hopefully having a Commander-in-Chief who actually is fit, and not a guy who jogs for 5 minutes before heading to McDonald's, and then serves an intern his happy meal, will motivate the troops.

The CIC is going to have to do some full scale shake ups first in the Pentagon from the top down. This is the same General Franks I believe who gave us the explanation for the COLE bombing. The bungled communications fiasco? Battle readiness and fitness of the troops is a leadership problem from the Generals down to the Sgts who are now scared stiff to offend anyone due to persicution and prosicution. It's the military not a social club for political correctness. More tradition methods of training must be brought back or we are going to be in deep trouble. We can't afford wasting time for a study on the matter either as it's common sense.

The work horse foot soldier trained in basic combat skills is a must. It's been nearly 7 months since 9/11. Even recruits coming in from that time should be about ready and seasoned troops should be training in the western mountains at high altitudes.

What we are seeing is the negliance of military readiness for the past 13 years coming home to roost. The military either must be standing ready and battle conditioned or it is useless. We should be going through a military strenght build up in equipment and troops. We have yet to see that happen either. We should not be falling back on our National Guard and Reserves as Battle Ready Units. This has been the case since the Gulf War. It is not a workable solution to continue in this manner. Troops and equipment are over extended, over worked, and over deployed which accounts also for lack of training time and down time for repairs. The cost in lives and money will be great if the current problems are not quickly resolved.

6 posted on 04/01/2002 11:36:27 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Personally I have flown the flag daily and/or had at least had a flag decal on a window wherever I have lived. Same with any vehicle (decal) I have owned. Why people would stop now is beyond my comprehension. The flag is a symbol of our Freedom. And our Freedom is in danger, yet many Americans would rather show continual support for their favorite sports club.

My sentiments exactly.

7 posted on 04/01/2002 11:40:55 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: cva66snipe
BTTT!
8 posted on 04/01/2002 11:43:40 PM PST by Balata
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
I know what you mean. I personally bought and distributed flag patches to every one on my kids' teams to wear on their jerseys. Americans are soft and have the attention spans of chameleons. We have not done enough to mobilize the schools to imbue our kids with patriotism and love of country. There are fewer and fewer classrooms with pictures of Washington as well as flags for them to pledge allegiance to. I wonder if there are any organizations that promote and distribute flags and pictures of our founders to schools. Its a disgrace.
9 posted on 04/02/2002 12:23:43 AM PST by HockeyPop
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To: cva66snipe
Semper Fi to your post! The first thing that needs to be done (but will not be) is remove all females from anywhere near combat arms training!
10 posted on 04/02/2002 12:26:02 AM PST by fortheDeclaration
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To: Balata
If anybody thinks our National Guard Units should be deployed overseas in any capacity into a war zone should consider a few things. Typical Army NG units are about 50% Army vets and the rest are likely either Air Force or Navy. I served in both the Navy on active duty and in an Army National Guard Reserve Unit in a Howitzer Battery.

Serious food for thought. In my 1970's Navy Boot Camp I saw a weapon for 6 hours in boot camp. That was sufficent for my job. Afterward for some extra money I joined the guards. I held my first M-16 at that time. No formal combat training. I was assigned as an ammo driver. They held a class on map reading and I was offered forward observer because I could read a grid map and shoot an azmuith. Though I only stayed in the unit a year I realize the danger I would impose on others in an active combat unit. That was when National Guards were kept home for the governors use. The Reagan years.

After Reagan left office we started a dangerous and downward precedent in military deployments. Reserve unit deployments were the norm rather than the exception to the rule. The origional intent of most reserves was filling in state side billets not reliefs for comabt missions. In a World War yes I can see sending all you have that can walk. But to continue this charade that this somehow equals the military strenght to operate as we have been the past 12 plus years is insane. Look at the carrier that just came home. 150 days at sea without a port. No days off away from it. Folks thats dangerous. Bad hours, bad tempatures, and bad tempers typical of a 6 month deployment under good conditions compounded by a battle ready material condition.

A steaming carrier is a 24 hour a day operation 7 days a week. Keeping one at battle stations for that long equals in time worked by the crew over 2 years in a normal work enviroment. It's not good to work a crew or equipment like this. Look for it to be re-deployed by this time next year instead of 18 months home.

A worse symptom look at the KENNEDY. Some brass in the Pentagon should have been ripped of stars for that one. KENNEDY is the newest conventional powered carrier we have. Our ships are literally either being neglected {underfunded and under maintained} or ran to early graves to cover these extended deployments.

We and our government ask those who fight the enemy their very best in preformance. We owe them the means to do so in the safest and most reliable manner possible. I've read another horror story about readiness along the lines of the KENNEDY it occured in mid 1993.

For those of us in here who are Navy vets we have to wonder why a ship like the COLE was 2 days out from fleet alone? We have to wonder why it could not refuel at sea. Why are we taking our most valued Naval assets through the Suez as a common means to cover the Indian Ocean? I'm still asking the same questions I was over 2 years ago and see no answers to these problems coming. We had a 911 wake up call that we are indeed a nation subject to attack on our very soil.

Pearl Harbor brought a sleeping military to full force in days and rapid build up. We slacked between WW1 & WW2 Japan saw us as weak. We did enjoy two hemisphere readiness capacites up till about 1992. Since then it has been a mad race to see who can reduce and cut our military the quickest. That actually started in 1989. Sure there was pork then. Now we are scrounging for used parts. Answers are not going to be cheap and neither is a standing ready military. It's past time for a reality check in Washington, DC and start addressing these issues as serious matter and not short term problems.

11 posted on 04/02/2002 12:53:56 AM PST by cva66snipe
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To: JohnHuang2
I'll be the first to admit that my basic training in the 80s was far easier than I expected it to be. I was actually disappointed.

And the stories I hear from ex-drill sergeants about today's training are quite pathetic.

13 posted on 04/02/2002 1:11:00 AM PST by Quila
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To: expatriot
"I saw no connection between the flag and a "crimanlly insane act of teror."

Actually I have been flying the flag since 1969, the year I got out of the Navy.
It was flying on 9/11, before the 1st plane struck.
14 posted on 04/02/2002 1:15:04 AM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Actually I have been flying the flag since 1969, the year I got out of the Navy. It was flying on 9/11, before the 1st plane struck.

I have one flag, and I'm too afraid to fly it. One, it's a family heirloom, and two, is it appropriate to fly a 48-star flag? And then the Army security people here tell me not to fly it in the name of safety from terrorists (anyone who's been overseas military knows the drill).

But then on the afternoon of September 11th (time difference), there was my German neighbor, putting a big American flag out front of the house to show his support.

15 posted on 04/02/2002 1:34:01 AM PST by Quila
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To: Quila
There is a clear answer to your question about flying a 48-star flag.

Under the US Code, any flag that was at one time the official flag of the US, can be flown today as the flag of the US. You can even fly a replica of the Star-Spangled Banner itself, with its 15 stars and 15 stripes. (It is the only US flag to have more than 13 stripes.)

I particularly encourage people to fly the Star-Spangled Banner because I grew up in Baltimore, and know well the history of the land and sea battle there in September, 1814, on which the fate of the nation hinged. Seeing that great battle flag still flying after 24 hours of bombardment by the British let Francis Scott Key know that our nation had survived, and caused him to write our national anthem.

The larger flag manufacturers still make (normal-sized) copies of the Star-Spangled Banner.

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16 posted on 04/02/2002 2:04:51 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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To: JohnHuang2
This is the result of over a decade of feminizing the military and turning leading NCO's and CPO into social workers rather than leaders of a fighting force. The only thing that has saved our bacon thus far is that, for the most part, the serious fighting has been done by our most elite forces.
17 posted on 04/02/2002 2:11:39 AM PST by Solid Oak
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Hackworth is right on this one. The physical conditioning has been compromised by the introduction of women in basic training. Women have a place in the armed forces. They can hold their own and excel in areas they specialize in such as nursing and clerical work. They have no business in the physical area of line outfits.

Another development that is harming the military is the concentration on reserve and national guard deployment. National guards and reserves are backups to relieve the armed forces of non-combat duties, not to be sent out on peacekeeping ventures all over the world. These men have families and jobs and civilian responsibilities requiring their attention. Their use should only be required in the most extreme emergencies.

A point not covered by Hackworth is the emphasis on the spectacular deployment of guided bombs, cruise missiles, and recon drones. This just thrills hell out of the TV audience but is terribly expensive as a means of waging war and lacks the human intelligence on the ground. They still require the special forces on the ground to observe and fulfill the duties of directing fire. Why spend thousand of dollars per explosion via air when an artillery piece could deliver on target for a small fraction of the cost?

We have as a Defense Secretary, Chairman of Joint chiefs, air force men. They have the best intentions, but the reality is we are up against an enemy that requires the grunt on the ground to dig out the guerillas. Yet, most of the emphasis is on acquiring more tech, instead of improving the ground components of our defense or offensive forces. When we see as in Anaconda, 1200 sorties flown and most of the opposing force slipping away, it should tell us that we are pretty innefectual. We have a bad habit in the military fighting the last war while fighting a new war. The circumstances now demand a whole new emphasis on counteracting the present enemy.

18 posted on 04/02/2002 2:23:13 AM PST by meenie
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To: Congressman Billybob
There is a clear answer to your question about flying a 48-star flag.

Cool. Thanks!

19 posted on 04/02/2002 2:28:22 AM PST by Quila
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To: meenie
The physical conditioning has been compromised by the introduction of women in basic training. Women have a place in the armed forces.

I must take exception on the general principle:

  1. I once dated a female sergeant who could take any man in the unit in a run with barely a sweat. She did marathons just for fun.
  2. My wife could do a five minute mile and excelled at rugby.
  3. One female in a unit of mine was the best deuce-and-a-half driver we had (no power steering and a bear to drive).
  4. In PLDC (sergeant's school), one female student offered to lead the unit in aerobics, with all the "manly-men" obviously snickering. She wasted us all in 40 minutes and she was still going strong.
Only #3 was in any way "butch." I think the point would be simply equal standards.
20 posted on 04/02/2002 2:36:39 AM PST by Quila
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