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To: Ubonic
You are mixing definitions: classical liberalism (such as held by the Whig Party in England and the colonies at the times up through the Amercian Revolution), and modern PC liberalism. In the definition of the times, Schumer is a liberal. In the classical sense, as you point out, he is not -- he is a modern "Royalist" -- he supports the state, at the expense of individual liberties.
87 posted on 03/18/2002 5:54:50 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
You are mixing definitions: classical liberalism (such as held by the Whig Party in England and the colonies at the times up through the Amercian Revolution), and modern PC liberalism.

I am speaking of liberalism.. radical individualism. As espoused by great men such as Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, Martin Luther King jr., Ralph Nader et al. Modern liberalism is the application of classical liberal principles to modern issues.

In the definition of the times, Schumer is a liberal.

No, he is a big government statist.

In the classical sense, as you point out, he is not -- he is a modern "Royalist" -- he supports the state, at the expense of individual liberties.

Yup.

90 posted on 03/18/2002 11:31:18 AM PST by Ubonic
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