Posted on 03/27/2002 6:12:51 AM PST by Redcloak
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The bill conflicts with several of the principles for reform that Bush set forth last year. |
THE PRESIDENT signed campaign finance reform in the Oval Office this morning, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer told reporters. On balance the president believes it improves the system but its a far from perfect bill. Opponents have promised to quickly challenge the law in federal court. CONFLICT WITH BUSH PRINCIPLES The bill conflicts with several of the principles for reform that Bush set forth last year: For example, it doesnt include a provision that would have required labor unions to obtain authorization from each member before spending dues money on political campaigns. Republicans and Democrats alike believe they can find ways to cope with the new regulations and continue to raise large sums of money for candidates. But there will be great uncertainty for months as both sides wait for the courts to uphold or strike down portions of the bill. At first blush, the bill appears to give Republicans an advantage because it doubles the hard money limits on donations to specific House and Senate candidates from $1,000 to $2,000 and the Republicans have a bigger pool of hard money donors. In the 2000 election, the GOP raised $447.4 million in hard money, 65 percent more that the Democrats raised. |
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This is a modest step, a first step, an essential step. But it doesnt even begin in some ways to address the fundamental problems that still exist.... SEN. RUSS FEINGOLD Wisconsin Democrat |
In the 60-to-40 Senate vote March 20, eleven Republican senators joined 48 Democrats and independent Jim Jeffords of Vermont in voting for the bill. Two Democrats John Breaux of Louisiana and Ben Nelson of Nebraska joined 38 Republicans in voting against the bill. Heartened by their success, supporters of the Shays-Meehan bill said it was merely a first step and that they would seek further limits on campaign spending. The bill would ban soft money contributions to national political party committees, but permit such contributions, up to $10,000 per donor per year, to go to any state, county, or local party. Soft money refers to the unlimited contributions that individuals, corporations and labor unions can make to political parties. |
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Campaign finance legislation will effectively gag political speech. LAURA MURPHY American Civil Liberties Union |
Airing in the Chicago media market, the ACLU advertisements urged Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, who represents a suburban Chicago district, to bring the Employment Non-Discrimination Act to a vote in the House. That bill would ban hiring, firing or promoting people based on their sexual preferences or behavior. Not only have we highlighted the urgency of making employment non-discrimination a top priority in Congress, but the ads also demonstrate in practice how campaign finance legislation will effectively gag political speech, said Laura Murphy, director of the ACLUs Washington office. The ACLUs ad, Murphy argued, is an example of the political speech that would be silenced by the Shays-Meehan bill. Because they are being broadcast during a 30-day window before a primary election, the radio ads would be forbidden by the Shays-Meehan bill. Ironically, our radio ads would be outlawed by the bill, Murphy said, but our virtually identical newspaper ads that are running on Monday would continue to be acceptable. |
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If you want to take the side of the founders at least be consistant with all of their views. Hint---none of them would dare call Bush a traitor.
The above statement should say:
I think that you won't be happy to see our government destroyed unless you love shedding blood.
THe law isn't effective until November 2002. The first primary is probably at least 18 months later. The best estimate is that the AD ban will meet its demise in 6 months.
They seem to forget that the House of Representatives gave something like 360 votes to this with 318 needed to pass. And the House is the institution closest to the people because they are elected every two years. People need to calm down. After the courts have gutted the bill and killed off CFR for a generation, then they should come back and try to tell us that this was the act of a traitor.
Didnt notice any one preventing you from speaking. Guess the law hasnt gone into effect yet. LOL
You bring a lot of credibility to this debate when you show up with the screen name of a Democrat.
You put the bold in the wrong spot. It should look like this...
Bush promised to veto a bill like this.
...but I suspect that trifles like promises don't mean much to you.
agree!!
He made no such promise.
Good to know who you'll be working for!
It's 29 years and counting. The ruling on this one should last at last this long. Bush has set it up to kill this crap for the equivalent of a geological era.
I'm sorry you didn't get the political equivalent of a suicidal banzai charge. That was what you were asking for.
We kill this for three decades, at the very least. That's a lot better than the three years that a Bush veto would have bought us.
I didn't say the MEDIA didn't care about CFR. Of course they do, since it benefits them the most. I said that the PUBLIC doesn't give a damn about it, and the polls back that up.
He does not do everything up front where it will be exposed to fire. This guy's smart. He learned from the mistakes of his father AND the mistakes of Gingrich. You do not telegraph your moves to the other side. That's Strategy 101.
Maceman: Keep in mind that the media cares. That will be enough to make the public care. WE may know that Tom Brokaw, Peter Jennings, and Dan Rather spout BS, but to those soccer moms, they tell the Lord's truth every friggin' evening.
I learned in the 1995 budget battle that a frontal assault does not work any more. Gingrich got cut to ribbons by a media-Democratic offensive. I do not want the same here.
I never mentioned any context for the word traitor. Look it up in the dictionary if you are confused as to it's meaning.
I also am having trouble putting my finger on the part of the constitution that mentions "traitors", I think it refers to "treason". A decidedly different thing. It is in any case irrelevant to my comments.
If you want to take the side of the founders at least be consistant with all of their views. Hint---none of them would dare call Bush a traitor.
You have no way of knowing what the founders thought on this subject since they are all dead. I never mentioned the founders in any case. You should really read more carefully.
What I'm afraid is most likely is that the court will strike down some of the most objectionable parts of it (such as the 60-day rule) while leaving others alone (probably with some more "conditions" as well. Gotta have their hands in everything, don't y'know). That's the way these sneaky statists operate: try something really outrageous, and then scurry back to a more modest usurpation, while letting us defenders of liberty feel like we've had some sort of victory.
This is a myth. The Supreme Court already ruled that spending is speech. That didn't stop them from writing and passing this unconstitutional law. They just keep bringing it back whether it's vetoed or the Court slaps it down.
However, Bush said that the president has a DUTY to veto bills he thinks are unconstitutional. When he signed this bill he shirked his duty by his own admission.
No amount of spin will change the facts. George decided to shirk his duty.
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