Posted on 03/15/2002 1:12:33 AM PST by JohnHuang2
I can't even imagine who would have standing to bring such a suit. Larry Klayman: Venue America.
How is he liberal? He is promilitary, pro-drugwar, pro-death penalty.. That's a fail on three litmus tests for liberalism. I do not like Schumer. He is a big government statist and a member of the Democrat Party.
In post 56 you claim Schumer is "Not (liberal) on the gun issue." FACT:He CO-AUTHORED the Assault Weapons ban! He has a LONG history of maintaining liberal positions on the Second Amendment. Everyone in RKBA movement knows this. And don't play childish word games. We are talking politics here.
In all posts you claim generally that Schumer is not a liberal nor liberal. FACT:Schumer was endorsed by the LIBERAL PARTY of NY in 1998 for the US Senate!
FACT:Approx. 55 Congressional Democrats are members of the Socialist Party, via Democratic Socialists of America. Such membership has been documented here on FR MANY times. See dsausa.org The Democrat Party has been taken over by Communists, Socialists, leftys, liberals, queers and tin-cup-rattlers long ago! Many Democrats openly brag of being liberal. Wellstone of MN for one.
You need to accept facts and move on. Stop wasting space here on FR with your much disproved arguements.
... free from bigotry. ...Not defintions, those, but spin. Conservatives are open to new ideas for progress -- conserving good old ideas does not preclude new ones. Conservatives are not intolerant of ideas, nor any more so of behaviours than liberals, although the set of tolerated behaviours vary. For example, in the same context of that very (but wrong) definition, "liberals" in universities are intolerant of other ideas.
Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others;
I have yet to see where Clinton said that the NRA was responsible.. he blamed Timothy McVeigh.
In post 56 you claim Schumer is "Not (liberal) on the gun issue." FACT:He CO-AUTHORED the Assault Weapons ban! He has a LONG history of maintaining liberal positions on the Second Amendment.
Which is it, he is liberal on the gun issue or he wants more restrictive gun legislation?
In all posts you claim generally that Schumer is not a liberal nor liberal. FACT:Schumer was endorsed by the LIBERAL PARTY of NY in 1998 for the US Senate!
So.. how is he liberal? Calling him a liberal doesn't make him a liberal, any more than Russian Vladimar Zhirinovsky or Austria's Haider calling themselves 'liberal democrats' makes them liberal democrats. I've heard people call President Bush a commie lib.. doesn't make him so. Liberal is as liberal does. I judge a person on their words, beliefs and actions, not by any labels attached to them.
FACT:Approx. 55 Congressional Democrats are members of the Socialist Party, via Democratic Socialists of America. Such membership has been documented here on FR MANY times.
umm.. what is your point?
See dsausa.org The Democrat Party has been taken over by Communists, Socialists, leftys, liberals, queers and tin-cup-rattlers long ago!
you should learn how to spell 'lefties' before you go off on a rant about them..
Many Democrats openly brag of being liberal. Wellstone of MN for one.
Wellstone is a moderate, based on his words, beliefs and actions.
You need to accept facts and move on. Stop wasting space here on FR with your much disproved arguements.
Feel free to refute any of my 'arguements' (rolling eyes) with the facts..
... free from bigotry. ... Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; Not defintions, those, but spin.
I got it from a dictionary (shrug).
Conservatives are open to new ideas for progress -- conserving good old ideas does not preclude new ones.
Conservatives are hardly progressive.. what great progressive ideas has the conservative movement come up with in the last 12 or so years? Conservatism is regressive.
Conservatives are not intolerant of ideas, nor any more so of behaviours than liberals, although the set of tolerated behaviours vary. For example, in the same context of that very (but wrong) definition, "liberals" in universities are intolerant of other ideas.
For example? Liberal is as liberal does.. if being liberal in one's attitudes means to be tolerant of other ideas than a liberal is someone who is tolerant of other ideas.
I am speaking of liberalism.. radical individualism. As espoused by great men such as Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, Martin Luther King jr., Ralph Nader et al. Modern liberalism is the application of classical liberal principles to modern issues.
In the definition of the times, Schumer is a liberal.
No, he is a big government statist.
In the classical sense, as you point out, he is not -- he is a modern "Royalist" -- he supports the state, at the expense of individual liberties.
Yup.
He said 'voices of hate' on the radio encouraged such an act. That was a reference to hate radio, not all talk radio. The kind of stuff Tim McVeigh listened to. For example, Sheriff Mack. McVeigh was an avid listener of hate radio shows.
I prefer to call them socialists and I fully agree with the flyer that depicted them as nazis. Nazis are not right wing, they are left wing but that was already discussed on another thread.
It seemed obvious that the type of bomb was ideally suited to take advantage of a design weakness in this particular building -- namely that the floors were connected to the supporting pillars mainly by gravity.
I wondered how a couple of yokels could put this bomb/building matchup together. I believe they had technical help.
As far as I know the only self-professed socialist in DC is Bernie Sanders (I). All others call themselves Democrats or Republicans. As i said, anyone can call themselves a liberal. Jesse Helms or Dianne Feinswinne could call themselves liberals.. doesn't make it so!
I prefer to call them socialists and I fully agree with the flyer that depicted them as nazis.
I prefer to call socialists socialists and neo-nazis neo-nazis.
Nazis are not right wing, they are left wing but that was already discussed on another thread.
Nazis are right-wing. Fascist. As opposed to the Left. Two major threats to the Nazi regime were the liberal Jews and Socialists. This is why they were targetted for extermination.
No, the Nazis were moderates. Really! Fascism was sold at the time as the "third way," BETWEEN capitalism and communism/socialism.
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