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To: Southack
I can show you an example in the lab today where speciation is physically occuring and does not depend upon natural selection, yet no Evolutionist would agree that such an example falsifies Darwinism.

Read 212 again. I specified natural speciation. Of course we can force changes now (unnatural speciation), but that doesn't alter the history of life on Earth. There are people now, and there demonstrably weren't people then. You're also welcome to postulate a non-human intelligence as the prehistoric speciation agent, but again, you have to show it at work creating new species.

297 posted on 03/07/2002 7:41:01 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Physicist
"Read 212 again. I specified natural speciation. Of course we can force changes now (unnatural speciation), but that doesn't alter the history of life on Earth."

Of course speciation alters the history of Life on Earth. We've got pigs growing organs for humans now. That's very different from what we had on Earth 1,000 years ago.

The whole point of ID is that speciation is not natural, just as the whole point of the math proof for this thread is that very large amounts of data can not (mathematically) self-form naturally.

I gave you an example of speciation that was NOT natural. Said example was also NOT predicted by Evolutionary Theory.

You are now arguing that because said speciation event was not "natural", that it doesn't count. That's the same as saying that no evidence which ID can produce (since ID holds that speciation events are not natural) will satisfy you.

And that means that Evolutionary Theory is NOT falsifiable (to you).

Non-falsifiable theories are not scientific, by definition.

Congratulations. You've just moved Darwinism into fantasy books alongside Flat-Earthers...

298 posted on 03/07/2002 9:25:20 PM PST by Southack
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