It sure is noisy in here!

March 20, 2002 | Texasforever

[Texasforever]

I do not think that any of those proposals, or yours, would get very far in the process though, do you?

Well in light of the fact that the Senate is populated by 100 "presidents in waiting" They may just try that sometime. LOL

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

They may just try that sometime.

Would that be the hereditary monarchy idea or the Islam as the state religion idea? ;-)

[Texasforever]

Would that be the hereditary monarchy

That one. Hell they act that way now.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

That one. Hell they act that way now.

I know what you mean, all of these dynasties, not just the Kennedy's. I used to wonder how democracies turned into hereditary monarchies, in the absense of external conquest, I guess it is a little clearer now. To be fair there have always been something of the sort, the Adams family, for example, but they did not have a fannish sort of personality cult, they were admired for their service and ideas.

[itsahoot]

I do not think that any of those proposals, or yours, would get
very far in the process though, do you?

Not with the current demographics, but the future, who knows?
I pray not.

[itsahoot]

I can think of several instances in which the Congress or the
Executive could be immune from Court review.

What do we do about secret Executive Orders? And I believe
there are many of those. In general I believe EO's as they
have been used recently to be un-constitutional. The famous
quote attributed to Paul Bagalua(sp) concerning EO's.
"Stroke of the pen, Law of the Land. Neat." really troubles
me.

Again I am certainly no law scholar and hope I didn't imply
that I was. I was quoting from a debate Bob Dornan was
was making, I think on C-Span. I have written him for Specific
refrences, if he replies, I will get them to all who have asked me
to put up or shut up. [:-)

[Virginia-American]

...the president is NOT the arbiter of what is or is not constitutional the Supreme Court is. I do NOT want a president of ANY party making those decisions. That ain't his job...

The only times Pres. Washington vetoed a bill was when he thought it was unconstitutional. There is no single arbiter: all us citizens, and all our elected hired help, have a responsiblity to see that the Gov't stays within Constitutinal bounds.

[Texasforever]

What do we do about secret Executive Orders? And I believe there are many of those

No such thing as a secret EO. They all have to be published in the Federal Registry to carry the force of law.

[itsahoot]

No such thing as a secret EO. They all have to be published in
the Federal Registry to carry the force of law.

I would hope you are right, but I would guess if they were
secret we couldn't know.