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To: nopardons
Out in the real world, they are NOT as numerous. Their behavior, here, does NOT win friends and influence people. Quite the contrary ; they make enemies !

You're absolutely right. I've tried to tell several libertarians the same thing on these boards. "Fringers," as you call them, are more often than not poor, awful ambassadors for their beliefs and particular parties. You'd think that since they know that they don't have the numbers they'd change how they come across to attract more people, right?

Not so. I guess they just like throwing rocks from the penalty box.

Therefore, while they may be noisy, they're harmless. Unless, of course, you take away the example of the far Left. The far Left "fringers" totally hijacked the RAT party in '72. And look at the havoc they've created.

210 posted on 03/20/2002 11:38:05 PM PST by rdb3
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To: rdb3
We are on exactly the same page, and it is do nice to see another person who really does understand politics ! : - )

I do know and understand the " you aren't black enough " thing, though I am not a black person. You are correct about it being thesame ruse, though. What it boils down to , is you aren't " legitimate ", unless you agree with me / the straight party line. It is used as a bludgeon.

Libertarians, in case you haven't yet noticed, use code words, and phrases ( the vast majority here do ) , just as the Dems do. They stick together, browbeat, and yes, even share quite a number of the same positions with their Liberal counterparts.

Dems, no matter what, stick together . Conservatives tend not to, and that IS our downfall. Dems and Comes have always understood about incrimentalization. It's worked beautifully for them. The political naifs, here, don't get it . They want instant gratification or NOTHING , which means that they wind up with nothing. They ridicule the Dems for sticking together, no matter what, and then wonder WHY Conservative positions get left in the dust or have to be fought an uphill battle for.

This forum was , I think, supposed to give us power and leverage, by working together. It's managed to make bitter enemies , within the Conservative movement. Until those who do NOT and shall NOT have the numbers to overthrow the GOP wake up to that, and start to see that a one topic or a really fringe position on something will NOT gain support, we are destined to be fracationated and Balkanized , at best.

George Bush is our president . He has the slimmest majority in the House and a minority in the the Senate. With such figures, getting anything passed, including Consesrvative Supreme Court nominees , is going to be very difficult. To be pleased, about " knocking off a RINO " , is delusional, in this climate. It is a death wish, which no amount of standing on one's supposed principles is going to help matters.

I don't know why some would rather have an empty glass, than one that is 1/4 or 1/2 or even 3/4 full.

229 posted on 03/21/2002 12:30:14 AM PST by nopardons
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