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It sure is noisy in here!
March 20, 2002 | Texasforever

Posted on 03/20/2002 7:54:47 PM PST by Texasforever

The noise level in the forum needs to abate so issues can be discussed on their merits and not deliberate misrepresentation of this President’s, motives, decisions and conservative credentials. The decisions Bush has made on the immigration reform act and the CFR are not the same decisions I would have made but they are principled decisions not based on polls or focus groups. For those of you that hold principle as your standard I would think that would be a plus in your assessment but I guess when your ox is being gored, the presence of principle is not as important an attribute as you claim.

I see the same misrepresentation of Bush’s positions on the CFR as I saw on the IRA. The charges are being thrown right and left that he “lied” to us as a candidate when he said he opposed campaign finance reform and is now doing a “read my lips” part two. When the thread that called for a “freep” of the President was posted a few days ago I said I was willing to do so because I don’t like CFR any more than the rest of you but I also asked the author of the thread if anyone had done a comparison to the bill that is now passed with Bush’s positions during the campaign. I was told that was a good idea and that such a comparison would be forthcoming. I waited until last night and nothing was done so I went looking on my own and found Bush’s plan after getting the nomination and 90% of what he wanted and advocated is in the new bill, He has not reneged on a campaign promise he let all of us know his position well in advance, I have attached that plan along with the applicable sections in the CFR that was passed today. It would be nice if Bush had the line-item veto so he could excise the bad parts but he does not and will rely on the courts to do it for him.

I have no illusions that this will sway any of the newly “disaffected” Bush supporters but to those of you that actually wish to criticize in a rational manner, I hope this helps.

Summary of Governor Bush's Campaign Finance Proposal

On February 15, 2000, Texas governor George W. Bush, the eventual winner of the Republican Party's presidential nomination, outlined a campaign finance reform proposal that he claimed would "increase citizen participation, return honor to our system, and restore confidence in our democracy." The proposal consists of a package of reforms that include a partial ban on soft money donations, an increase in individual contribution limits to candidates, restrictions on labor union political activities, a ban on the solicitation of contributions from federally registered lobbyists while Congress is in session, and disclosure of contributions on the Internet. The primary objective of these reforms is to protect the rights of individual citizens and groups to make contributions to political campaigns and otherwise express their views in the political process. The reforms also seek to preserve the integrity of the political process by placing new restrictions on contributions, and requiring full and timely disclosure of campaign contributions.

back to top Restricting Soft Money and "Paycheck Protection"

The Bush proposal calls for a partial ban on soft money contributions to political parties. It would prohibit corporate and labor union soft money donations, but would continue to allow individual soft money contributions. In recent election cycles, more than two-thirds of the soft money raised by the national party organizations came from corporate and labor union funds, so the proposed change would have a significant effect in reducing the amount of soft money raised at the national level. The Governor's plan thus calls for more stringent regulation of soft money than the proposals advanced by Republican leaders in recent congresses, but it is less comprehensive than the total ban on soft money donations included in the McCain-Feingold and Shays-Meehan bills. Covered in SEC. 101. SOFT MONEY OF POLITICAL PARTIES.

The plan also restricts the monies used by labor unions for political activities by incorporating a "paycheck protection" provision that would grant union members a right to decide whether a portion of their dues would be used for political purposes. In this way it seeks to promote the principle that all monies used in federal political campaigns should be voluntarily contributed. Bush's proposal thus reaches beyond the provisions of McCain-Feingold or other similar reform packages, which recognize the right of non-union members to consent to the use of their dues for political purposes, by extending this practice to union members as well. A "paycheck protection" provision of this kind has been advocated by Republican leaders in recent congresses, but is generally considered a "poison pill" guaranteeing the defeat of any reform plan by Democrats. Moreover, unlike the "paycheck protection" proposal drafted by Senate Republicans Jim Jeffords and Olympia Snowe in the 105th Congress, the Bush proposal includes no comparable provision offering corporate shareholders an opportunity to consent to the use of corporate treasury funds for political purposes. Covered in SEC. 203. PROHIBITION OF CORPORATE AND LABOR DISBURSEMENTS FOR ELECTIONEERING

Bush had already taken care of the paycheck protection problem his first month in office with the following Executive order

Four executive orders were issued by President Bush on February 17, 2001, which the Administration stated "are based on the principles of fair and open competition, neutrality in government contracting, effective and efficient use of tax dollars and the legal right of workers to be notified of how their dues may be used." Reacting to the reports, AFL – CIO President John Swenney issued a statement saying he was "appalled and outraged" by the decision to issue "four mean-spirited, anti-worker executive orders." One order would require government contractors to notify employees of their rights under the U.S. Supreme Court's 1988 holding in Communications Workers v. Beck, 487 U.S. 735, "affirming the right of workers to be notified and object, if they so chose, to their union dues being used for purposes other than collective bargaining." Government contractors will be required to post notices informing union–represented workers of their rights under the Beck decision. A similar Executive order was signed in 1992 by the President's father, which was rescinded in early 1993 by former President Clinton.

back to top Preserving Individual Participation

In addition to allowing individual soft money contributions, the Bush plan seeks to preserve the First Amendment rights of individuals to participate in the financing of campaigns by other means. The proposal calls for an increase in the amount an individual may contribute to a federal candidate by adjusting the current limit for inflation, which would raise the current limit of $1,000 per election to approximately $3,300 per election. Covered inSEC. 211. DEFINITION OF INDEPENDENT EXPENDITURE and SEC. 307. MODIFICATION OF CONTRIBUTION LIMITS. All individual and independent limits raised.

Furthermore, Bush would place no restrictions on issue advocacy; rather, his plan affirms the right of individuals and groups to run issue advocacy advertisements without being subject to federal regulation. Covered under SEC. 201. DISCLOSURE OF ELECTIONEERING COMMUNICATIONS. And `(B) EXCEPTIONS- The term `electioneering communication' does not include—

ii) a communication which constitutes an expenditure or an independent expenditure under this Act;

back to top Eliminating "Rollover" Transfers

Governor Bush also wants to preserve "donor choice" by eliminating the ability of federal candidates to transfer or "roll over" excess campaign funds from a prior bid for federal office to a subsequent campaign for a different federal office. Current law allows a federal candidate to transfer an unlimited amount raised for one federal campaign to another; for example, a senator running for president can transfer any amount of excess campaign money from a previous senate race to a presidential campaign fund. The Bush plan would end this practice to ensure that monies raised from donors who support a candidate for one office are not used to finance a subsequent campaign that donors may not support.

back to top Limiting the Solicitation of Contributions from Lobbyists

One reform offered by Bush that has not been included in the campaign finance legislation that has reached the floor in recent sessions of Congress is a prohibition on the solicitation of contributions during legislative sessions. Under Bush's proposal, Members of Congress would be prohibited from soliciting or accepting campaign contributions from federally registered lobbyists while Congress is in session. In other words, members will only be allowed to solicit or accept gifts from these individuals when Congress is in recess. The purpose of this provision is to safeguard the legislative process from improper conduct or actions that create an appearance of impropriety. It is modeled on similar provisions that have been adopted in some states, including Texas, which prohibits campaign contributions during the legislative session.

back to top Improving Disclosure

During the presidential prenomination period, the Bush campaign has been posting donor information on the campaign's Internet site on a weekly basis. This practice would become a requirement of federal law under the Bush proposal in an effort to make information on campaign donors available to the electorate in a more timely manner. The Governor's plan would amend current law on disclosure and electronic filing to require candidates to disclose on the Internet all campaign contributions within one week of their receipt. Under current FEC rules, candidates for the presidential nomination file quarterly reports during the off-election year and monthly reports during the election year Covered in TITLE V--ADDITIONAL DISCLOSURE PROVISIONS


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1 posted on 03/20/2002 7:54:47 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Howlin, Miss Marple, Sinkspur, dittomom, all
Ping!
2 posted on 03/20/2002 7:56:32 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Howdy bump.
3 posted on 03/20/2002 8:01:40 PM PST by lonestar
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To: *CFR list;*Silence, America!
Check the Bump List folders for articles related to and descriptions of the above topic(s) or for other topics of interest.
4 posted on 03/20/2002 8:02:09 PM PST by Free the USA
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To: Texasforever
Thank you for the informative post. It's always nice to have the facts.
5 posted on 03/20/2002 8:04:34 PM PST by baseballmom
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To: Texasforever
President Bush knows CFR is blatantly against what he pledged during his inaugural ceremony no matter what he said during the campaign or after the election. I am sick of the, "oh, it's just politics or political expediency to pick up more voters in 02 or 04". What Bush and his advisors may find sobering is the lack of a political base in 2004 for his re-election campaign. As I said before, elephants (or former ones) will never forget what he did to get there. Bush has forgotten that Conservatives are principled even if he is not.
6 posted on 03/20/2002 8:05:39 PM PST by RamsNo1
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To: Texasforever
Shhhhh, we are busy feeling indignant over here.
7 posted on 03/20/2002 8:05:52 PM PST by Britton J Wingfield
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To: Texasforever
The firebreathers have already made up their minds.

Lots of ranting and gnashing of teeth, but little else.

I wouldn't have signed this bill, but the issue is now off the table, and the SC will deal with the unconstitutional features of the bill, while the GOP rakes in the hard money.

8 posted on 03/20/2002 8:05:59 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: RamsNo1
President Bush knows CFR is blatantly against what he pledged during his inaugural ceremony

Then don't vote for the man but has broken no oath or pledge.

9 posted on 03/20/2002 8:07:56 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: sinkspur
Why are you so sure that Scalia, Thomas and Rehnquist want to fiddle with this? I wouldn't blame them if they told Bush to go to hell.
10 posted on 03/20/2002 8:08:16 PM PST by RamsNo1
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To: RamsNo1
Uh, it is their job.
11 posted on 03/20/2002 8:09:08 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Texasforever
"It would be nice if Bush had the line-item veto so he could excise the bad parts but he does not and will rely on the courts to do it for him."

I hope The Supreme Court knocks CFR out of the Ballpark. It is bad law and stifles free speech.

PS I'm not placing blame on Bush for CFR.

13 posted on 03/20/2002 8:11:37 PM PST by blackbart.223
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To: gov_bean_ counter
The SCOTUS is under no obligation to vote our way on this case. They are also under no obligation to even take this case.
14 posted on 03/20/2002 8:11:59 PM PST by RamsNo1
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To: RamsNo1
Why are you so sure that Scalia, Thomas and Rehnquist want to fiddle with this? I wouldn't blame them if they told Bush to go to hell.

We'll see. They won't be quite as crude as you are, however.

15 posted on 03/20/2002 8:11:59 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Texasforever
Two things: First one is on the Immigration issue...Dick Armey was on FNC the other night and he explained the President's immigration bill as being designed to grant temporary amnesty to the workers who have originally come into this country Legally, but through inefficiency of the INS, have not had their papers processed after many years...this bill puts pressure on the INS to get the papers processed of these people who tried to use the system legally. This bill is not for the people who came here Illegally in the first place. I don't know about you, but that makes a huge difference to me in the way I think about this bill. Next, I have to agree with Rush when he says that he believes that the President is making some minor political decisions that may or may not adhere strictly to the party line at this time. He knows that the Supreme Court will not let this Campaign Finance bill stand, so why should he use up any political capital for our side at this time before an election that we hope to be triumphant in. After we get back in a position to push our agenda, he will. He just doesn't have the ability to overcome the Senate at this time, so why waste a lot of time making a lot of noise for nothing, save it for when it is effective. That's just good strategy and common sense.
16 posted on 03/20/2002 8:12:00 PM PST by smileee
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To: Ipse Dixit
Most of the queers in this nation come from the queer state of Texas. I'll bet you're a queer too.

I recognize you. You're the next person to be banned from Free Republic.

17 posted on 03/20/2002 8:13:07 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Yeah right just like the 16th amendment, or Scott dredd, or confiscation of property without due process.

The black robe wonders are liable to find the whole law constitutional.

18 posted on 03/20/2002 8:13:48 PM PST by dts32041
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To: Ipse Dixit
Most of the queers in this nation come from the queer state of Texas. I'll bet you're a queer too.

LOL.

19 posted on 03/20/2002 8:14:12 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Many thanks, for posting this well thought out, factual , calm piece. I am sick and tired of those who are claiming that President Bush did so and so, isn't Conservative, is betraying us, ect., ect, ect., based solely on their own misperceptions / imaginings / their oagandas, which the president NEVER was in favor of, going off on rabbling, wild eyed rants.

The " I've been a Conservative all of my life, but Bush just lost my vote " cants, read like just so many " serial callers " and you all know what I mean; or should ! If you peopele are going to be THAT political naive, and have learned NOTHING during your stay on FR, than this site is absolutely useless and should shut down. Our glass is at least 1/2 full ; however , you guys keep seeing it as being empty.

Again, you have my thanks, Texsforever, and my gratitude, for bringing some sense to this mess.

20 posted on 03/20/2002 8:15:21 PM PST by nopardons
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