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Report: Military Plans Nuke Hits on 7 Countries
New York Daily News ^ | 3/09/02 | LEO STANDORA

Posted on 03/09/2002 1:07:48 AM PST by kattracks

The White House has ordered the Pentagon to prepare plans for using nuclear weapons against at least seven countries and to build smaller nuclear bombs for certain battlefield situations, according to a published report today.

Tops on the nuclear hit list are China, Russia, Iraq, North Korea, Iran, Libya and Syria, according to a classified Pentagon report obtained by the Los Angeles Times.

"This is dynamite," Joseph Cirincione, a nuclear arms expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington, told the newspaper. "I can imagine what these countries are going to be saying at the UN."

The Times said the secret report, given to Congress on Jan. 8, says the nuclear weapons could be used against targets able to withstand nuclear attack; in retaliation for attack with nuclear, biological or chemical weapons, or "in the event of surprising military developments."

The report says the Pentagon should be prepared to use nuclear weapons in an Arab-Israeli conflict, in a war between China and Taiwan or in an attack by North Korea on the south, and possibly in an attack by Iraq on Israel or another neighbor.

The call for a limited-range arsenal was seen as an important deterrent against enemies who doubt the U.S. would use larger weapons in certain situations because of the widespread death and destruction they would cause.

The U.S. has long had a detailed plan for nuclear attack on Russia, but the new Nuclear Posture Review apparently marks the first time an official list of potential targets has been compiled.

The report acknowledges Russia is no longer officially an "enemy," but cites concern about the huge Russian arsenal of about 6,000 deployed warheads and some 10,000 smaller "theater" weapons, The Times said.

Pentagon spokesman Richard McGraw declined comment because, he said, the report is classified.

Nuclear analysts predicted to the newspaper that the report would draw strong reaction, but some insisted the Pentagon must be ready — especially after Sept. 11 — for all contingencies.

One nuclear expert, John Isaacs, president of the Council for a Livable World, said, "This is very, very dangerous talk.... Dr. Strangelove is clearly still alive in the Pentagon."

U.S. policy generally has been to consider the use of nuclear weapons against nonnuclear states only if they are allied with nuclear powers.




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To: Grampa Dave
Man, that is one cool cartoon! I hadn't noticed the "terrorist outfitters" peeping through the window -- and looking worried -- until you mentioned it (it was off the edge of my monitor). In what publication did this gem originally appear?
141 posted on 03/09/2002 7:36:55 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Imal
Why does it even suprise anyone that the military would plan contingencies for any possible action. I for one believe a thought out plan to do anything is better than going off half cocked. Secondly, where does this story come from?. The anti-nuclear crowd? Gee I'm sure they are always telling use the truth...not. What a bunch of balony!
142 posted on 03/09/2002 7:37:22 AM PST by Rockiesrider
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To: kattracks
The Times said the secret report, given to Congress on Jan. 8, says the nuclear weapons could be used against targets able to withstand nuclear attack; in retaliation for attack with nuclear, biological or chemical weapons, or "in the event of surprising military developments."

I could have a "field day" with that last phrase. I sure would like to see how the military defines "surprising military developments".

143 posted on 03/09/2002 7:37:36 AM PST by realpatriot71
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To: kattracks
Yes we must not be prepaired to fight. We must only talk about being prepaired and not actually be prepaired. Yea thats it we'll bluff our way through.
144 posted on 03/09/2002 7:40:37 AM PST by Khepera
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To: kattracks
Gosh. This is so moral. And so militarily brilliant. Yes let's use mini nukes on the battlefield. Sounds like Bush is planning on WWIII and many are in love with the idea.
145 posted on 03/09/2002 7:47:02 AM PST by Demidog
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To: COL. FLAGG
You're exactly right and I believe that even sans nukes, the converstaions run just like that.

The problem is nobody ever says "you're talking about mass murder!"

That sentence is always left out. "Sure we might get our hair mussed..."

147 posted on 03/09/2002 7:50:16 AM PST by Demidog
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To: Mia T
"It would appear that Congress was told specifically because it would leak. The plan is useless if the bad guys don't know about it."

Exactamoondo.

If anyone thinks this was an LA Times scoop...they need to "wake up and smell the maple f***in' nut crunch"...

This was a heads up for the enemy...though I would have included Saudi and Pakistan....but I'm a tad, well more like the way Patton thought?
148 posted on 03/09/2002 7:51:49 AM PST by CaptSkip
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To: Jimer
This story is just one of the potential catalysts designed and orchestrated to revive/renew the sixties-style activism on our campuses nation wide.

That's exactly what I was thinking. I wonder if they are calling out the troops (at campuses) to battle AVOT.

On Tuesday, March 12th, former U.S. Secretary of Education William Bennett will hold a press conference to introduce a new project: Americans for Victory Over Terrorism (AVOT).*

AVOT will launch a campaign to defend America's war on terrorism against those who would weaken the nation's resolve and erode our commitment to end the international menace of terrorism. AVOT will take its campaign to where it is needed most-college campuses, seminar rooms, editorial pages, and other media outlets.

Chaired by William Bennett, AVOT brings together a strong intellectual fighting force of senior advisors well versed in the various aspects of the war on terrorism. These advisors include:

James Woolsey, former Director of Central Intelligence
William Barr, former U.S. Attorney General
Frank Gaffney, former Assistant Secretary of Defense
Walid Phares, Middle East scholar, author, and professor at Florida Atlantic University
Ruth Wisse, author, scholar, and professor at Harvard University

At Tuesday's press conference, William Bennett and senior advisors will discuss AVOT's principles, mission, and plan of action and will take questions from the press.

DATE: Tuesday, March 12, 2002
TIME: 10:00 a.m.
LOCATION: National Press Club
(Zenger Room)
529 14th Street, NW
Washington, DC 20045

*Americans for Victory Over Terrorism is a project of EMPOWER.org.


149 posted on 03/09/2002 7:51:58 AM PST by ladylurker
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To: kattracks
PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH

We must never again be unprepared.

150 posted on 03/09/2002 7:52:29 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: Ditto
There is no such thing as a secret report given to Congress, at least not for long.

And Dashole is complaining that Bush doesn't inform him of our shadow government. Firstly, I think Bush did inform him but that is kept secret,everything else isn't.

151 posted on 03/09/2002 7:56:24 AM PST by chainsaw
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To: Aeronaut
...classified Pentagon report obtained by the Los Angeles Times....Alright, who's going to jail for releasing classified info?

Exactly. The Los Angeles Times should have its assets frozen for printing classified documents. It gives aid and comfort to our enemies to know they have people on this inside.

152 posted on 03/09/2002 7:57:58 AM PST by Naspino
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To: Yardstick
I don't know where this great cartoon came from. It was posted last night during the freepathon and a Freeper made me aware of it.

After I posted it on the Freepathon Celebration Thread, another freeper freep mailed me to go to the right of the cartoon to see the looks of who may be next! So now when I post it, I add the comment to go to the right of your screen.

It is so appropriate today!

153 posted on 03/09/2002 7:59:52 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: tm61
"DAMN, France isnt on the list."

Late to this thread party , but that's funny!
154 posted on 03/09/2002 8:04:52 AM PST by CaptSkip
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To: kattracks
I am completely mystified as to why this is a big deal or newsworthy in the slightest. You mean to say that American nuclear weapons will be targeted at the enemies of America? No way! Next you'll be telling me that Bill Clinton was a traitorous rapist!

What did we spend all that money on those nukes for if we're not going to use some of them? :)

155 posted on 03/09/2002 8:06:25 AM PST by Jonathon Spectre
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To: doug from upland; all
PEACE THROUGH STRENGTH

This is, of course, a rational statement. Only the dead have seen the end of War--with apologies to Plato and MacArthur. But the list of targets is slightly idiotic. Syria and Libya are not such powers, militarily, that they should appear on so exclusive a list.

In actuality, the history of the world is such that today's allies can easily be tomorrow's enemies. And a wise Nation has contingency plans vis-a-vis every other nation. While I would be as horrified as any of the rest of you, if we ever had to execute such contingency plans, we ought to have developed options with respect to the other nuclear powers. That might possibly include Iran, Iraq and North Korea--all of whom have possible capability to get there without further notice to us. But it should definitely include Britain, France, India, Pakistan and Israel.

And, because this aspect of military policy is so easily grossly misunderstood by the general public; such contingency plans should never, ever, be leaked to anyone! Frankly, this last point is so important, it is very difficult to believe this Los Angeles report is anything other than a contrived propaganda ploy. I suspect that we in fact do have the contingency plans that I suggest we should have; and that such plans are among our most carefully guarded secrets.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

156 posted on 03/09/2002 8:08:32 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: Registered, Miss Marple
You are correct re the briefing. That happened fairly quick post 9/11.

These demonicRat senators who hate America and our military and still think that this is 1960/1970 leaked some of that briefing. All hell broke loose. Each senator was called in for a little correction therapy.

GW used his stealth techniques to trash those leaking scum bags. My bets on those early leaks were on Leaky Leahy and the Chifi b$tch. Of course the Rats can only get on the intel committees as demonicRats only if they hate America and promise to leak classified data to the Compost and LA and NY Slimes and of course CNBCABCNBCCBSCNNCSPAN. They have been doing this since the 1960's.

This so called leak and the Slime magazine fiasco re the fake nuke bomb is classic old CIA techniques to smoke out the bad people acting like they are on your team. The leakers have left a trail of stink right back to their offices in DC.

The only way this leaking will ever stop is when a leak costs a lot of American lives here or in combat. Then, we have to go to the Secrecy Act that the Brits use. You violate their secrecy act, you are pushing up flowers or in jail for the rest of your life.

157 posted on 03/09/2002 8:10:56 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Dan Day
I thought the same as you - this is a strategical leak - meant to put on notice ANY country thinking of doing us harm. I sure do like having a REAL PRESIDENT in office.
158 posted on 03/09/2002 8:14:30 AM PST by goodnesswins
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To: gratefulwharffratt
Congress leaked this....what FOOLS

Bush should trust them WITH NOTHING - NOTHING - NOTHING

159 posted on 03/09/2002 8:16:38 AM PST by Lucas1
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