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Journal of Trauma: More U.S. Children Die Where Guns Are Common-Study
yahoo.com ^ | Feb 28, 2002 7:04 PM ET | Christopher Noble

Posted on 03/01/2002 2:51:45 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

BOSTON (Reuters) - Children are much more likely to be murdered, commit suicide or die accidentally because of guns in states and regions with higher levels of household firearm ownership, according to a new study by Harvard researchers.

The study, published in The Journal of Trauma, is significant because it shows that the mere presence of firearms leads to more violent death among children aged 5-14, said Dr. Matthew Miller, the lead author.

"When most people buy a gun, they do so with the presumption that guns make them safer," Miller said in an interview. "Our results suggest strongly that this presumption is not warranted and that the children that parents seek to protect with guns are instead being killed by guns."

While other studies have shown links between teen suicide and guns, this is the first national study to examine the connection between firearm ownership and violent death among younger children, said Miller, associate director of Harvard's Injury Control Research Center.

The study looked at data from all 50 states from 1988 to 1997. In that period, 6,817 children between 5 and 14 years old died from firearms: 3,447 from homicides, 1,782 from accidental shootings and 1,588 from suicide.

The study showed that the five states with the highest gun ownership levels had many more firearm-related deaths among children than the five states with the lowest levels of gun ownership.

The two groups of states had almost the same number of children, but in the high gun-ownership states there were 253 accidental firearm deaths compared to just 15 in the low gun-ownership states.

There were 153 firearm suicides in the high gun-ownership states compared to 22 in the low-ownership states and there were 298 firearm murders in the high gun-ownership states compared to 86 in the low-ownership states.

Meanwhile, the rates of non firearm-related suicides and murders in the two groups of states were much closer, leading Miller to conclude the increase in deaths was attributable to the higher number of firearm-related deaths.

"The large difference in gun-related deaths compared with the low level of difference in non-firearm deaths allows us to say that guns are playing some role," Miller said.

The difference remains even when the data is controlled for poverty, education and urbanization, the study found.

"Although no conclusions about cause and effect can be made, this study provides compelling evidence that states with high firearm availability are states with high childhood firearm death rates," Dr. Therese Richmond of the University of Pennsylvania's Firearm Injury Center wrote in an editorial.

The five states with the highest rates of gun ownership are Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas and West Virginia. The five with the lowest are Hawaii, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New Jersey and Delaware.


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1 posted on 03/01/2002 2:51:45 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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DAMN! I bet you states with the highest number of cars have the highest number of car accidents too! What a concept...
2 posted on 03/01/2002 3:00:55 AM PST by go star go
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I suppose a man could have concluded from the evidence given that the low gunownership states had such an enlightened population that they intervened with the child before gunplay ensued? You feed a kid enough drugs and they just lay around and would not shoot themselves or others. I bet you the study didn't look at such possibilities...
3 posted on 03/01/2002 3:04:12 AM PST by go star go
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
More children are recruited into homosexuality
in areas with high homosexual infestation rates!
4 posted on 03/01/2002 3:07:17 AM PST by Buffalo Bob
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What morons. They should stay away from defining me according to their sick books and mind because I own a gun. Talk about people who pretend to be against vigilantism of the kind seen in Afghanistan. Maybe they should join those muslim crowds and child killers. Seems like they fit the crowd in their definitional and "scientifical" vigilantism.

A 2 cents web site

www.vigilantealert.i8.com

5 posted on 03/01/2002 3:11:28 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
TheMatrix has us
6 posted on 03/01/2002 3:12:42 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: go star go
DAMN! I bet you states with the highest number of cars have the highest number of car accidents too!

But they can tax and regulate cars.

7 posted on 03/01/2002 3:21:14 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: lavaroise
LINK is bad.
8 posted on 03/01/2002 3:23:22 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: lavaroise
What morons.

Bump!

9 posted on 03/01/2002 3:24:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: go star go
What do you want to bet that more children die from misdiagnosis of illness and wrong prescriptions than from gun accidents, murders and suicides combined.
10 posted on 03/01/2002 3:25:12 AM PST by Militiaman7
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Although no conclusions about cause and effect can be made, this study provides compelling evidence that states with high firearm availability are states with high childhood firearm death rates," Dr. Therese Richmond of the University of Pennsylvania's Firearm Injury Center wrote in an editorial.

Doctoress Richmond contradicts herself after mistakenly letting the cat out of the bag.

If one can draw no conclusions, there is no compelling evidence.

What is "is".

11 posted on 03/01/2002 3:25:15 AM PST by metesky
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"What is "is"."........whatever they say it is.
12 posted on 03/01/2002 3:31:04 AM PST by Rustynailww
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To: metesky
DUMB downed to the point that COMMON sense is no longer used. I grew up in a household that had guns, IF I'd have touched my dad's guns I'd got a belt applied to by backside ASAP.

My kids grew up with guns in the house. The same rule applied. Never had problems with them. Used the same rule about them getting into the Med cabinet in the bathroom.

IF you want ammo for countering this garbage the BJS provides a most excellent reason to not only arm yourself but to counter the gun grabbers. In 1991, 45% of the UNREGISTERED, UNLICENSED GOVERNMENT SUPERVISED convicted felons on probation or parole SLAUGHTERED 13,200 men, women and children in the US. That is the population of a small town! Click Here

13 posted on 03/01/2002 3:41:18 AM PST by GailA
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Something just doesn't smell right here, and I don't think it's my computer.....
14 posted on 03/01/2002 3:42:55 AM PST by .45MAN
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Journal of Trauma: More U.S. Children Die Where Guns Are Common-Study

And how many children die where bicycles are common? The number of childhood gun injuries per gun is minuscule compared to the number of childhood injuries per bicycle (or car). And how many assaults against families were halted, resulting in no death or injuries, because of a gun? Failing to report this and concentrating on the other is like reporting, "FOOD KILLS--The Shame of America. Sub-Saharan Africa has a much lower rate of childhood obesity-related diseases than the dangerous U.S.A.. What Are We Doing Wrong?"
15 posted on 03/01/2002 3:43:35 AM PST by aruanan
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To: metesky
What is "is".

An AGENDA!

16 posted on 03/01/2002 3:56:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: aruanan
And how many assaults against families were halted, resulting in no death or injuries, because of a gun?

Conflicting data won't compute in their "study."

17 posted on 03/01/2002 3:58:34 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: go star go
You feed a kid enough drugs and they just lay around and would not shoot themselves or others.

But they say drugs help children focus.

18 posted on 03/01/2002 4:00:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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This is what Thomas Sowell called "bundling" in his book The Vision Of The Anointed. We have three bad things bundled together -- murder, suicide, and accidental death. Murder is unlikely to be the result of owning a firearm; it's much more likely to be the consequence of being targeted by a predator, especially when the victim is a preadolescent child. We also have a sneaky ball-under-the-shirt play: "regions with high firearms ownership." (Legal firearms ownership? And how much greater than the level of firearms ownership of the "low firearms ownership" regions was that in the "high firearms ownership" regions? Did the measure used include illegally owned guns?)

Still more unqualified and unquantified factors remain. At no time are we told whether law enforcement or gang violence played any part in the deaths. At no time are we told about per capita juvenile death rates. At no time are we told about non-firearm-related juvenile deaths for the trial period. And of course, as others have already noted, no attention is paid to net effects: how many lives were saved by private use of firearms.

Just one more day in media hell.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
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19 posted on 03/01/2002 4:12:33 AM PST by fporretto
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"Although no conclusions about cause and effect can be made..."

This is the only part of the article that is worth the pixels it is written on. The rest is mere slight of hand and brainwashing.

20 posted on 03/01/2002 4:21:45 AM PST by GnL
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