***George W. Bush: Master Politician and Great American***

Stardate: 0203.28 | the Wizard

[The Wizard]

It was so clean it was un-noticed by his enemies, and decried by his supporters, but GWB has just demonstrated a political ability that no-one on the left, and very few on the right ever saw.....

I always refer to the old Zorro scene with Basil Rathbone as the villian slicing a candle to show Tyrone Power how deft he is with a sword, because when "Zorro" does it the candle doesn't move....(The point is then shown that Tyrone's cut was SOOOOO smooth he sliced the candle so well he cut it without moving it....a truly great scene)

The First Lady did the same thing to Algore with her "...My husband sleeps with a teacher EVERY night..." comment that was so smooth a cut most of the media hasn't picked up the wound even today....

Well good Freeper Friends, that's what Old George did to the left with Johnny McCain's unconstitutional CFR Bill....

He fooled them into passing a billl that allowed more hard money, (something they would never ever allowed because it has NEVER, EVER been raised by anyone like our Commander and Chief) allowing them to include provisions that they thought would give them the edge, while knowing that others would attack and have thrown out all the offending provisions before they ever took effect, but the severably would allow the things not challanged to stand: Outcome

hard money limits have been raised and will stay raised, and the bad parts will be strck down, and we can now see that McCain was always working with GWB and the poor dems never knew it.....

What a political play.......cut to the bone and not even seeing it til after surgery is complete......

[uncbob]

Do you think Reagan was a great president?

In most cases but he blew it on the Boland Amendment and if it wasn't for North and Poindexter the commies would have had Nicaragua and the Iran contra was used to beat Bush over the head with also and almost screwed REAGAN if he hadn't been so popular.
FAR AS I KNOW REAGAN never made a campaign promise to veto it

[rdb3]

Blowhard? Well, since you want to play that way. . .

You use language such as you did in your reply to me, and you want to call names. Yet you're talking about principles.

Wow! Now there goes a mighty fine example of principle, everyone! Three cheers for ModernDayCato!

Look up the word "principle" in Websters and you'll find a picture of ModernDayCato smiling from ear to ear!

[ModernDayCato]

You're so right. The point I keep trying to pound into their heads is if we're supposedly working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America, it seems to me that trampling liberty to do it is kind of self-defeating.

But I guess I'm not part of the annointed.

[ModernDayCato]

What? If I look up something in the dictionary I'm going to find a picture of me?

Guess you're not going to argue the obtuse part, huh?

[rbmillerjr]

Ok, I have to get some work done.

Protect my back as I strategic retreat with asbestos backside flak jacket on. I'm sure Hurrican Carter will flame my back lol, he did really say "by any means necessary"?, did he not - oi

[ModernDayCato]

Besides, I can say anything I want. It doesn't matter, as long as I win.

[rdb3]

In this case, Bush admitted that his views had not changed - yet he still signed the bill.

That's right! Now, WHY did he sign it? JohnHuang2 gave excellent examples as to why. What do you think of those?

[ModernDayCato]

Yeah, this is a total waste of time. See you all in the camps.

[uncbob]

Fairness?? Screw them! They are better off being kicked while they are down.

It is the conservatives who he is screwing

There is a plea right on this web site for $$$$$ that has to be raised to fight this thing . Where the hell is that coming from but from funds that could be used for campainging .Brilliant move

BTW How much you donating

[rdb3]

Naaa, great one. I just ignored it. As I'm now ignoring you.

Have a nice day.

[RamsNo1]

I feel sorry for you. There is a time in life when we all deserve the truth even in times of war.

[A Vast RightWing Conspirator]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Hmmm, not a single mention of campaign donations. So, where does the campaign money equals free speech argument come from?

Re-read CFR. It imposes a 60 prohibition on independent political speech in the form of TV, Radio or Newspaper advertising directed at a running candidate.

It's not so difficult to undersand, really. Even W knew that this was unconstitutional. In fact, he promised to veto the bill BECAUSE of this.

[NittanyLion]

I have an immense amount of respect for JH2. He's a thoughtful, articulate poster. That said, I believe in this case the prime motivation was political expedience.

[smith288]

I, at first was outraged by Bush's signing of the CFR bill. But i also read JohnHuang2s "2 cents" and was totally floored. He eliquently pegged each point with details behind the reasoning. Now, it could be that Bush IS indeed a total dictator RINO or the anti-Christ himself for signing this. But I think JH2 makes much more sense than the standard anti Bush:   "I will never vote for Bush again! He is a liar! I have no basis or political expertise nor will I try to dive into the thought process! Thats for the experts to determine!!!! I would rather bitch and complain like a 7 yr old than study the issue with a fine toothed comb!"

[BibChr]

John, that should have been an article in its own right. Some good stuff there.

All that having been said, I hope I can SOON see W start to use his clout more openly and score some more unambigiously conservative victories for unambiguously conservative and Constitutional issues.

Dan

[smith288]

I agree Bib....I want to see Bush openly step on Dassholes neck in public politically (and maybe even physically). This "new tone" crap is like watching a video of skateboarders rack themselves on stair bannisters. Hard to watch

[NittanyLion]

He eliquently pegged each point with details behind the reasoning. Now, it could be that Bush IS indeed a total dictator RINO or the anti-Christ himself for signing this. But I think JH2 makes much more sense than the standard anti Bush: "I will never vote for Bush again! He is a liar! I have no basis or political expertise nor will I try to dive into the thought process! Thats for the experts to determine!!!! I would rather bitch and complain like a 7 yr old than study the issue with a fine toothed comb!"

Yes, John expressed his viewpoint quite eloquently, as usual. He's a credit to FreeRepublic, and I can't remember an occassion where I've ever disagreed with him - until now.

As for the rest, I would hope that's aimed at someone else. Sounds like you simply made it up to discredit me; cheap rhetoric like that doesn't win arguments.

[cake_crumb]

"A man with character, conviction, and dare I say, PRINCIPLES, is mature enough to know when to hold them, when to fold them, when to duck, bob and weave, and when to hook and jab."

Amen to that. Politics isn't just a poker game; it's more like chess, because politics is WAR.

Anyone who has not read the bill which offends them:

Here's a link to the PDF download of the entire bill.

[smith288]

I sent this to the Columbus Dispatch opinion sections with your credit (JohnHuang2 - Freerepublic.com). I hope you dont mind... You are too bright a man to hide behind that ID...who are you?!!??!?! Fox news might want you!

[smith288]

No, that is the general rants I have seen here the past week (myself included). I fell into that category. Didnt mean to include you into the far whine group. ;)