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Christians: Will Jesus Christ Soon Return?
3/30/02 | AntiDemoCommie

Posted on 03/30/2002 10:45:08 PM PST by antidemocommie

The question is very simple. Is Jesus about to return?

Where are we on God's timeline of events that take place prior to the return of Christ?

Is there really anything holding back the Rapture?

What about the Anti-Christ? Is he alive and well, or has he not been born yet?

Before the Rapture, will we get to see the arrival of the Anti-Christ?

Does current US politics and policies help spread the Good News, or usher in Satan incarnate?

No matter where we are on God's timeline, it is never too late to have your sins washed away and be saved. Easter isn't about chocolate bunnies, and baskets full of candy eggs. Its a reminder that Christ was the final lamb. He died in your place to take the punishment for your sins so that you can have eternal life. All you have to do is say to God that you believe Jesus died in your place and you want to be forgiven of all your sins.

At that moment, your life will forever change. God will forgive you of all sin, and you will be saved. Is God pulling at your heart right now? Is his wonderful Holy Spirit urging you to come to him and ask for forgiveness? Don't wait another minute. Turn to God while you have the chance. He loves you dearly and wants the best for you, and your future. All you have to do is ask, and you'll be saved. God has done everything else, but he won't force you to come to him. Its your move.


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To: RightWhale
Dear Right Whale,

That was only one small passage found in The Bible. If you are really interested in this subject you can find more information on the End Times in The Bible.

What is really important, which I pray you will understand, is that we are all going to die. Our bodies will die. Where do you want your soul to live on --- in Hell or Heaven? Eternity is forever. It's your choice.

121 posted on 03/31/2002 8:43:56 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Cindy
we are all going to die.

We can probably agree on that.

122 posted on 03/31/2002 8:49:07 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: antidemocommie
The Anti-Christ is here right now, and WE even elected him as President for two terms!
123 posted on 03/31/2002 9:00:36 PM PST by NordP
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To: PatrioticAmerican
Premillennial, really? I suppose that now you've adopted a new mindset with regard to prophecy, we should all now change ours.
124 posted on 03/31/2002 9:09:44 PM PST by antidemocommie
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To: Mo1
You know, I think I've read about or been told about this Veronica person. Doesn't she have the stigmata or something? My aunt is very much into being well-versed not only on the apparitions (and various things surrounding them), but the numerous claims made about visionaries. I think it all makes for very interesting reading, and certainly (at least in my case), serves as a spiritual cattle prod to remember to stay on the straight and narrow.

One time I was reading about someone who had died. The very next morning, the family had the local parish say a Mass in the deceased person's name, and the night after that, the relative had a dream/vision where the deceased person came and spoke to her. She asked, "Why did you take so long to perform Mass for me?" The relative replied that they held the Mass only a dozen hours after the woman had died. "A dozen hours? I was in purgatory for 12 years of torment in flames, purging me of my sinful nature."

I may be distorting the story unintentionally, but the gist of it was that purgatory (at least, according to this particular vision), is no walk in the park.

125 posted on 03/31/2002 9:15:11 PM PST by Proud2BAmerican
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To: RightWhale
We can probably agree on that.

Not me, man. I'm gonna live forever. So far, so good. :-)

126 posted on 03/31/2002 9:17:25 PM PST by Proud2BAmerican
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To: who knows what evil?
Are they uninformed? Or are they just arrogant?

Both. American Christians seem to believe that the USA is some blessed institution, and fail to see how it is a pagan nation, modeled after Isreal's greatest persecutor, and founded by Diests and Luciferians.

127 posted on 03/31/2002 9:39:31 PM PST by Orion
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To: timestax
But what is the real point of that long post? Is it that if any rapture occurs, the dead are part of it?

This does make it very plain that SOMEONE is raptured, sometime, and there is nothing SECRET about it of course, only sworn enemies of the doctrine sneak that word in, since everyone knows it will cause quite a stir...the only thing secret is its date, in advance...

Yet all that said, I am no dispy, nor a futurist at all, but a historicist.

God will have a dozen raptures, a hundred, at different times for different groups if he so pleases...and none at all if THAT pleases Him.

2 and 6 are Rapture numbers, though, so look for it in 2002, 2006, 2012, 2016 and so on.

128 posted on 03/31/2002 9:53:22 PM PST by crystalk
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To: antidemocommie
Pre-mil, post-mil, a-mil; I am a pan-mil ~~ it will all pan-out in the end. Live your life as if Jesus's return were imminent. He is coming back.
129 posted on 03/31/2002 9:53:50 PM PST by Jemian
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To: Proud2BAmerican
You know, I think I've read about or been told about this Veronica person. Doesn't she have the stigmata or something?

I think it all makes for very interesting reading, and certainly (at least in my case), serves as a spiritual cattle prod to remember to stay on the straight and narrow.

No, she did not have the stigmata .. but I know who you talking about .. that is an interesting story also. No Veronica claims to have had visions of The Blessed Mother and messages to give the world about the future ..

And yes I agree .. Reading some of these stories would definitely serve as a spiritual cattle prod to remember to stay on the straight and narrow .. LOL

Trust me .. don't read these stories late at night ..

130 posted on 03/31/2002 9:57:31 PM PST by Mo1
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To: PatrioticAmerican
If I may jump in here. In times past many people have thought they were witnessing the return of Christ, and with good reason, Hitler was an example of the coming anti-Christ, I really can't blame the people of that time for thinking they were witnessing the last days. Hitler was worshipped by the average German citizen, no one can watch a news reel from that period and doubt that there was a strange adoration on the face of the masses, it fit in with the powerful delusion that God says He will send upon the whole world so that the world will believe the lie that the anti-Christ is God.

The entire world will be afflicted with the same delusional adoration for the anti-Christ that was evidenced in the worship of Hitler by the German masses. I think Hitler was an example and a warning, and he was pretty much responsible for the rebirth of Israel, much to his upset in hell I would imagine. For someone of his meglomaniac ego to learn he was merely a pawn in the plan surely did not sit well with him when he learned of it. God will take man's intentions for evil and use it, turn it, for His purpose.

The difference now is this, we are looking at globalism, not just Germany taking over the world, but the world being taken over by an entity that is growing in power and influence not through war, but through peace, as foretold. "By peace he shall destroy many". The platform he shall rise on will be a platform of peace, "they will say peace and safety, but there will be no peace".

Israel is back in the land and is the focus of the worlds attention, yes, Israel has had wars and troubles back in it's ancient history, but every nation in the world was not entangled in it as it is today. The question of who Jerusalem belongs to is a cup of trembling, poison, that can lead to WW3. Jerusalem has become a burdensome stone for all nations, all that burden themselves with it shall be dashed in pieces.

"Damascus shall be a runious heap", the weapons of war that can fulfill the prophecy of the curse that will be visted upon all that come against Israel are invented and in place, "Their eyes shall consume away in their holes, their tongues shall consume away in their mouths, and their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet.", chemical weapons can cause soldiers of the same camp to turn on each other in madness and blood lust which is also prophetic.

Today, all of the Empires listed in Daniel have come to pass, Babylon, Medo/Persia, Greece, Rome, and now the nations that Rome divided into are reuniting into the "EU", and the "United Arab Immirents" and both or either are the last ones listed and both or either will be ruled by the anti-Christ. Both of these have formed before our eyes, not to mention the growing influence of the U.N. which, as told by prophecy, is an entity that will be both weak and strong at the same time, able to exert strong influence, but weak in it's ability to hold all these nations together because each nation seeks it's own best interest.

Today, as in Hitler's Germany, children are being questioned as to guns in the home, by their own peditricians, everything your child types on the computer in school is stored in a database in D.C., quizzes are issued by the Fed to be taken by children without parental awareness. We could very eaisly be entering into a period where the "Father will give up the child unto death and the child the parents." Your most dangerous enemies will be those in your own household".

It is quickly becoming possible to mark all men so that they cannot buy or sell without an implanted chip, paper money will become a thing of the past, and the sooner the better as far as the makers of chip implants such as Digital Angel is concerned. Is this the mark of the beast? I don't think so, but it is not a stretch to imagine that after these chips have become a common every day convenience that a world dictator can come along and nullify your ability to use this convenience without his identifying mark of alligance.

Between satellites and cameras on every corner, optical scans and such, your movements will be easy to trace and if you are not where you are suppose to be when it is time to worship you will be asked to give an accounting of why you were not on your knees, look at how the Muslims pray five times a day and imagine that requirement for the entire world, in fact if the Muslims get their way you will be on your knees five times a day or they will want to know why not, in fact the beheading of those Saints that will not reject the diety of Christ nor accept the dictators mark sounds very Muslim to me.

Look at how all nations are pushing globalism, no borders, look at how our own President pushes globalism and a borderless world under an entity of appointed officals over each trade hemisphere that will settle trade disputes and keep the masses in line.

Finally, a passage that causes me great worry is the one about the Great Whore that has fallen from her place with God and, drunk with power, rides the Beast. To ride something is to control it. The USofA rides the U.N. and tries to control it, and the U.N. hates the US, the beast hates the Whore, wants out from under her control and destroys her in one hours time with fire. The anti-Christ talks three nations into giving him their power for one hour and he launches a strike on the Whore that destroys her in that one hour, she is identified as the richest place on earth at the time, she is populated with people of different races and tongues. What a void the destruction of the USofA would provide the anti-Christ to step into world power. Makes ya wonder if someone like Ben Laden has thought of this, in fact Ben Laden could also be an example as was Hitler. I hope I am guessing wrong on this one, I'm hoping that big time, but read it and see what you think. I see no need to don tin foil because one can easily believe that all this can readily come to pass in the next twenty/twenty-five years. Much of the stage is already set in fact.

131 posted on 03/31/2002 9:57:57 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: crystalk
I hope we have no Ruptures, eh?!!
132 posted on 03/31/2002 10:23:35 PM PST by timestax
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To: MissAmericanPie
You are right as usual MAP.
133 posted on 03/31/2002 10:25:59 PM PST by crystalk
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To: RightWhale
No, the End Times, which technically in Hebrew is the End of Days, ketz ha-yomim, is a very fixed and specific numeric period. This is not a matter of religious belief, but of fact. That expression, like any in Hebrew, has a numerical value, and in this case that value is 295.

I quickly had to calculate Sharon's new catchword today, and its value is 547.

By definition, the End of Days is the last 295 years of the Hebrew calendar, which ends in 2240 AD at Rosh Hashanah, so the EOD began in September of 1945 at Rosh Hashanah, and extends 295 years to the end of the calendar.

Easy as pi? No, easier.

This process is called "gematria," BTW, in other words, "mother of the earth." It controls all.

134 posted on 03/31/2002 10:34:57 PM PST by crystalk
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To: Thinkin' Gal
No, she was one of those who thought the Antichrist would have to be Jewish, and if he had been, he would have been circumcized/had his brit milah, on that date.

That period in 1962, BTW, is about when I reached the conclusion that he would be a Muslim.

135 posted on 03/31/2002 10:37:10 PM PST by crystalk
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To: antidemocommie
"But as for that day or hour no one knows it- neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son -except the Father." Mark 13:32

Jesus tells us that there will be "wars and rumors of wars", but that these things do not signal that His return is imminent. There will be many other signs, but these do not necessarily point to His return either. They are all things that are meant to come to pass; possibly well in advance of that time.

Plan your life as though He will not return during your lifetime. Live every day as though he will return that very day.

136 posted on 03/31/2002 10:40:44 PM PST by Redcloak
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To: Mo1
Fascinating read on St. Malachy. I linked through to the Bible Code..What do you think of all that hubbub? The site said that it had rolled back a previous estimate of 2002 to 2003 as the beginning for the End Times events. It also was talking about the year 5757, which translated to our calendar from Jewish years, equals 2005 or something. Which made me wonder about the code and its ability to predict Rabin's assassination and date of assassination -- was the date in Jewish or Western form?
137 posted on 03/31/2002 11:00:23 PM PST by Proud2BAmerican
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To: Proud2BAmerican
He will completly fool every catholic and liberal
I'm Catholic. Are you saying he will fool me?

I don't know what winodog is trying to say .. some of that I had never heard before

However, some believe that the 3rd and final anti-christ will be a Pope in an attempt to bring down the Catholic Chruch .. my thinking on that is .. as long as there is one remaining catholic/christain that believes in God and his son Jesus Christ .. then this anti-christ/satan will never win ..

I also can't help be reminded of the The Apostles' Creed

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
Creator of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ,
His only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
and born of the Virgin Mary.
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died and was buried.
He descended into hell.
On the third day He rose again.
He ascended into heaven,
and is seated at the right hand
of God the Father Almighty.
He will come again to judge
the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Holy Catholic Church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and life everlasting.
Amen.

138 posted on 03/31/2002 11:11:46 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Proud2BAmerican
Fascinating read on St. Malachy. I linked through to the Bible Code..What do you think of all that hubbub? The site said that it had rolled back a previous estimate of 2002 to 2003 as the beginning for the End Times events.

Huh?? ... Codes .. what you be talking about .. lol

Just kidding .. Honestly what do I think of all of this .. I don't know .. I think that yes many of these prophets do predict the future but with that said I also think we won't truely know what they meant or when it will happen until it finally does happen .. but for some it may be to late. Which may be what is might by the wording of "rapture"

In the dictionary for rapture is says ...
Latin raptus
Date: 1629
1 a : a state or experience of being carried away by overwhelming emotion b : a mystical experience in which the spirit is exalted to a knowledge of divine things

I don't claim to be an expert in this area ..and it is a huge topic .. I just base my opinions on my gut and a whole lot of faith mixed in ..

Bottom line .. when this does happen .. my gut tells me we will know so make sure your bags are packed properly .. but I will also say .. the way things are going these days .. I can fully understand why many believe the end of times are near

139 posted on 03/31/2002 11:35:38 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Yall
In case anyone is interested .. a friend sent me this link and I thought it was nice snip of video

Click here: The Father's Love Letter

140 posted on 04/01/2002 12:31:11 AM PST by Mo1
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