[Texasforever]

Ping!

[Britton J Wingfield]

Shhhhh, we are busy feeling indignant over here.

[blackbart.223]

"It would be nice if Bush had the line-item veto so he could excise the bad parts but he does not and will rely on the courts to do it for him."

I hope The Supreme Court knocks CFR out of the Ballpark. It is bad law and stifles free speech.

PS I'm not placing blame on Bush for CFR.

[smileee]

Two things: First one is on the Immigration issue...Dick Armey was on FNC the other night and he explained the President's immigration bill as being designed to grant temporary amnesty to the workers who have originally come into this country Legally, but through inefficiency of the INS, have not had their papers processed after many years...this bill puts pressure on the INS to get the papers processed of these people who tried to use the system legally. This bill is not for the people who came here Illegally in the first place. I don't know about you, but that makes a huge difference to me in the way I think about this bill. Next, I have to agree with Rush when he says that he believes that the President is making some minor political decisions that may or may not adhere strictly to the party line at this time. He knows that the Supreme Court will not let this Campaign Finance bill stand, so why should he use up any political capital for our side at this time before an election that we hope to be triumphant in. After we get back in a position to push our agenda, he will. He just doesn't have the ability to overcome the Senate at this time, so why waste a lot of time making a lot of noise for nothing, save it for when it is effective. That's just good strategy and common sense.

[nopardons]

Many thanks, for posting this well thought out, factual , calm piece. I am sick and tired of those who are claiming that President Bush did so and so, isn't Conservative, is betraying us, ect., ect, ect., based solely on their own misperceptions / imaginings / their oagandas, which the president NEVER was in favor of, going off on rabbling, wild eyed rants.

The " I've been a Conservative all of my life, but Bush just lost my vote " cants, read like just so many " serial callers " and you all know what I mean; or should ! If you peopele are going to be THAT political naive, and have learned NOTHING during your stay on FR, than this site is absolutely useless and should shut down. Our glass is at least 1/2 full ; however , you guys keep seeing it as being empty.

Again, you have my thanks, Texsforever, and my gratitude, for bringing some sense to this mess.

[nopardons]

Many thanks, for posting this well thought out, factual , calm piece. I am sick and tired of those who are claiming that President Bush did so and so, isn't Conservative, is betraying us, ect., ect, ect., based solely on their own misperceptions / imaginings / their agandas, which the president NEVER was in favor of, going off on rabbling, wild eyed rants.

The " I've been a Conservative all of my life, but Bush just lost my vote " cants, read like just so many " serial callers " and you all know what I mean; or should ! If you people are going to be THAT political naive, and have learned NOTHING during your stay on FR, than this site is absolutely useless and should shut down. Our glass is at least 1/2 full ; however , you guys keep seeing it as being empty.

Again, you have my thanks, Texsforever, and my gratitude, for bringing some sense to this mess.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

You should change your screen name to VoiceOfReason...but then it wouldn't have "Texas" in it - so, nevermind. :)

[PhiKapMom]

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! What a breath of fresh air this article is!

[Buckeroo]

Your post is filled with lies and scandals! It appears you would have endorsed Clinton for his sex life in the White House. You are certainly performing the same with Bush's UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND/OR ANTI-AMERICAN considerations.

We need a president that will pledge his dedication to America, we don't need a president that dedicates a pledge to illegals and criminals of the United States.

[Fish out of Water]

I am sorry but like I told the Democrat infesting my Congressional House seat; you took an oath to uphold the Constitution and when presented with a choice between upholding the Constitution and political expediency you pretend that you are Bill Clinton and that oaths don’t apply to you. Any elected leader who violates his oath to uphold the Constitution is unfit to hold office and should be removed and forbidden to ever hold any office of honor anywhere in this Country again.

[Pokey78]

Thanks for the post!

[kayak]

Bless you! It's good to know that there is still at least one reasonable, rational FReeper left in the world.

[borntodiefree]

I don't care about campaign promises or Bush said this or that crap.

The ONLY IMPORTANT fact is that he is knowingly signing a Bill into law that is unconstitutional. He should be impeached as well as the 60 senators, and however many representatives.

The ONLY proper decision was to veto the bill on its face. If congress then passed it over his veto, then it is on them. Then and ONLY then should the SCOTUS get involved.

[Rome2000]

Thanks for the informative and logical post.

The hysterics should be saved for truly consequential things.

[raygun]

It appears that certain people around here have intentions on getting me started.

Can't a wee little itty-bitty guinea pig just go around knocking on things with his trusty little hammer, not having to worry about getting all riled up? Geez. For crying out loud. Man.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/628543/posts

[GeronL]

If the bill is unconstitutional and the President signs it, I would hope someone would introduce articles of impeachment.

Just to make a point of course.

[Tauzero]

"The noise level in the forum needs to abate so issues can be discussed on their merits and not deliberate misrepresentation of this President’s, motives, decisions and conservative credentials. "

You first.

[RickyJ]

You still support Bush?

Your kind are a dying breed.

[nunya bidness]

Good work Pop.

It looks like you found the playbook.

If I had the Tom Landry's hat I'd give it to you.

[Pistias]

A little rational discussion is certainly in order here nowadays, with the boom and all, thanks for getting the ball rolling...

decisions Bush has made on the immigration reform act and the CFR are not the same decisions I would have made but they are principled decisions not based on polls or focus groups. For those of you that hold principle as your standard I would think that would be a plus in your assessment but I guess when your ox is being gored, the presence of principle is not as important an attribute as you claim.

First, let me see if I can clear up some things I don't quite understand about your statement. Is what is important about the President's decisions the fact of being based on "principle" of whatever kind (as opposed to kowtowing to public pressure) or of being in accordance with the correct "principle?" And is "hold[ing] principle as [one's] standard" good because one holds the true principle, or some principle that one sticks to? And thus, is the issue here the conflicting interests of some members of the republic (one's ox being gored) or a conflict with justice or the common good?

has broken no oath or pledge

What about, "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of the President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the United States."