Posted on 03/26/2002 1:02:59 PM PST by FresnoDA
Man kills four kids and himself in Merced murder-suicide
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Oh, and another thing, a truly decent, manly man wouldn't have done this in the first place, nor would he have killed himself in a last cowardly act no matter how awful his ex-wife may have treated him. I am a stay-at-home Mom who homeschools and believes that my husband is the head of our Christian household. Your belief that wives can cause men to become evil is just another excuse--almost as bad as those awful Femi-Nazi's who mistakenly believe that men and women think and are alike. (Actual wife and husband abusers use the excuse that their spouse drove them to it all the time.) There is one thing that every human being is alike in--we are free to choose between good and evil. This ex-husband chose sin and wickedness by murdering children.
HE KILLED 4 CHILDREN, 3 OF WHICH WERE NOT EVEN HIS OWN!
That isn't enough on its own to condemn him? There is NEVER any justification for such murder of innocents.
I can offer many explanations. I can explain why Hitler invaded the Ukraine, why the terrorists destroyed the towers, why the Romans and Jewish leadership crucified Jesus.
The explanations? The same explanations for why everybody, I repeat, everybody does hurtful things, any hurful things, is fear (can cause pre-emtive strikes), and/or the belief that they have been wronged to the point that it justifies what they are doing.
Is it right? He!! no! But we are all narcisistic when we act out in these ways - and we are wrong. Some people just feel more hurt and therefore more justified to do hurtful things.
Courts and ex's don't seem to understand the pandoras box of human emotions that they are opening with unilateral no-fault divorce. And they certainly do not understand the gravity of what they are doing to the psyche of hundreds of thousands of male citizens of this country every year.
On the other hand, the family law courts do have metal detectors nowadays. I guess they are at least somewhat aware of the beast they have unleashed.
If you keep poking a docile bear in a cage, don't be surprised if it eventually tries to tear your arm off.
Humans can be quite dangerous. Don't antagonize them. They have the capacity to mentally justify almost any action when motivated - very dangerous.
These stories will continue to sprout up. I expect the frequency to increase before it gets better.
Wow, I never realized that all those Depends commercials were a sign that the Armegeddon was near!
Possibly, but I don't think that this type of massacre should be used to justify or excuse any husband or wife who have been abused to cause such pain and suffering to innocent family members.
Yes, there are a lot more women who want to wear the pants in the family today. No matter what NOW or other modern women believe, women trying to control the family can make most men insecure and confused about whether or not they are real men. It also makes some men not care anymore about being good providers, husbands and fathers because they have been brainwashed to believe that they should feel guilty for taking the reigns (male subjugators!) and not letting the women do it all!
Yes, there are some truly heinous governmental cases involving divorce and personal values that have unfairly caused havoc for some families. (I'm fighting for a San Juan Homeschool family who is being harassed by their son's former public school!)
But using these sorts of incidents as an excuse for the sort of behavior that happened in Merced is stretching it, IMHO.
Silly rabbit, sometimes good people do bad things. Trust me, I've seen it. All people have a breaking point. The only one that doesn't was hung on a cross...
That's because bears aren't as smart as humans. Humans have a far greater capacity for both good and evil than any animal.
I am not, repeat, am NOT, condoning this man's actions. But we have to understand that until we get to the root cause, and fix it, we will have more sad stories like this. It is HORRIBLE what this man did. Now let's get to the why, and prevent it in the future.
We can, many of us, stand here and say that we believe men are the heads of the household and that no "real" man would ever do such a terrible thing. We can make the assumption that he must be a brute and a control freak. We can make all kinds of claims that "our" men would never do such a thing. But we've never pushed them to that limit. We don't know, really, what they are capable of.
It is not an excuse to say that women can push men into doing terrible things. It is a fact that, when women, with the courts approval, strip men of so many rights and dignities, giving them no recourse, they may go over the edge. There are so many cases out there of where the man is desperately trying to do the right thing, but is beaten down and not allowed to. He may be choosing to do good over evil, but is prevented from it, and so chooses to us what appears to be evil, but in his desperate mind may be the only, or best, alternative. Again, it's not right. But it is becoming prevelant in this country, and women, along with the courts, have the power to stop it.
Bingo! That is exactly why so many women are attempting unilateral no fault divorces these days. Unfortunately, when there are children involved, they find out too late that they have jumped from a warm frying pan into a hot fire.
My point exactly. At no time did Pillars attempt to excuse the action. He/she was attempting to explain why one might do it. Explain and excuse are two completely different words with completely different meanings.
They are close together in a dictionary - maybe that's what confuses some people...
Divorce court's latest casualties.
Yes, yes, yes! That is because bears are too stoopid to look beyond the immediate. They are not even self aware, they simply want to stop the source as they see it. It is beyond their pea brained comprehension to damage something that you hold dear just to get back at you. They're not that smart - nor is any other animal. That's also why they don't commit suicide. Their cranial capacity is not above the minimal threshold required to even spark such a thought. How do you kill yourself intentionally when the concept of "self" is beyond your comprehension.
Unless you believe these children were causing his pain, you must admit that what this man did was every bit as evil and almost as random as any other mass murderer.
Man, your giving me a headache! Who said it wasn't evil? And it's never random when you know the people.
Evil? Yes! Random? By definition, no!
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Four Merced children are dead after what police believe was a murder suicide. Just after 7 a.m. Tuesday, a man went to the home of his ex-wife at Lecco and Piedmont Streets in Northeast Merced, where he allegedly shot his own child, three other children in the home and himself. Merced County Sheriff's Deputies say the man's ex-wife, Christine McFadden, came back from a morning walk to find her ex-husband and her five-year-old daughter lying dead on the floor. McFadden went to a neighbor's house to call police, then returned home to find her three other children dead in other bedrooms. Authorities say the dead include the five-year-old girl, a 17-year-old girl, and 14- and 15-year-old boys. Those three teenagers were not children of the man who apparently committed the murders. Police say the man had been living in Kern County. How, why and when he arrived in Merced are unanswered questions at this time.