[Ubonic]

Foolishness. You are merely talking to hear yourself talk. Everyone knows he is a liberal. He receives endorsements from all the liberal groups. You are simply applying a strict definition to try to justify your misguided view of the man.

How is he liberal? He is promilitary, pro-drugwar, pro-death penalty.. That's a fail on three litmus tests for liberalism. I do not like Schumer. He is a big government statist and a member of the Democrat Party.

[donozark]

In post 16 you stated "....Clinton did not blame the NRA for OKC bombing." FACT: You were proved incorrect by myself and others.

In post 56 you claim Schumer is "Not (liberal) on the gun issue." FACT:He CO-AUTHORED the Assault Weapons ban! He has a LONG history of maintaining liberal positions on the Second Amendment. Everyone in RKBA movement knows this. And don't play childish word games. We are talking politics here.

In all posts you claim generally that Schumer is not a liberal nor liberal. FACT:Schumer was endorsed by the LIBERAL PARTY of NY in 1998 for the US Senate!

FACT:Approx. 55 Congressional Democrats are members of the Socialist Party, via Democratic Socialists of America. Such membership has been documented here on FR MANY times. See dsausa.org The Democrat Party has been taken over by Communists, Socialists, leftys, liberals, queers and tin-cup-rattlers long ago! Many Democrats openly brag of being liberal. Wellstone of MN for one.

You need to accept facts and move on. Stop wasting space here on FR with your much disproved arguements.

[bvw]

You are mixing definitions: classical liberalism (such as held by the Whig Party in England and the colonies at the times up through the Amercian Revolution), and modern PC liberalism. In the definition of the times, Schumer is a liberal. In the classical sense, as you point out, he is not -- he is a modern "Royalist" -- he supports the state, at the expense of individual liberties.