Posted on 03/20/2002 7:54:47 PM PST by Texasforever
From: The Federation for American Immigration Reform Legislative Update
Senator Byrd To Hold Up Section 245(i) In Senate
Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) said he will delay passage of border-security legislation because of the Section 245(i) amnesty provision the House attached to it last week. In December, the first time the House passed the bill, Senator Byrd put a hold on the border-security legislation because he wanted the bill to be debated and to allow senators to add amendments to the bill.
The House last week approved the legislation by 275-137 - a single vote more than the two-thirds required by the procedural rules under which the bill was considered. Section 245(i) would restore a provision allowing illegal aliens to pay the INS $1000 and remain in the country, subject to only a cursory U.S. police record check, before receiving green cards.
Senator Byrd said of the Section 245(i) provision,"It is lunacy - sheer lunacy - that the president would request, and the House would pass, such an amnesty at this time. That point seems obvious to the American people, if not to the administration." Byrd continued, "Supporters of the House-passed extension of the so-called Section 245(i) provision were quick to claim that it is not an amnesty. The issue, they argue, is where you fill out your paper work--here or abroad. That is nonsense--N-O-N-S-E-N-S-E, nonsense. Section 245(i)--amnesty is amnesty--pure and simple."
The section 245(i) provision, which expired last April, allows undocumented immigrants to seek permanent residency without leaving the United States, if they pay a $1,000 fee and have a close relative or employer sponsor them. Without the provision, these immigrants would be forced to leave the country, and under tougher illegal immigration reforms passed in 1996, be barred from reentering for up to 10 years. If waiving tougher penalties for illegal aliens is not a form of amnesty, then I don't know what is.
Nonetheless, President Bush is insisting on passage into law of the amnesty provision before his meeting this week with Mexican President Vicente Fox. We will keep you updated on further developments.
Sensenbrenner Not Waiting For Administration On INS Reform
After the INS notified a Florida flight school that the two men who had piloted hijacked jetliners into the World Trade Center had been granted legal status to study in the United States, House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) said he is through waiting for the Bush Administration to act and will move through his committee legislation that would split the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) into two separate agencies. Sensenbrenner said, "We have all been dumfounded. This fiasco is indicative of the enormous mismanagement at the INS."
Sensenbrenner is now encountering strong resistance from the Bush administration on how to reform the agency because President Bush opposes Sensenbrenner's legislative remedy. Bush said on March 13 that his INS Commissioner, James Ziglar, should be given time to fix the agency's problems. "His responsibility is to reform the INS. Let's give him time to do so," Bush said. So far, the only thing INS Chief James Ziglar has done is to announce that four high-level INS managers were shuffled into new positions Friday in the wake of the embarrassment.
In addition, one of the managers, Michael Cronin, who was acting executive associate commissioner and has been named the assistant commissioner for inspections, is still the Chairman of the Data Management Improvement Act of 2000 Taskforce which was created by Congress to implement the creation of an Entry-Exit border system to track visa overstayers. Even worse, moving Mr. Cronin to oversee inspections will allow Stuart Anderson, the agency's top official for planning and policy, to assert more influence over immigration programs. Ziglar appointed Anderson as one of a few political appointees, but Anderson is a libertarian crusader for higher immigration and weaker law enforcement.
Anderson, formerly of the Cato Institute and later Senator Spencer Abraham's immigration staffer, has described the very limited immigration law-enforcement response to Sept. 11 as "Gestapo tactics."
Sensenbrenner will mark up the bill (H.R. 3231) on April 10, after holding a hearing on the measure April 9. The legislation, which he introduced in November with Immigration and Claims Subcommittee Chairman George Gekas (R-PA) would create two agencies: one to handle immigration services, one to handle border enforcement. Sensenbrenner said he knows Ziglar "believes the reform can be handled administratively, but I know of no one in Congress that agrees with him."
Excuse me, but wasn't that the president chuming it up with
Kennedy the other day? Did Orin Hatch not say that Ted Kennedy
was his beast friend? Was Jim Jeffords not a registered
Republican?
You can call a cat a dog if you want to, but I doubt it will bark.
Far TOO many FREEPERS don't belong here.
And they are?
TheyYou have absolutely NO idea what politics and governance Character entails.
How about some examples please.
No, but it is enforcable law until ruled otherwise or repealed.
Only recent precedent is sacred Tex.
Semantics. How about some examples of legislation off limits to judicial review. I am really curious about that one.
You're absolutely right. I've tried to tell several libertarians the same thing on these boards. "Fringers," as you call them, are more often than not poor, awful ambassadors for their beliefs and particular parties. You'd think that since they know that they don't have the numbers they'd change how they come across to attract more people, right?
Not so. I guess they just like throwing rocks from the penalty box.
Therefore, while they may be noisy, they're harmless. Unless, of course, you take away the example of the far Left. The far Left "fringers" totally hijacked the RAT party in '72. And look at the havoc they've created.
Silly me I must have miss read that part about it not being his
job to interpret law, just sign them.
70,000 votes, give or take a few??
And he has an 80% approval rating among REGISTERED VOTERS??
There might be medication that can help you with your delusions. Maybe.
Furthermore, before you start speaking for the whole "Unnamed Silent Majority," you might ought to take a good long look at these Bush Bashing threads. You and 50 or so other disrupting Single Wedge Issue 'voters' do not constitute 'all of us on FR.'
Do you or do you not have any examples of legislation that is immune to judicial review. Just one example will do. Thanks
No, you're calling black white and white black. Yet you don't perceive that you are.
Ask yourself this most important question: Why is Sen. Klux Byrd holding up 245(i)?
Think hard about it, then get back to me.
Thanks but the noise level is still as high as ever. LOL
Now you, my friend, are one of the few who understand the nature of the political game. The Major League rulebook does not apply to the NFL.
One more thing, that "more conservative than thou" attitude that you talk about is the exact same thing I deal with on a daily basis. But it's not the "more conservative than thou" line. It's the "blacker than thou" line.
And they are totally identical in nature.
I, too, totally deplore the Balkanization and self-fracturing that we on the Right are so good at doing. As a conservative, my #1 goal is to defeat the Left by any means necessary. To me, all else is moot. If we on the Right concentrated more on how to beat the Left, this country would be far different than it is now. The Left's #1 aim is to destroy us, right? Then how come we don't have common sense enough to realize it and act accordingly?
I wish I could answer my own question, but I can't.
If the purpose of this thread was to calm things down, I don't think it worked! Maybe some doses of Valium all around would help!!
LOL!
A feeding frenzy is impossible to stop until the meal is devoured I guess.
You can read it 8 more times and you still won't get it. Don't worry about that. Just think of the motives of those who so vociferously claim that 245(i) does grant blanket amnesty to all. Then you'll find your vision concerning this to become much more clear.
You've read it for yourself, and you see that it doesn't give what isn't requested. And once requested, there are several qualifiers before the amnesty is given. If the qualifiers aren't met, no amnesty is given.
It doesn't get any clearer than that, does it?
I am quoting Bob Dornan on that one, but I will try and remember
the exact section of the constitution that gives them that power,
but not this early in the morning. I did check at the time and it is
there. And Sadly I don't remember if he mentioned any specific
examples, he may have I just don't recall.(gads that sounds Clintonian)
I am trying to be jovial here not personal, if it sounds that way
I am sorry, but I am and old fart that has seen more campaign
promises broken than engagements at a lonely hearts club,
so I am a little more weary than most. I voted for GW and my
reservations about him were accurate and I am not terribly
dissappointed, but I had hoped for better, and still do. But
like many on this board my patience wears a little thin. We shall see.
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