George W. Bush: No Amnesty for Immigrants - "There's going to be no amnesty"

Associated Press ^ | August 23, 2001 | By SANDRA SOBIERAJ

[Uncle Bill]

Bush: No Amnesty for Immigrants

Associated Press
By SANDRA SOBIERAJ
August 23, 2001

CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) - President Bush on Thursday promised illegal immigrants a worker program of some type to legalize their labor here, but he ruled out any blanket amnesty.

"There's going to be no amnesty," the president said as he took time from his vacation to visit an elementary school near his ranch.

Bush is due to announce proposed immigration changes, which Mexico wants, when Mexican President Vicente Fox makes a state visit to the White House on Sept. 5.

Secretary of State Colin Powell and Attorney General John Ashcroft have recommended to Bush that he grant guest-worker status and - eventually - legal residency to some of the 3 million Mexicans who are in this country illegally.

Asked about his pending decision, Bush told reporters he was consulting with Mexican officials on a worker program ``that will legalize the hard work that's taking place now in America.''

"So long as there's somebody who wants to hire somebody and somebody willing to work, it seems like to me it's in our nation's interests to make sure the two go together," he said, adding that he also wants to talk with Mexico about doing a better a job of enforcing its border.

As for amnesty, Bush was unequivocal:

"There will be no blanket amnesty for illegals. I've said that point blank. I will say it as many times as I need to say it."

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Amnesties Are A Green Light For Illegal Immigration

Townhall.com
Don Feder
February 15, 2001

Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., thinks illegal immigration is great for America. Philanthropist that he is, the congressman wants to give us more of a good thing. Gutierrez has filed legislation to allow virtually every illegal alien in the country (an estimated 5 million) to stay.

Those who arrived before Feb. 6, 1996, would immediately qualify for a green card. Those who came between that date and Feb. 6, 2001, could apply for legal residency after five years.

"People in this country know they are benefiting from the work of undocumented workers," Gutierrez argues. "Why not grant them the dignity and justice that comes with permanent legal residency?" Dignity and justice are euphemisms for government benefits and the ability to bring in their relatives.

A Gutierrez aide says illegals are doing "essential jobs" and God help the economy if -- spurred by our ingratitude -- they go home. And what do we do with these largely uneducated, untrained workers if the economy heads south, as indicators suggest it might?

Instead of benefits, Americans are more apt to associate illegal immigration with words like crime, disease and loss of national identity.

Contagious diseases like tuberculosis and leprosy are reappearing in this country, thanks to illegal immigration. Peter Brimlow, author of "Alien Nation," reports that several years ago, senior probation officers in Orange County, Calif., estimated that up to 80 percent of their cases involved illegals.

Amnesties tell inhabitants of the impoverished Third World that if they can sneak past the Border Patrol, Uncle Softie will eventually welcome them with open arms.

They also say to the foreigners who are patiently waiting for permission to immigrate (sometimes up to 18 years): "Suckers!"

The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 amnestied 2.8 million. According to the Immigration and Naturalization Service, there are more illegals in the country now.

Amnestied aliens can immediately sponsor their spouses and dependent children for residence. If they become citizens, they can sponsor parents and siblings.

It's difficult to get demographics on "undocumented workers." (If someone breaks into your house, is he an "uninvited guest"?) However, in 1992 the INS surveyed those amnestied in 1986. Only 15 percent spoke English, though all had been here for at least a decade; 80 percent used public health services. On average, they had a seventh-grade education.

Democrats support this dubious contribution to the general welfare, with a wink and a nod, because they directly benefit from the support of ethnic lobbies eager to increase their numbers.

Republicans lack the courage to do anything positive about the problem, though most in Congress oppose mass amnesties. They are convinced that by keeping a low profile they can do better with the Hispanic vote.

In the past campaign, President Bush refused to support initiatives to end bilingual education or recognize English as our official language. He ended up with about 35 percent of the Latino vote and congratulated himself for improving the Republican position.

However, as the National Review's John O'Sullivan notes, this still means that for every 100 illegal immigrants who come here (most from South of the border) and become citizens, the GOP will have a net loss of 30 votes.

By not defending our sovereignty, Republicans miss an opportunity to appeal to the majority of Americans who understand that illegal immigration undermines national identity. (Bush took only 54 percent of the white vote in 2000.) It's also a way to court lower-income blacks, the chief victims of cheap illegal-immigrant labor.

On Feb. 16, Bush is scheduled to meet with Mexican President Vicente Fox, who will press him to be lenient with Mexicans who've infiltrated the United States. During the election, Dubya said, "I'm not prepared to embrace amnesty because I don't think the commitment's there yet to do anything on the border." This is Bush-speak for: We have to plug our porous border before we can consider compassion for lawbreakers.

Illegal immigration benefits Americans the way treason enhances national security.

©2001 Creators Syndicate, Inc

[scholar]

Mexico is a friend of America.

Yeah right, they send us their poor to suck up our healthcare dollars. But when it came to raising the price of oil, they were happy to stick it to us.

With friends like this, who needs enemies?

[Osage Orange]

Six Potential Citizens............OR

Six Men Face Charges in Drug-Trafficking..

The Daily Oklahoman

| 3-13-02 |

The Daily Oklahoman

Bartlesville,OK:

Bonds were set for six men who were arrested on drug-trafficking complaints.

Bartlesville police confiscated marijuana, methamphetamine, guns and more than $43,000 in cash during three separate raids last week. Officials believe all six men are part of the same narcotics ring.

Librado Gonzalez, 41; Alejandro Perez Matayo Martinez, 32; Salvador Alcazar Martinez, 33; Efrain Alejandro Rios-Ramirez, 21; Angel Gonzales Perez, 20; and Tomas Mendoza Vasquez, 29; were taken into custody.

[MissAmericanPie]

Yes, semantics is a beautiful thing isn't it? But let's cut to the bottom line, if this bit of trash, this poison pill, had not been attached to the Visa Violation Legislation, sleeper terrorist cells in this country would have been exposed to the dangers posed by this legislation. Now all they have to do is slap a thousand dollars down, get a sponser, receive a green card, and they are home free, now isn't that right?

So instead of having to fear the hammer that the Visa Violation Legislation had over their heads, they can continue to walk among us free as a bird. That is the unforgivable bottom line as well as rewarding those that have flaunted our laws and overstayed their visa's and it does not mean just those violators that have married U.S. citizens.

[Dane]

It won't matter to those who want to have an orgasmic flagellating orgy declaring their "betrayal".

But thank you for post.

[Sabertooth]

Rush said earler that the bill passed yesterday wasn't amnesty and it was a visa extension because the INS is too inept to process the paperwork on time?

Good to know that Rush has thrown in with the GOP Clinton-speakers.

They're falling fast over this. What an awesome litmus test.

[The Old Hoosier]

245i is NOT an amnesty.

[Clemenza]

Oh, the "hard" work. Goodbye middle class construction workers, truckers, etc. You were just another blip in history.

I haven't seen a white guy doing yard work (in other than a supervisory role) since...?

I have noticed that many of the Central Americans in New York and Florida took many of the jobs (domestics, kitchen help, busboys) typically reserved for family members or blacks. As family members have gotten smaller and blacks have stopped working such positions, the Central Americans have taken their place, at least in the areas that I have lived.

[MissAmericanPie]

I would like to know if anyone is home there between your ears. Tell me what good the Visa Violators Legislation, when the attached 245i pulls it's teeth and makes it void and USELESS??? Tell me, I'm waiting.

[Clemenza]

Yeah right, they send us their poor to suck up our healthcare dollars. But when it came to raising the price of oil, they were happy to stick it to us.

Uh, for the past few years Mexico (along with Norway and renegade OPEC member Venezuela) have kept us flush with cheap oil.

I have traveled widely throughout Mexico and have been treated wonderfully by 99% of the people I met. Of course, many on this thread would simply say "get away from my daughter and my trailer you w-tb-ck!"

Nevertheless, I share your opposition to this measure. Lawbreakers should not be awarded. We should instead 1. clean out INS 2. enfore the laws already on the books and 3. end family reunification.

[January24th]

Even though I had resident-alien status in Mexico, it still didn't mean I could work there.
I think we've been more than generous to the Mexican people in our policies and amnesty just sends the message
that we haven't the will to protect our borders...or our sovereignty.

[MissAmericanPie]

si

[Woodman]

34 posts before someone actually looked at the bill without slamming GWB. Thank you Armando. The Bill does not do any favors for people here illegally in the first place, or for those who have been deemed deportable in the first place. It most definitely doesn't help wetbacks, or anyone in the country illegally since August 15, 2001. Funny how everyone is in such an uproar over the "traitor" GWB and Pubbies.

I think the Buchananites are rearing their ugly heads again.

[BOBTHENAILER]

Good post, but facts won't stick to this knee-jerk issue. Bad timing, no explanation (except for yours), 911, to mention just a few points why this won't fly in this forum. Rove and company did a bad job here.

[d14truth]

"I haven't seen a white guy doing yard work (in other than a supervisory role) since...?"

Every other weekend at my place in So. California. Of, course the missus and I have to do it, the kids wouldn't think of it except for the money, and if we went that route, the immigrants would be cheaper. {;~)

[Willie Green]

Bush: No Amnesty for Immigrants

Sounds like Dubya is learning to smoke without inhaling.

[KirkandBurke]

That from that notorious tinfoil hat wearing, radical wing-nut, George Washington.

I remember him. He was one of the Founding Terrorists. An evil, gun-loving, isolatonist, anti-government rebel.

[TexKat]

I was in the checkout line in the grocery store a few weeks ago behind a young Hispanic lady with her little boy. She paid for her milk, cereal, juice, and peanut butter with wicke(I believe that is how it is spelled)government vouchers, she paid for the rest of her groceries with government food stamps. In her grocery basket was also bath soap, paper towels, toilet tissue, that our government does not subsidize. But the next thing that happened caught my eye, was after the cashier rang up these remaining items, which came to (if I can remember correctly) $7.42, the Hispanic lady pulled out a checkbook. She did not understand the cashier, so she handed the checkbook to the cashier, so the cashier could make out the check, which the cashier did. Then the cashier ran the check once unsuccessfully, and then a second time unsuccessfully.

Eventually, the cashier had to go back and deduct these items because the customer did not have the cash to pay for them.

1)Wicke Vouchers

2)Food Stamps

3)Checkbook

4)Can't speak English

5)Can't understand English.

I wonder who wrote the previous checks for her, how much and to whom.

[Sabertooth]

The Bill does not do any favors for people here illegally in the first place, or for those who have been deemed deportable in the first place.

The fact that they haven't been "deemed deportable" isn't the excuse, it's the problem.